i understand the intent, but equating JP with TS and ES is demented. ES and TS at least demonstrate human qualities and although I'm not a fan of their music, it's not shit or despicable. catchy, poppy, innocuous, yes. The Pauls, however, are ghouls.NazNaci1 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025, 07:00He is making a deeper point.golden_labrador wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025, 13:52equating Jake Paul to Taylor Swift and Ed Sheeran is dementedThomastearns wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025, 12:39
You can bet there's plenty more from where thst came from.
Good for Jr. Drugs and whores and the follow up rehab sessions don't come cheap anywhere these days.
This is the age of many things but especially the age of clever marketing.
People walking around with constant noise in their heads will happily pay money for an hour or two's respite.
Faylor Swift, Ded Sheeran or Fake Paul etc etc. It doesn't really matter what or how when you're in some kind of unrecognisable existential pain.
This is truly the age of marketing.
From cradle to grave.
Competition between individuals or teams is either an amateur sport in essence, done for pride, self-fulfulment or for the pure joy of taking part - or else it's a business.
It can rarely be both.
Thankfully we have the likes of noble Tyson Fury who are prepared to fight for free.
At least that's what he keeps telling us.
The point he is making is look at the fandom and adulation, given how sh*t the product is, which is applicable to all 3, imo.
All 3 are utter tripe. Look at what came before and look at what these numbskulls now worship.
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Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
Maybe Trump is a better comparison. Like Paul, not really skilled but a great marketer who has a cult following of shallow peoplegolden_labrador wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025, 07:28i understand the intent, but equating JP with TS and ES is demented. ES and TS at least demonstrate human qualities and although I'm not a fan of their music, it's not shit or despicable. catchy, poppy, innocuous, yes. The Pauls, however, are ghouls.NazNaci1 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025, 07:00He is making a deeper point.golden_labrador wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025, 13:52
equating Jake Paul to Taylor Swift and Ed Sheeran is demented
The point he is making is look at the fandom and adulation, given how sh*t the product is, which is applicable to all 3, imo.
All 3 are utter tripe. Look at what came before and look at what these numbskulls now worship.
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Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
hell of a work rate jc set there, that's what, 10 punches averaged a round over the first 7 ?
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Would you guys be happy if he fought a young, active journeyman instead of JCC Jr.?chinarich wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025, 01:49 No matter how many of these contrived fights that Jake Paul wins he can’t erase the fact that the only time he has faced a current and active boxer he lost. To be fair he has probably improved a bit since then but with these glorified sparring sessions created to make him look good we’ll never know for sure…
Look at who Crawford fought at the same stage in his career, yet nobody talks about that.
In comparison, Jake Paul has only a couple of years of boxing experience, yet he’s fighting the same level of opponents that many great boxers faced early on, even with their deep amateur backgrounds.
Nico Ali Walsh has the same number of professional fights as Jake Paul, and I bet you he would’ve been praised if he fought JCC Jr. instead.
I don’t care about the Paul brothers, but some of you let your hate boner cloud your judgment.
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It's a joke
Fight was terrible
This is making boxing look bad and cheap
Fight was terrible
This is making boxing look bad and cheap
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It isn’t about the opponent, these fights are theatre…Sendo Takeshi wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 01:03Would you guys be happy if he fought a young, active journeyman instead of JCC Jr.?chinarich wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025, 01:49 No matter how many of these contrived fights that Jake Paul wins he can’t erase the fact that the only time he has faced a current and active boxer he lost. To be fair he has probably improved a bit since then but with these glorified sparring sessions created to make him look good we’ll never know for sure…
Look at who Crawford fought at the same stage in his career, yet nobody talks about that.
In comparison, Jake Paul has only a couple of years of boxing experience, yet he’s fighting the same level of opponents that many great boxers faced early on, even with their deep amateur backgrounds.
Nico Ali Walsh has the same number of professional fights as Jake Paul, and I bet you he would’ve been praised if he fought JCC Jr. instead.
I don’t care about the Paul brothers, but some of you let your hate boner cloud your judgment.
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Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
How so? Because they're more successful and get more attention than other fights at the same level?"chinarich wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 01:58It isn’t about the opponent, these fights are theatre…Sendo Takeshi wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 01:03Would you guys be happy if he fought a young, active journeyman instead of JCC Jr.?chinarich wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025, 01:49 No matter how many of these contrived fights that Jake Paul wins he can’t erase the fact that the only time he has faced a current and active boxer he lost. To be fair he has probably improved a bit since then but with these glorified sparring sessions created to make him look good we’ll never know for sure…
Look at who Crawford fought at the same stage in his career, yet nobody talks about that.
In comparison, Jake Paul has only a couple of years of boxing experience, yet he’s fighting the same level of opponents that many great boxers faced early on, even with their deep amateur backgrounds.
Nico Ali Walsh has the same number of professional fights as Jake Paul, and I bet you he would’ve been praised if he fought JCC Jr. instead.
I don’t care about the Paul brothers, but some of you let your hate boner cloud your judgment.
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Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr says early inactivity vs. Jake Paul was a strategy
“No excuses,” Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr told Fight Hub TV after his puzzlingly inactive losing performance to Jake Paul.
Unfortunately for Chavez, the boxing world is – for once – looking for an excuse to explain his performance.
Chavez’s showing on Saturday baffled everybody from media members to Reddit users. He threw just 14 punches in the first three rounds, 10 of which were jabs, and only three of which landed. He was scarcely more active in the middle rounds. Only in the final three rounds did Chavez throw enough punches to make a fight of it.
According to Chavez, his low output wasn’t due to fear of Paul’s power, which he described as “decent.” It wasn’t even due to ring rust, though he said he wants to fight on.
It was a tactic.
“I think the strategy is good, like make him tired first three, four rounds, then come back strong,” Chavez told Fight Hub TV. “But I think in the process, [rounds] four, five, six, I lost the fight, because I think I won the last three, four rounds…I need to throw more punches.”
Simply not throwing punches in an attempt to tire out the opponent is a less canonical boxing strategy than, say, trying to hit the opponent in the body (like one Julio Cesar Chavez Snr would do). By the time Chavez Jnr began to let his hands go, he’d ceded too many rounds to recover.
Chavez speculated that inactivity might have impacted his performance, as well as his misguided gameplan. “Maybe more fights, a little more confidence, I need it,” he said.
This is easier to understand; Chavez’s fight with Paul was just his second since the end of 2021, the other being a six-rounder against Uriah Hall, who was taking part in just his second professional fight.
Still, given that Chavez is 39 years old and looked as lost in the ring as he ever has on Saturday, another fight may be the last thing he needs.
“No excuses,” Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr told Fight Hub TV after his puzzlingly inactive losing performance to Jake Paul.
Unfortunately for Chavez, the boxing world is – for once – looking for an excuse to explain his performance.
Chavez’s showing on Saturday baffled everybody from media members to Reddit users. He threw just 14 punches in the first three rounds, 10 of which were jabs, and only three of which landed. He was scarcely more active in the middle rounds. Only in the final three rounds did Chavez throw enough punches to make a fight of it.
According to Chavez, his low output wasn’t due to fear of Paul’s power, which he described as “decent.” It wasn’t even due to ring rust, though he said he wants to fight on.
It was a tactic.
“I think the strategy is good, like make him tired first three, four rounds, then come back strong,” Chavez told Fight Hub TV. “But I think in the process, [rounds] four, five, six, I lost the fight, because I think I won the last three, four rounds…I need to throw more punches.”
Simply not throwing punches in an attempt to tire out the opponent is a less canonical boxing strategy than, say, trying to hit the opponent in the body (like one Julio Cesar Chavez Snr would do). By the time Chavez Jnr began to let his hands go, he’d ceded too many rounds to recover.
Chavez speculated that inactivity might have impacted his performance, as well as his misguided gameplan. “Maybe more fights, a little more confidence, I need it,” he said.
This is easier to understand; Chavez’s fight with Paul was just his second since the end of 2021, the other being a six-rounder against Uriah Hall, who was taking part in just his second professional fight.
Still, given that Chavez is 39 years old and looked as lost in the ring as he ever has on Saturday, another fight may be the last thing he needs.
Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
He fought a 58-year-old who hadn’t boxed in 20 years and was 35 years past his prime, followed by a recovering (?) pot head and known slackerSendo Takeshi wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 02:45How so? Because they're more successful and get more attention than other fights at the same level?"chinarich wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 01:58It isn’t about the opponent, these fights are theatre…Sendo Takeshi wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 01:03
Would you guys be happy if he fought a young, active journeyman instead of JCC Jr.?
Look at who Crawford fought at the same stage in his career, yet nobody talks about that.
In comparison, Jake Paul has only a couple of years of boxing experience, yet he’s fighting the same level of opponents that many great boxers faced early on, even with their deep amateur backgrounds.
Nico Ali Walsh has the same number of professional fights as Jake Paul, and I bet you he would’ve been praised if he fought JCC Jr. instead.
I don’t care about the Paul brothers, but some of you let your hate boner cloud your judgment.
who hadn’t won a meaningful fight in more than a decade AND was fighting 40 lbs over his championship weight. I don’t think any full-time boxer would be getting high praise for taking on those two at any point in their career. Paul is brilliant at marketing himself to non-boxing fans and those who are influenced by “influencers.” He is authentically American, like Trumpy
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I can't decide whether you are being deliberately obtuse or if you don't understand the words I have written...Sendo Takeshi wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 02:45How so? Because they're more successful and get more attention than other fights at the same level?"chinarich wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 01:58It isn’t about the opponent, these fights are theatre…Sendo Takeshi wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 01:03
Would you guys be happy if he fought a young, active journeyman instead of JCC Jr.?
Look at who Crawford fought at the same stage in his career, yet nobody talks about that.
In comparison, Jake Paul has only a couple of years of boxing experience, yet he’s fighting the same level of opponents that many great boxers faced early on, even with their deep amateur backgrounds.
Nico Ali Walsh has the same number of professional fights as Jake Paul, and I bet you he would’ve been praised if he fought JCC Jr. instead.
I don’t care about the Paul brothers, but some of you let your hate boner cloud your judgment.
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Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
As predicted.
WBA have installed Paul at #14 in their ranking.
He’s beaten Mike Perry, Tyson and Chavez jr.
And they ranked him so he can now fight for a world title.
They’ll offer him an interim or regular belt no doubt.
WBA have installed Paul at #14 in their ranking.
He’s beaten Mike Perry, Tyson and Chavez jr.
And they ranked him so he can now fight for a world title.
They’ll offer him an interim or regular belt no doubt.
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Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
Jake Paul being ranked is bad… but it is not degrees worse than some of the worst rankings we have seen….Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 06:02 As predicted.
WBA have installed Paul at #14 in their ranking.
He’s beaten Mike Perry, Tyson and Chavez jr.
And they ranked him so he can now fight for a world title.
They’ll offer him an interim or regular belt no doubt.
Demori found his way into the rankings to figyte hrg. I feel over the last decade I have seen 20 or 30 people not near the top 100 get top 15 rankings.
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Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
whilst fighters like Demori and that guy who was mates with David Haye get found out eventually, it's not hard to believe that Jake Paul's money might grease him further along, until he lands in the ring with a Canelo who doesn't need the money and takes pride in his boxing.gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 06:29Jake Paul being ranked is bad… but it is not degrees worse than some of the worst rankings we have seen….Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 06:02 As predicted.
WBA have installed Paul at #14 in their ranking.
He’s beaten Mike Perry, Tyson and Chavez jr.
And they ranked him so he can now fight for a world title.
They’ll offer him an interim or regular belt no doubt.
Demori found his way into the rankings to figyte hrg. I feel over the last decade I have seen 20 or 30 people not near the top 100 get top 15 rankings.
Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
They’ll feed him a cupcake or an old, inactive fighter for a newly vacant belt. The WBA knows a money grab when they see one. Firat Arslan Is 54, but he may be too active and therefore “dangerous” for Paul. Maybe one of Jai’s former opponents will get another shotRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 06:02 As predicted.
WBA have installed Paul at #14 in their ranking.
He’s beaten Mike Perry, Tyson and Chavez jr.
And they ranked him so he can now fight for a world title.
They’ll offer him an interim or regular belt no doubt.
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Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
I understand you just fine. I just don’t agree with whatever nonsense you’re trying to push.
Like I said, a washed-up JCC Jr. isn’t a worse fight than some random journeyman a boxer would typically face at this stage of their career.
Look up who Crawford fought in his first 15 fights and really think about what you said.
I hope I made it simple enough this time.
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Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
Must be the first time in history a former champion landed zero punches in a roundmargaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025, 13:38hell of a work rate jc set there, that's what, 10 punches averaged a round over the first 7 ?
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Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
Paul isnt terrible. Boxrec has him as the 69 best cw and thats probably accurate.
Ranking orgs see $ and can get a percentage of his giant purse; thats boxing and why its in such a shit spot. Boxing is a laughingstock of a sport sans the saudi prince who can afford to lose billions on it (its why his fights have had good scoring and matchmaking - he has no profit requirements).
Ranking orgs see $ and can get a percentage of his giant purse; thats boxing and why its in such a shit spot. Boxing is a laughingstock of a sport sans the saudi prince who can afford to lose billions on it (its why his fights have had good scoring and matchmaking - he has no profit requirements).
Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
Also, 14 punches thrown and three landed in the first nine minutes of a fight is pretty impressive inactivity. Seems like you'd almost have to work at being inactive to be that inactive. He must have smoked a few blunts before entering the ring.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 09:19Must be the first time in history a former champion landed zero punches in a roundmargaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025, 13:38hell of a work rate jc set there, that's what, 10 punches averaged a round over the first 7 ?
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Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
Apparently Jake now ranked 14th in the world by the WBA following this win
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Controversial wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 10:02 Apparently Jake now ranked 14th in the world by the WBA following this win
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Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
pretty sure Crawford didn't fight any 58-year-olds or lose to a Love Island starSendo Takeshi wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 08:58I understand you just fine. I just don’t agree with whatever nonsense you’re trying to push.
Like I said, a washed-up JCC Jr. isn’t a worse fight than some random journeyman a boxer would typically face at this stage of their career.
Look up who Crawford fought in his first 15 fights and really think about what you said.
I hope I made it simple enough this time.
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Re: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. | DAZN PPV - June 28, 2025
Both the Tyson and Chavez fights looked fixed. Both Tyson and Chavez took the bread and won financially. Chavez almost blew it actually landing a few late on an incredibly tired Paul, who clearly can’t take any pace. No Paul is not the first manufactured guy but he has enough money to try and buy a title as well.
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100%Boxingguru75 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025, 16:16 Both the Tyson and Chavez fights looked fixed. Both Tyson and Chavez took the bread and won financially. Chavez almost blew it actually landing a few late on an incredibly tired Paul, who clearly can’t take any pace. No Paul is not the first manufactured guy but he has enough money to try and buy a title as well.