Joe Frazier vs Deontay Wilder

[elmersalsa]

Joe Louis and Joe Frazier were knocked down the same amount of times even though Joe Louis had 32 more fights.

So Louis wasn't as tough or as strong as Frazier even though they're roughly the same size, and Louis was knocked down much less frequently.

Rock solid logic on this one elmer.

Also Joe Louis was knocked down, and then went on to win by knockout quite a few times. Joe Frazier never managed to win by knockout in a fight he was knocked down in.

Say what?

Smokin' Joe Frazier was only dropped to the canvas by two men: Oscar Bonavena and George Foreman. Who else dropped Smokin' Joe? Not Two Ton Tony Galento.

Louis was dropped by Two Ton Tony Galento. A guy that was not even a professional boxer for crying out loud. He was short fat guy who carried ice blocks for a living. I can't picture Frazier being dropped by a fighter like that. Do you?

Louis was rocked by 168lbs Billy Conn. Conn almost knocked him out!

Louis was knocked out by Max Schmeling. Schmeling could hit Smokin' Joe's face all he wants. He is not knocking out Frazier.

Louis was thrown out of the ring by Buddy Baer.

Louis was dropped by Jersey Joe Walcott twice.

Rocky Marciano almost put him out of the ring.

Light-hitting Jimmy Braddock of all people, dropped Joe Louis?


And Louis and Frazier's chin should be the same?

How was Tony Galento not a Professional Fighter when he had 110 Professional fights?

All of those guys you mention knocked down Joe Louis, Joe Louis knocked all of those guys out except for Marciano.

Two Ton Tony Galento wasn't a real boxer. He wasn't a professional boxer. His job was carrying ice blocks for a living. He fought only to support his family.

Deontay Wilder is a professional boxer.
Joe Frazier was a professional boxer.

Two Ton Tony Galento?

[gilgamesh]

Say what?

Smokin' Joe Frazier was only dropped to the canvas by two men: Oscar Bonavena and George Foreman. Who else dropped Smokin' Joe? Not Two Ton Tony Galento.

Louis was dropped by Two Ton Tony Galento. A guy that was not even a professional boxer for crying out loud. He was short fat guy who carried ice blocks for a living. I can't picture Frazier being dropped by a fighter like that. Do you?

Louis was rocked by 168lbs Billy Conn. Conn almost knocked him out!

Louis was knocked out by Max Schmeling. Schmeling could hit Smokin' Joe's face all he wants. He is not knocking out Frazier.

Louis was thrown out of the ring by Buddy Baer.

Louis was dropped by Jersey Joe Walcott twice.

Rocky Marciano almost put him out of the ring.

Light-hitting Jimmy Braddock of all people, dropped Joe Louis?


And Louis and Frazier's chin should be the same?

How was Tony Galento not a Professional Fighter when he had 110 Professional fights?

All of those guys you mention knocked down Joe Louis, Joe Louis knocked all of those guys out except for Marciano.

Two Ton Tony Galento wasn't a real boxer. He wasn't a professional boxer. His job was carrying ice blocks for a living. He fought only to support his family.

Deontay Wilder is a professional boxer.
Joe Frazier was a professional boxer.

Two Ton Tony Galento?

Galento has more Professional fights on his record than Joe Frazier and Deontay Wilder combined. Twice as many wins as both of them combined actually.

"He did it just to support his family"

Everybody does everything to support their family dipshit

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Joe Louis and Joe Frazier were knocked down the same amount of times even though Joe Louis had 32 more fights.

So Louis wasn't as tough or as strong as Frazier even though they're roughly the same size, and Louis was knocked down much less frequently.

Rock solid logic on this one elmer.

Also Joe Louis was knocked down, and then went on to win by knockout quite a few times. Joe Frazier never managed to win by knockout in a fight he was knocked down in.

Say what?

Smokin' Joe Frazier was only dropped to the canvas by two men: Oscar Bonavena and George Foreman. Who else dropped Smokin' Joe? Not Two Ton Tony Galento.

Louis was dropped by Two Ton Tony Galento. A guy that was not even a professional boxer for crying out loud. He was short fat guy who carried ice blocks for a living. I can't picture Frazier being dropped by a fighter like that. Do you?

Louis was rocked by 168lbs Billy Conn. Conn almost knocked him out!

Louis was knocked out by Max Schmeling. Schmeling could hit Smokin' Joe's face all he wants. He is not knocking out Frazier.

Louis was thrown out of the ring by Buddy Baer.

Louis was dropped by Jersey Joe Walcott twice.

Rocky Marciano almost put him out of the ring.

Light-hitting Jimmy Braddock of all people, dropped Joe Louis?


And Louis and Frazier's chin should be the same?

The bizarre thing about you elmer, is you're constantly bringing up Louis being knocked down and adding lots of laughing and eye rolling emojis, while belittling him at every opportunity.... but, you still rate him as the second best heavyweight ever. I can't wait for your explanation.

[gilgamesh]

Pointing out times that a fighter got knocked down in fights he won as a major detriment on his career makes about as much sense as

"Did you see the time the Chicago Bulls won that game, but Jordan missed those 2 free throws? "

It's a shame Joe Louis couldn't have been the flawless, technically gifted Boxing mastermind that Deontay Wilder was.

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How was Tony Galento not a Professional Fighter when he had 110 Professional fights?

All of those guys you mention knocked down Joe Louis, Joe Louis knocked all of those guys out except for Marciano.

Two Ton Tony Galento wasn't a real boxer. He wasn't a professional boxer. His job was carrying ice blocks for a living. He fought only to support his family.

Deontay Wilder is a professional boxer.
Joe Frazier was a professional boxer.

Two Ton Tony Galento?

Galento has more Professional fights on his record than Joe Frazier and Deontay Wilder combined. Twice as many wins as both of them combined actually.

"He did it just to support his family"

Everybody does everything to support their family dipshit

Two Ton Tony Galento wasn't a real heavyweight boxer. His trade and profession was carrying ice blocks for a living. I doubt if he had an amateur career.

In those days you fought very often. You didn't get six or seven figure payday fights like today or in Smokin' Joe's time.

[elmersalsa]

Pointing out times that a fighter got knocked down in fights he won as a major detriment on his career makes about as much sense as

"Did you see the time the Chicago Bulls won that game, but Jordan missed those 2 free throws? "

It's a shame Joe Louis couldn't have been the flawless, technically gifted Boxing mastermind that Deontay Wilder was.

I have never said that Deontay Wilder was more technical than the great Joe Louis.

I have said that I don't trust Louis' chin. Wilder would be too big and too strong for him.

[gilgamesh]

Two Ton Tony Galento wasn't a real boxer. He wasn't a professional boxer. His job was carrying ice blocks for a living. He fought only to support his family.

Deontay Wilder is a professional boxer.
Joe Frazier was a professional boxer.

Two Ton Tony Galento?

Galento has more Professional fights on his record than Joe Frazier and Deontay Wilder combined. Twice as many wins as both of them combined actually.

"He did it just to support his family"

Everybody does everything to support their family dipshit

Two Ton Tony Galento wasn't a real heavyweight boxer. His trade and profession was carrying ice blocks for a living. I doubt if he had an amateur career.

In those days you fought very often. You didn't get six or seven figure payday fights like today or in Smokin' Joe's time.

Saying someone wasn't a real fighter when they fought over 100 times. Makes as much sense as saying The Rain isn't Wet. Of all the stupid takes you've had in this thread. This is the stupidest.

[gilgamesh]

Pointing out times that a fighter got knocked down in fights he won as a major detriment on his career makes about as much sense as

"Did you see the time the Chicago Bulls won that game, but Jordan missed those 2 free throws? "

It's a shame Joe Louis couldn't have been the flawless, technically gifted Boxing mastermind that Deontay Wilder was.

I have never said that Deontay Wilder was more technical than the great Joe Louis.

I have said that I don't trust Louis' chin. Wilder would be too big and too strong for him.

I don't trust Wilder's chin or ability, and I don't think any strength advantage he'd have would be particularly significant.

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Two Ton Tony Galento wasn't a real boxer. He wasn't a professional boxer. His job was carrying ice blocks for a living. He fought only to support his family.

Deontay Wilder is a professional boxer.
Joe Frazier was a professional boxer.

Two Ton Tony Galento?

Galento has more Professional fights on his record than Joe Frazier and Deontay Wilder combined. Twice as many wins as both of them combined actually.

"He did it just to support his family"

Everybody does everything to support their family dipshit

Two Ton Tony Galento wasn't a real heavyweight boxer. His trade and profession was carrying ice blocks for a living. I doubt if he had an amateur career.

In those days you fought very often. You didn't get six or seven figure payday fights like today or in Smokin' Joe's time.

I think you'll find he was. I mean, he had over 100 professional fights before he fought Joe Louis.

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How would Mike Mcallum fare?

[keithmoonhangover]

Joe Louis and Joe Frazier were knocked down the same amount of times even though Joe Louis had 32 more fights.

So Louis wasn't as tough or as strong as Frazier even though they're roughly the same size, and Louis was knocked down much less frequently.

Rock solid logic on this one elmer.

Also Joe Louis was knocked down, and then went on to win by knockout quite a few times. Joe Frazier never managed to win by knockout in a fight he was knocked down in.

Say what?

Smokin' Joe Frazier was only dropped to the canvas by two men: Oscar Bonavena and George Foreman. Who else dropped Smokin' Joe? Not Two Ton Tony Galento.

Louis was dropped by Two Ton Tony Galento. A guy that was not even a professional boxer for crying out loud. He was short fat guy who carried ice blocks for a living. I can't picture Frazier being dropped by a fighter like that. Do you?

Louis was rocked by 168lbs Billy Conn. Conn almost knocked him out!

Louis was knocked out by Max Schmeling. Schmeling could hit Smokin' Joe's face all he wants. He is not knocking out Frazier.

Louis was thrown out of the ring by Buddy Baer.

Louis was dropped by Jersey Joe Walcott twice.

Rocky Marciano almost put him out of the ring.

Light-hitting Jimmy Braddock of all people, dropped Joe Louis?


And Louis and Frazier's chin should be the same?

The bizarre thing about you elmer, is you're constantly bringing up Louis being knocked down and adding lots of laughing and eye rolling emojis, while belittling him at every opportunity.... but, you still rate him as the second best heavyweight ever. I can't wait for your explanation.

Well?

[elmersalsa]

Galento has more Professional fights on his record than Joe Frazier and Deontay Wilder combined. Twice as many wins as both of them combined actually.

"He did it just to support his family"

Everybody does everything to support their family dipshit

Two Ton Tony Galento wasn't a real heavyweight boxer. His trade and profession was carrying ice blocks for a living. I doubt if he had an amateur career.

In those days you fought very often. You didn't get six or seven figure payday fights like today or in Smokin' Joe's time.

Saying someone wasn't a real fighter when they fought over 100 times. Makes as much sense as saying The Rain isn't Wet. Of all the stupid takes you've had in this thread. This is the stupidest.

Now, is the stupidest! Guess what. It is more stupid for you to think about a guy that is heavier by just measuring of the eye to lose against someone that barely made 200lbs in his prime. That is stupid on your part! How about that, wise guy?

[elmersalsa]

Say what?

Smokin' Joe Frazier was only dropped to the canvas by two men: Oscar Bonavena and George Foreman. Who else dropped Smokin' Joe? Not Two Ton Tony Galento.

Louis was dropped by Two Ton Tony Galento. A guy that was not even a professional boxer for crying out loud. He was short fat guy who carried ice blocks for a living. I can't picture Frazier being dropped by a fighter like that. Do you?

Louis was rocked by 168lbs Billy Conn. Conn almost knocked him out!

Louis was knocked out by Max Schmeling. Schmeling could hit Smokin' Joe's face all he wants. He is not knocking out Frazier.

Louis was thrown out of the ring by Buddy Baer.

Louis was dropped by Jersey Joe Walcott twice.

Rocky Marciano almost put him out of the ring.

Light-hitting Jimmy Braddock of all people, dropped Joe Louis?


And Louis and Frazier's chin should be the same?

The bizarre thing about you elmer, is you're constantly bringing up Louis being knocked down and adding lots of laughing and eye rolling emojis, while belittling him at every opportunity.... but, you still rate him as the second best heavyweight ever. I can't wait for your explanation.

Well?

Joe Louis is the second best heavyweight. He had the credentials. He beat some skilled boxers like Billy Conn, Jersey Joe Walcott and John Henry Lewis and avenged his defeat against Max Schmeling in one of the most anticipated fights in boxing history. He avenged it by knockout!

He had 25 title defenses. Some against Bums of the Month guys. Every champion has at least some dull opponents. Not all his challengers were bums. Not all his challengers were great, either.

He held the title for almost 12 years. He had WWII interruption. Maybe he would have had more than 25 title defenses. Maybe not. But, what he did was impressive and he had great historical impact as a boxer.

But, to match him with these giants of today, you guys are UNREALISTIC. The other idiots want to belittle me that I make stupid remarks. I don't see them that way. None of them that accuse my remarks are smarter than me.

They already lost the argument. So, when they come with their stupid Internet warriors game, about someone else saying "stupid things" like they say I do say, I believe the opposite. They are as dumbfounded and stupid because they don't accept reality.


These guys today, average 260lbs in weight, and are averaging about 6'6" in height. They are stronger, bigger, professional boxers that fight for a living and are in better condition and shape, according "to their science"

Nobody got to agree with me. Just look at the tapes.

A guy that probably never passed 200lbs in his prime, that barely makes it to 200lbs with no chin could never beat today's talented heavyweight boxers. Even though their are not met to our standards, I can't see Joe Louis, as great as he was dominating this era. Not with those primitive skills. Not with that type of nutrition. Not with that method of training.

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Wow. that was bad. I mean really bad.

[gilgamesh]

Two Ton Tony Galento wasn't a real heavyweight boxer. His trade and profession was carrying ice blocks for a living. I doubt if he had an amateur career.

In those days you fought very often. You didn't get six or seven figure payday fights like today or in Smokin' Joe's time.

Saying someone wasn't a real fighter when they fought over 100 times. Makes as much sense as saying The Rain isn't Wet. Of all the stupid takes you've had in this thread. This is the stupidest.

Now, is the stupidest! Guess what. It is more stupid for you to think about a guy that is heavier by just measuring of the eye to lose against someone that barely made 200lbs in his prime. That is stupid on your part! How about that, wise guy?

You're on an Island by yourself on this one.

[gilgamesh]

The bizarre thing about you elmer, is you're constantly bringing up Louis being knocked down and adding lots of laughing and eye rolling emojis, while belittling him at every opportunity.... but, you still rate him as the second best heavyweight ever. I can't wait for your explanation.

Well?

Joe Louis is the second best heavyweight. He had the credentials. He beat some skilled boxers like Billy Conn, Jersey Joe Walcott and John Henry Lewis and avenged his defeat against Max Schmeling in one of the most anticipated fights in boxing history. He avenged it by knockout!

He had 25 title defenses. Some against Bums of the Month guys. Every champion has at least some dull opponents. Not all his challengers were bums. Not all his challengers were great, either.

He held the title for almost 12 years. He had WWII interruption. Maybe he would have had more than 25 title defenses. Maybe not. But, what he did was impressive and he had great historical impact as a boxer.

But, to match him with these giants of today, you guys are UNREALISTIC. The other idiots want to belittle me that I make stupid remarks. I don't see them that way. None of them that accuse my remarks are smarter than me.

They already lost the argument. So, when they come with their stupid Internet warriors game, about someone else saying "stupid things" like they say I do say, I believe the opposite. They are as dumbfounded and stupid because they don't accept reality.


These guys today, average 260lbs in weight, and are averaging about 6'6" in height. They are stronger, bigger, professional boxers that fight for a living and are in better condition and shape, according "to their science"

Nobody got to agree with me. Just look at the tapes.

A guy that probably never passed 200lbs in his prime, that barely makes it to 200lbs with no chin could never beat today's talented heavyweight boxers. Even though their are not met to our standards, I can't see Joe Louis, as great as he was dominating this era. Not with those primitive skills. Not with that type of nutrition. Not with that method of training.

You'd think you'd get tired of saying statements that can be definitively proven wrong using the very website you're posting them on.

Louis weighed over 200 pounds for 17 of his Championship fights. He was over 205 pounds for all of his fights after 1942. That's more than half of his title reign in which he was bigger than you claim he ever was

5 of his Title challengers weighed more than Deontay Wilder weighed throughout most of his fights. He won by KO in all of those fights.

[elmersalsa]

Well?

Joe Louis is the second best heavyweight. He had the credentials. He beat some skilled boxers like Billy Conn, Jersey Joe Walcott and John Henry Lewis and avenged his defeat against Max Schmeling in one of the most anticipated fights in boxing history. He avenged it by knockout!

He had 25 title defenses. Some against Bums of the Month guys. Every champion has at least some dull opponents. Not all his challengers were bums. Not all his challengers were great, either.

He held the title for almost 12 years. He had WWII interruption. Maybe he would have had more than 25 title defenses. Maybe not. But, what he did was impressive and he had great historical impact as a boxer.

But, to match him with these giants of today, you guys are UNREALISTIC. The other idiots want to belittle me that I make stupid remarks. I don't see them that way. None of them that accuse my remarks are smarter than me.

They already lost the argument. So, when they come with their stupid Internet warriors game, about someone else saying "stupid things" like they say I do say, I believe the opposite. They are as dumbfounded and stupid because they don't accept reality.


These guys today, average 260lbs in weight, and are averaging about 6'6" in height. They are stronger, bigger, professional boxers that fight for a living and are in better condition and shape, according "to their science"

Nobody got to agree with me. Just look at the tapes.

A guy that probably never passed 200lbs in his prime, that barely makes it to 200lbs with no chin could never beat today's talented heavyweight boxers. Even though their are not met to our standards, I can't see Joe Louis, as great as he was dominating this era. Not with those primitive skills. Not with that type of nutrition. Not with that method of training.

You'd think you'd get tired of saying statements that can be definitively proven wrong using the very website you're posting them on.

Louis weighed over 200 pounds for 17 of his Championship fights. He was over 205 pounds for all of his fights after 1942. That's more than half of his title reign in which he was bigger than you claim he ever was

5 of his Title challengers weighed more than Deontay Wilder weighed throughout most of his fights. He won by KO in all of those fights.

There you go. He barely made 200lbs. Before his title reign by the late 1930s, Louis was at his very best. His prime was from 1936-42. After 1942, he started gaining much more weight. Still not enough weight to compete in today's heavyweight scene.

Add his shaky chin, and Louis would be flying out of the ring by an Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder's punch. Too small. Too chinny. Not a good matchup with these giants.

[gilgamesh]

For Deontay Wilder's biggest win. Which was Luis Ortiz.

He weighed in at a whopping 214 pounds.

So he had all of 10 pounds over Joe Louis on his best day....Sweet Lord. How could Joe ever possibly hope to compete with such a gigantic, behemoth and Mountain of a Man.

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For Deontay Wilder's biggest win. Which was Luis Ortiz.

He weighed in at a whopping 214 pounds.

So he had all of 10 pounds over Joe Louis on his best day....Sweet Lord. How could Joe ever possibly hope to compete with such a gigantic, behemoth and Mountain of a Man.

You cannot see the difference between them? Do you need glasses or something? For crying out loud. Do you believe that Deontay Wilder is the same physical size as Joe Louis?

I would fight Joe Louis. He is around my range in weight and height. I would not fight Deontay Wilder even if you pay me $100 million. Maybe I would take a dive or think about it.

[gilgamesh]

For Deontay Wilder's biggest win. Which was Luis Ortiz.

He weighed in at a whopping 214 pounds.

So he had all of 10 pounds over Joe Louis on his best day....Sweet Lord. How could Joe ever possibly hope to compete with such a gigantic, behemoth and Mountain of a Man.

You cannot see the difference between them? Do you need glasses or something? For crying out loud. Do you believe that Deontay Wilder is the same physical size as Joe Louis?

I would fight Joe Louis. He is around my range in weight and height. I would not fight Deontay Wilder even if you pay me $100 million. Maybe I would take a dive or think about it.

No Wilder is not the same size as Joe Louis. He's bigger.

Joe Louis is a better fighter than him in every way, shape and form.

You cannot see that? Are you blind? Do you need glasses or something?

Forget their records. Watch them both fight. Just watch them. If you don't see which one of them is the better fighter. Then congratulations, on talking a lot about the sport of Boxing, but never understanding what it is you're seeing.

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Maybe Deontay Wilder was not the great George Foreman. He is bigger and taller and hit as hard as Big George, but for some reason, he doesn't beat the great Smokin' Joe Frazier?

I don't think that Wilder beats the Frazier that magnificently kicked Muhammad Ali's azz in the Fight of the Century in March 1971.

Wilder does not hit as hard as Foreman.

Wilder is great at knocking out bums; what he never did is KO a world class or HOF type opponent the way Foreman did.

[elmersalsa]

For Deontay Wilder's biggest win. Which was Luis Ortiz.

He weighed in at a whopping 214 pounds.

So he had all of 10 pounds over Joe Louis on his best day....Sweet Lord. How could Joe ever possibly hope to compete with such a gigantic, behemoth and Mountain of a Man.

You cannot see the difference between them? Do you need glasses or something? For crying out loud. Do you believe that Deontay Wilder is the same physical size as Joe Louis?

I would fight Joe Louis. He is around my range in weight and height. I would not fight Deontay Wilder even if you pay me $100 million. Maybe I would take a dive or think about it.

No Wilder is not the same size as Joe Louis. He's bigger.

Joe Louis is a better fighter than him in every way, shape and form.

You cannot see that? Are you blind? Do you need glasses or something?

Forget their records. Watch them both fight. Just watch them. If you don't see which one of them is the better fighter. Then congratulations, on talking a lot about the sport of Boxing, but never understanding what it is you're seeing.

Joe Louis as great as he was, even with his primitive skills, ain't beating someone as big as Deontay Wilder. The guy Wilder was at least way better than the stiffs like Primo Carnera, Abe Simon, Buddy Baer and Two Ton Tony Galento.

Put those guys in the ring with Wilder, and he knocks them out, one by one.

Wilder would beat Louis not because he is way more skilled. He beats Louis because he would be too big and strong. I would be thinking five times to fight a guy of Wilder's size.

[elmersalsa]

Maybe Deontay Wilder was not the great George Foreman. He is bigger and taller and hit as hard as Big George, but for some reason, he doesn't beat the great Smokin' Joe Frazier?

I don't think that Wilder beats the Frazier that magnificently kicked Muhammad Ali's azz in the Fight of the Century in March 1971.

Wilder does not hit as hard as Foreman.

Wilder is great at knocking out bums; what he never did is KO a world class or HOF type opponent the way Foreman did.

Well, I guess the great Joe Louis would have been a bum today with those primitive skills of more than 80 years ago, then.

[gilgamesh]

You cannot see the difference between them? Do you need glasses or something? For crying out loud. Do you believe that Deontay Wilder is the same physical size as Joe Louis?

I would fight Joe Louis. He is around my range in weight and height. I would not fight Deontay Wilder even if you pay me $100 million. Maybe I would take a dive or think about it.

No Wilder is not the same size as Joe Louis. He's bigger.

Joe Louis is a better fighter than him in every way, shape and form.

You cannot see that? Are you blind? Do you need glasses or something?

Forget their records. Watch them both fight. Just watch them. If you don't see which one of them is the better fighter. Then congratulations, on talking a lot about the sport of Boxing, but never understanding what it is you're seeing.

Joe Louis as great as he was, even with his primitive skills, ain't beating someone as big as Deontay Wilder. The guy Wilder was at least way better than the stiffs like Primo Carnera, Abe Simon, Buddy Baer and Two Ton Tony Galento.

Put those guys in the ring with Wilder, and he knocks them out, one by one.

Wilder would beat Louis not because he is way more skilled. He beats Louis because he would be too big and strong. I would be thinking five times to fight a guy of Wilder's size.

By continuously referring to Joe Louis as having Primitive skills you prove yourself to be a complete idiot. You speak as if Wilder is more skilled than Joe Louis. A blind man can see that isn't the case.

If Wilder isn't more skilled than Joe Louis then why aren't Wilder's skills "primitive"

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You cannot see the difference between them? Do you need glasses or something? For crying out loud. Do you believe that Deontay Wilder is the same physical size as Joe Louis?

I would fight Joe Louis. He is around my range in weight and height. I would not fight Deontay Wilder even if you pay me $100 million. Maybe I would take a dive or think about it.

No Wilder is not the same size as Joe Louis. He's bigger.

Joe Louis is a better fighter than him in every way, shape and form.

You cannot see that? Are you blind? Do you need glasses or something?

Forget their records. Watch them both fight. Just watch them. If you don't see which one of them is the better fighter. Then congratulations, on talking a lot about the sport of Boxing, but never understanding what it is you're seeing.

Joe Louis as great as he was, even with his primitive skills, ain't beating someone as big as Deontay Wilder. The guy Wilder was at least way better than the stiffs like Primo Carnera, Abe Simon, Buddy Baer and Two Ton Tony Galento.

Put those guys in the ring with Wilder, and he knocks them out, one by one.

Wilder would beat Louis not because he is way more skilled. He beats Louis because he would be too big and strong. I would be thinking five times to fight a guy of Wilder's size.

Wilder isn't big, he's just a lanky beanpole.

He only weighs in the 210s at his best and he is the one with the primitive skills, not Joe Louis.