Ben Foord's actual cause of suicide

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scorpio83
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Ben Foord's actual cause of suicide

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Hello,

I read from South African Heavyweight Ben Foord's biography that he was wounded from the battle in WW2 that he committed suicide by self-inflicted gunshot wound, which wasn't true. This was how Foord's suicide was caused.

This one was from wikipedia.

"After retiring from boxing, Foord joined the army. While at home on leave, he was playing a practical joke by sneaking up on his wife Phyllis with a pistol and pretending to be a desperado. Foord then attempted gunspinning in the American frontier style and accidentally shot himself in the face, killing himself."

Yep, Foord died from attempting to prank on his wife that went tragically wrong like he similarly played a Russian Roulette.

Could you please change Ben Foord's cause of death to accidental suicide?
Last edited by scorpio83 on 02 May 2025, 16:16, edited 2 times in total.
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Sounds unlikely.
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If the official cause of Ben Foord's death was suicide then why should boxrec change the cause of death because of a wikipedia blog? :doh:
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From Reddit too stated that Foord's prank on his wife and he wanted to act like a cowboy that went tragically wrong that he accidentally shot himself. Also, one of the users commented that Foord should have taken out those bullets to avoid shooting himself. :doh:
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scorpio83 wrote: 01 May 2025, 15:55 From Reddit too stated that Foord's prank on his wife and he wanted to act like a cowboy that went tragically wrong that he accidentally shot himself. Also, one of the users commented that Foord should have taken out those bullets to avoid shooting himself. :doh:
Maybe, but as long as Foord's death certificate states his cause of death was suicide, why should boxrec change it?
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Fray Bentos wrote: 01 May 2025, 21:25
scorpio83 wrote: 01 May 2025, 15:55 From Reddit too stated that Foord's prank on his wife and he wanted to act like a cowboy that went tragically wrong that he accidentally shot himself. Also, one of the users commented that Foord should have taken out those bullets to avoid shooting himself. :doh:
Maybe, but as long as Foord's death certificate states his cause of death was suicide, why should boxrec change it?
My bad Fray, I meant to write I want to ask one of the editors of this website to change Ben Foord's cause of suicide from committed suicide to accidental suicide due to Foord's failed prank on his wife that went wrong tragically that he accidentally shot himself while on leave from the South African army and he was never wounded from the war that wasn't the cause of his suicide, but an accidental suicide. If you get what I meant.
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scorpio83 wrote: 02 May 2025, 16:20
Fray Bentos wrote: 01 May 2025, 21:25
scorpio83 wrote: 01 May 2025, 15:55 From Reddit too stated that Foord's prank on his wife and he wanted to act like a cowboy that went tragically wrong that he accidentally shot himself. Also, one of the users commented that Foord should have taken out those bullets to avoid shooting himself. :doh:
Maybe, but as long as Foord's death certificate states his cause of death was suicide, why should boxrec change it?
My bad Fray, I meant to write I want to ask one of the editors of this website to change Ben Foord's cause of suicide from committed suicide to accidental suicide due to Foord's failed prank on his wife that went wrong tragically that he accidentally shot himself while on leave from the South African army and he was never wounded from the war that wasn't the cause of his suicide, but an accidental suicide. If you get what I meant.
They're not going to do that.
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Fray Bentos wrote: 03 May 2025, 00:21
scorpio83 wrote: 02 May 2025, 16:20
Fray Bentos wrote: 01 May 2025, 21:25 Maybe, but as long as Foord's death certificate states his cause of death was suicide, why should boxrec change it?
My bad Fray, I meant to write I want to ask one of the editors of this website to change Ben Foord's cause of suicide from committed suicide to accidental suicide due to Foord's failed prank on his wife that went wrong tragically that he accidentally shot himself while on leave from the South African army and he was never wounded from the war that wasn't the cause of his suicide, but an accidental suicide. If you get what I meant.
They're not going to do that.
Fray, you are not one of the administrators, so you thought they will not change it in your opinion, but they might change it because they don't want most old school boxing fans to be misled with the false information on the cause of Ben Foord's suicide. It's your opinion, but you don't have that position to say and keep your opinion to yourself. I think you don't understand at all and I'm asking them to try, so they could make this website more credible with the boxers' information and their biographies.
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scorpio83 wrote: 03 May 2025, 08:13
Fray Bentos wrote: 03 May 2025, 00:21
scorpio83 wrote: 02 May 2025, 16:20

My bad Fray, I meant to write I want to ask one of the editors of this website to change Ben Foord's cause of suicide from committed suicide to accidental suicide due to Foord's failed prank on his wife that went wrong tragically that he accidentally shot himself while on leave from the South African army and he was never wounded from the war that wasn't the cause of his suicide, but an accidental suicide. If you get what I meant.
They're not going to do that.
Fray, you are not one of the administrators, so you thought they will not change it in your opinion, but they might change it because they don't want most old school boxing fans to be misled with the false information on the cause of Ben Foord's suicide. It's your opinion, but you don't have that position to say and keep your opinion to yourself. I think you don't understand at all and I'm asking them to try, so they could make this website more credible with the boxers' information and their biographies.
I am an old school boxing fan, been watching it since the 70's - it's not 'false information' because reddit said so. Get the fornicate out of here. :shame:
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Fine, since you don't understand how I explained, then bye. :wave:
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I don't have access to the South African newspapers, but I do have access to the English newspapers. On November 20, 1942, an article by Reuters was picked up stating that an inquest into Foord's death determined that it was "probably accidental". However, 4 days later, the word "suicide" was used in a newspaper.
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Daily Herald and Evening Dispatch were the(English) newspapers I looked at.
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Thanks Goose for researching it out for Ben Foord's cause of suicide and I appreciate it.
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You bet, pal.
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goose 5 wrote: 06 May 2025, 19:39 You bet, pal.
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