The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
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And they got started to fight for all the marbles. The winner becomes a valuable stock in the business of boxing. You got to win. Not only win, but look superb in order to get the stardom to shine the brightest. And Manny Pacquiao of the Philippines, a hero of that country, came to the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino to finish this business, once and for all.
Juan Manuel Marquez at 34, also came confident of victory. He was surely confident, at age 34, that he wanted to show that he is the best. He came physically and mentally prepared for the rematch.
Pacquiao at 29, already the Philippinos hero, also was ready.
Round one came, but this time there's no 3 knockdowns. But, the southpaw Filipino, won the first round in my view because he was much faster and accurate. Round two was won by Marquez. But, now is round 3 and Pacquiao was better. He dropped Marquez with a vicious left lead. The crowd went wild.
Determined to not to let that happen again, Marquez won round 4 in he which did some good counter punching. It's clear that Pac Man, cannot fight at Marquez's pace. He got to use that lightning speed of hands and foot to offset the Mexican counter puncher.
They went back and forth in rounds until the 8th. In the seventh round, Marquez suffers a cut by a product of an accidental headbutt. Pacquiao got his left eye cut in return by a Marquez right in the 8th round.
Pacquiao wins rounds 9 and 10 using his superior speed. He must keep the pressure by doing so. But, somehow Marquez is so good at counter punching that doesn't let Pacquiao do so.
Marquez wins round eleven. And the last round, the 12th, both fighters know that they need the round to win the fight. So both came at each other scoring. In my book, Pacquiao was much more accurate and faster.
When the fight was over. There was a big roar from both sides of the crowd between Mexicans and Philippinos. They saw another Millennial classic fight.
When the judges gave the scores, this time there was not a draw, but a split decision. And the winner was the great Manny Pacquiao of the Philippines! So the winner by split decision and new WBC Super Featherweight Champion of the World!, Manny Pacquiao! The Philippine crowd went berserk. Their hero is champion of the world......again!
Pacquiao improves to 46-3-2 with 34 knockouts. He has already beaten at last, the three members of the Mexican Holy Trinity of Marquez-Barrera-Morales. He improves his record against the Trinity to 5-1-1 with 3 knockouts.
Marquez, even though that he gave a great effort, dropped off to 48-4-1, with 35 knockouts. But, many ask the question again: Did he has really lost?
Juan Manuel Marquez at 34, also came confident of victory. He was surely confident, at age 34, that he wanted to show that he is the best. He came physically and mentally prepared for the rematch.
Pacquiao at 29, already the Philippinos hero, also was ready.
Round one came, but this time there's no 3 knockdowns. But, the southpaw Filipino, won the first round in my view because he was much faster and accurate. Round two was won by Marquez. But, now is round 3 and Pacquiao was better. He dropped Marquez with a vicious left lead. The crowd went wild.
Determined to not to let that happen again, Marquez won round 4 in he which did some good counter punching. It's clear that Pac Man, cannot fight at Marquez's pace. He got to use that lightning speed of hands and foot to offset the Mexican counter puncher.
They went back and forth in rounds until the 8th. In the seventh round, Marquez suffers a cut by a product of an accidental headbutt. Pacquiao got his left eye cut in return by a Marquez right in the 8th round.
Pacquiao wins rounds 9 and 10 using his superior speed. He must keep the pressure by doing so. But, somehow Marquez is so good at counter punching that doesn't let Pacquiao do so.
Marquez wins round eleven. And the last round, the 12th, both fighters know that they need the round to win the fight. So both came at each other scoring. In my book, Pacquiao was much more accurate and faster.
When the fight was over. There was a big roar from both sides of the crowd between Mexicans and Philippinos. They saw another Millennial classic fight.
When the judges gave the scores, this time there was not a draw, but a split decision. And the winner was the great Manny Pacquiao of the Philippines! So the winner by split decision and new WBC Super Featherweight Champion of the World!, Manny Pacquiao! The Philippine crowd went berserk. Their hero is champion of the world......again!
Pacquiao improves to 46-3-2 with 34 knockouts. He has already beaten at last, the three members of the Mexican Holy Trinity of Marquez-Barrera-Morales. He improves his record against the Trinity to 5-1-1 with 3 knockouts.
Marquez, even though that he gave a great effort, dropped off to 48-4-1, with 35 knockouts. But, many ask the question again: Did he has really lost?
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Of the scoring for this rematch, the judges scored it the following:
Jerry Roth scored it 115-112 for Juan Manuel Marquez.
And Duane Ford and Tom Miller scored it 115-112 and 115-113 respectively for Manny Pacquiao.
I have scored it 115-113, for Pac Man. But the question of many boxing writers and fans was, did Marquez really lost?
Jerry Roth scored it 115-112 for Juan Manuel Marquez.
And Duane Ford and Tom Miller scored it 115-112 and 115-113 respectively for Manny Pacquiao.
I have scored it 115-113, for Pac Man. But the question of many boxing writers and fans was, did Marquez really lost?
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Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez (II)
Saturday, March 15th, 2008
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It's Saturday night of September 13th, 2008. The great Juan Manuel Marquez forgot about his decision hard luck fight loss against the great Manny Pacquiao, who many considered as the best fighter pound per pound of the 2000s decade.
It was a hard fought battle that still, many boxing experts believe, ironically, that Dinamita has not lost a fight yet besides his first loss in his pro debut. All the other losses with Freddie Norwood, Chris John and Pacquiao in world title fights were somewhat by many questionable decisions. Did Juanma has really lost a fight? It depends on who you ask.
But, on this night, Marquez is about to take on The Ring Magazine World Lightweight Champion Joel Casamayor of Cuba. Marquez is 35. Casamayor? 37? Unbelievable!
The sport medicine plus great nutrition supplements and better effective training methods has provided guys like Marquez and Casamayor, two old heads who would have been considered has beens twenty years earlier, and would have not had a chance to compete at the highest level then, at their age, they are top fighters.
Marquez is going for his third world title in three different weight classes. Is that something impressive today as what it was twenty years earlier? Not really. But the fact that he is still competing at a higher level is something to be awed about. Thanks to today's medicine and nutrition supplements. Or whatever other factors that you want to chip in.
It was a grudge match when Casamayor from Cuba pushed Marquez in the faceoff before the weigh in. It was an ugly scene. Let's see if the fight is as good.
And it was a typical Marquez's fight. Boring if you want action. Scientific if you like boxing techniques. After the third round, Marquez dominated the fight thanks to his superior boxing IQ and Casamayor's reluctancy of mixing it up. And when he mixed it up with the Mexican great, Casamayor received nothing but left jabs, left hooks and an occasional right cross on the button.
All that grudge match at the weigh in didn't translate to the boxing ring because the way Marquez carried himself. Casamayor had some rounds of brilliance, but it wasn't enough. He should have attacked and confused Marquez with his southpaw stance and speed. But, he didn't do enough to keep his crown.
In round 10, Marquez was winning in my view by two points. And in round 11, when Casamayor slugged it out with the counter punching Marquez, Marquez got the best blows out and dropped Casamayor.
Bloodied by a clash of heads, I believe, which was typically happening in almost every Marquez's big fights, Casamayor got up and got dropped again by combinations. The American referee, Tony Weeks, stopped the contest. Casamayor was done.
The winner by technical knockout and new Ring Magazine World Lightweight Champion! Juan Manuel Marquez! Marquez becomes triple crown division champ. But, is that a big deal in today's boxing game when there are too many weight classes and 4 champions per division? You make the call.
Marquez improves to 49-4-1 with 37KOs. Casamayor drops to 36-4-1. A typical record of today's fighters.
Marquez still wants to fight Pacquiao for the third time. Would he get the fight? Let's see in the following chapters of his great boxing career.
It was a hard fought battle that still, many boxing experts believe, ironically, that Dinamita has not lost a fight yet besides his first loss in his pro debut. All the other losses with Freddie Norwood, Chris John and Pacquiao in world title fights were somewhat by many questionable decisions. Did Juanma has really lost a fight? It depends on who you ask.
But, on this night, Marquez is about to take on The Ring Magazine World Lightweight Champion Joel Casamayor of Cuba. Marquez is 35. Casamayor? 37? Unbelievable!
The sport medicine plus great nutrition supplements and better effective training methods has provided guys like Marquez and Casamayor, two old heads who would have been considered has beens twenty years earlier, and would have not had a chance to compete at the highest level then, at their age, they are top fighters.
Marquez is going for his third world title in three different weight classes. Is that something impressive today as what it was twenty years earlier? Not really. But the fact that he is still competing at a higher level is something to be awed about. Thanks to today's medicine and nutrition supplements. Or whatever other factors that you want to chip in.
It was a grudge match when Casamayor from Cuba pushed Marquez in the faceoff before the weigh in. It was an ugly scene. Let's see if the fight is as good.
And it was a typical Marquez's fight. Boring if you want action. Scientific if you like boxing techniques. After the third round, Marquez dominated the fight thanks to his superior boxing IQ and Casamayor's reluctancy of mixing it up. And when he mixed it up with the Mexican great, Casamayor received nothing but left jabs, left hooks and an occasional right cross on the button.
All that grudge match at the weigh in didn't translate to the boxing ring because the way Marquez carried himself. Casamayor had some rounds of brilliance, but it wasn't enough. He should have attacked and confused Marquez with his southpaw stance and speed. But, he didn't do enough to keep his crown.
In round 10, Marquez was winning in my view by two points. And in round 11, when Casamayor slugged it out with the counter punching Marquez, Marquez got the best blows out and dropped Casamayor.
Bloodied by a clash of heads, I believe, which was typically happening in almost every Marquez's big fights, Casamayor got up and got dropped again by combinations. The American referee, Tony Weeks, stopped the contest. Casamayor was done.
The winner by technical knockout and new Ring Magazine World Lightweight Champion! Juan Manuel Marquez! Marquez becomes triple crown division champ. But, is that a big deal in today's boxing game when there are too many weight classes and 4 champions per division? You make the call.
Marquez improves to 49-4-1 with 37KOs. Casamayor drops to 36-4-1. A typical record of today's fighters.
Marquez still wants to fight Pacquiao for the third time. Would he get the fight? Let's see in the following chapters of his great boxing career.
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Juan Manuel Marquez vs Joel Casamayor
The Ring Magazine World Lightweight Championship
Saturday, September 13th, 2008
MGM Grand- Las Vegas, NV
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elmersalsa wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025, 21:48 It's Saturday night of September 13th, 2008. The great Juan Manuel Marquez forgot about his decision hard luck fight loss against the great Manny Pacquiao, who many considered as the best fighter pound per pound of the 2000s decade.
It was a hard fought battle that still, many boxing experts believe, ironically, that Dinamita has not lost a fight yet besides his first loss in his pro debut. All the other losses with Freddie Norwood, Chris John and Pacquiao in world title fights were somewhat by many questionable decisions. Did Juanma has really lost a fight? It depends on who you ask.
But, on this night, Marquez is about to take on The Ring Magazine World Lightweight Champion Joel Casamayor of Cuba. Marquez is 35. Casamayor? 37? Unbelievable!
The sport medicine plus great nutrition supplements and better effective training methods has provided guys like Marquez and Casamayor, two old heads who would have been considered has beens twenty years earlier, and would have not had a chance to compete at the highest level then, at their age, they are top fighters.
Marquez is going for his third world title in three different weight classes. Is that something impressive today as what it was twenty years earlier? Not really. But the fact that he is still competing at a higher level is something to be awed about. Thanks to today's medicine and nutrition supplements. Or whatever other factors that you want to chip in.
It was a grudge match when Casamayor from Cuba pushed Marquez in the faceoff before the weigh in. It was an ugly scene. Let's see if the fight is as good.
And it was a typical Marquez's fight. Boring if you want action. Scientific if you like boxing techniques. After the third round, Marquez dominated the fight thanks to his superior boxing IQ and Casamayor's reluctancy of mixing it up. And when he mixed it up with the Mexican great, Casamayor received nothing but left jabs, left hooks and an occasional right cross on the button.
All that grudge match at the weigh in didn't translate to the boxing ring because the way Marquez carried himself. Casamayor had some rounds of brilliance, but it wasn't enough. He should have attacked and confused Marquez with his southpaw stance and speed. But, he didn't do enough to keep his crown.
In round 10, Marquez was winning in my view by two points. And in round 11, when Casamayor slugged it out with the counter punching Marquez, Marquez got the best blows out and dropped Casamayor.
Bloodied by a clash of heads, I believe, which was typically happening in almost every Marquez's big fights, Casamayor got up and got dropped again by combinations. The American referee, Tony Weeks, stopped the contest. Casamayor was done.
The winner by technical knockout and new Ring Magazine World Lightweight Champion! Juan Manuel Marquez! Marquez becomes triple crown division champ. But, is that a big deal in today's boxing game when there are too many weight classes and 4 champions per division? You make the call.
Marquez improves to 49-4-1 with 37KOs. Casamayor drops to 36-4-1. A typical record of today's fighters.
Marquez still wants to fight Pacquiao for the third time. Would he get the fight? Let's see in the following chapters of his great boxing career.
- The fight was shyte because they canceled each other out because of their negative boxing styles and the shyte way boxing officials operate, a perfect majority draw
Glenn Feldman 93-97 Patricia Morse Jarman 95-95 Paul Smith 95-95
Tony Weeks didn't just stop the fight, he dangerously body slammed his 250 larded lbs on top of Casamayor to prevent a count that would end well after the bell sounded so the suits could kick the underperforming Marquez up the chain as one of Vegas' Darling Favs...just sayin' the way it really wuz...only in Boxing, folks.
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The first two of those judges should have been banned 20 years ago. I know you are talking about the ref but those two are among 4-5 I Las Vagas who were criminally bad at “judging” fights and I suspect “motivated” in their scoring in many cases. There are a few in the UK and Germany who also fit that category but continue to get workBroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 12:29elmersalsa wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025, 21:48 It's Saturday night of September 13th, 2008. The great Juan Manuel Marquez forgot about his decision hard luck fight loss against the great Manny Pacquiao, who many considered as the best fighter pound per pound of the 2000s decade.
It was a hard fought battle that still, many boxing experts believe, ironically, that Dinamita has not lost a fight yet besides his first loss in his pro debut. All the other losses with Freddie Norwood, Chris John and Pacquiao in world title fights were somewhat by many questionable decisions. Did Juanma has really lost a fight? It depends on who you ask.
But, on this night, Marquez is about to take on The Ring Magazine World Lightweight Champion Joel Casamayor of Cuba. Marquez is 35. Casamayor? 37? Unbelievable!
The sport medicine plus great nutrition supplements and better effective training methods has provided guys like Marquez and Casamayor, two old heads who would have been considered has beens twenty years earlier, and would have not had a chance to compete at the highest level then, at their age, they are top fighters.
Marquez is going for his third world title in three different weight classes. Is that something impressive today as what it was twenty years earlier? Not really. But the fact that he is still competing at a higher level is something to be awed about. Thanks to today's medicine and nutrition supplements. Or whatever other factors that you want to chip in.
It was a grudge match when Casamayor from Cuba pushed Marquez in the faceoff before the weigh in. It was an ugly scene. Let's see if the fight is as good.
And it was a typical Marquez's fight. Boring if you want action. Scientific if you like boxing techniques. After the third round, Marquez dominated the fight thanks to his superior boxing IQ and Casamayor's reluctancy of mixing it up. And when he mixed it up with the Mexican great, Casamayor received nothing but left jabs, left hooks and an occasional right cross on the button.
All that grudge match at the weigh in didn't translate to the boxing ring because the way Marquez carried himself. Casamayor had some rounds of brilliance, but it wasn't enough. He should have attacked and confused Marquez with his southpaw stance and speed. But, he didn't do enough to keep his crown.
In round 10, Marquez was winning in my view by two points. And in round 11, when Casamayor slugged it out with the counter punching Marquez, Marquez got the best blows out and dropped Casamayor.
Bloodied by a clash of heads, I believe, which was typically happening in almost every Marquez's big fights, Casamayor got up and got dropped again by combinations. The American referee, Tony Weeks, stopped the contest. Casamayor was done.
The winner by technical knockout and new Ring Magazine World Lightweight Champion! Juan Manuel Marquez! Marquez becomes triple crown division champ. But, is that a big deal in today's boxing game when there are too many weight classes and 4 champions per division? You make the call.
Marquez improves to 49-4-1 with 37KOs. Casamayor drops to 36-4-1. A typical record of today's fighters.
Marquez still wants to fight Pacquiao for the third time. Would he get the fight? Let's see in the following chapters of his great boxing career.
- The fight was shyte because they canceled each other out because of their negative boxing styles and the shyte way boxing officials operate, a perfect majority draw
Glenn Feldman 93-97 Patricia Morse Jarman 95-95 Paul Smith 95-95
Tony Weeks didn't just stop the fight, he dangerously body slammed his 250 larded lbs on top of Casamayor to prevent a count that would end well after the bell sounded so the suits could kick the underperforming Marquez up the chain as one of Vegas' Darling Favs...just sayin' the way it really wuz...only in Boxing, folks.
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Thanks for your opinions and input, giacomino and BroughtonRules!
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Just wanted to mention that my daughter has now graduated from High School. When this count down of elmer's favorite 100 fighters started, she was in 6th grade.
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Congratulations to your daughter my man on her graduation. I hope that she does better in life waaaay better than you!Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 20:03 Just wanted to mention that my daughter has now graduated from High School. When this count down of elmer's favorite 100 fighters started, she was in 6th grade.
Thanks for your comments!
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Juan Manuel Marquez takes on Juan Diaz next.
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Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 20:03 Just wanted to mention that my daughter has now graduated from High School. When this count down of elmer's favorite 100 fighters started, she was in 6th grade.
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You got off easy, some dudes died.Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 20:03 Just wanted to mention that my daughter has now graduated from High School. When this count down of elmer's favorite 100 fighters started, she was in 6th grade.
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Thanks for the comments. We are in #52 revisiting the career of the great Juan Manuel Marquez. Thanks
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If I continue to read his drawn out posts I'll die too.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025, 00:16You got off easy, some dudes died.Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 20:03 Just wanted to mention that my daughter has now graduated from High School. When this count down of elmer's favorite 100 fighters started, she was in 6th grade.
Over 6 years and we are barely half way done with his thread.
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Oh, well. Have a nice life.tiny_acres wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025, 20:43If I continue to read his drawn out posts I'll die too.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025, 00:16You got off easy, some dudes died.Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 20:03 Just wanted to mention that my daughter has now graduated from High School. When this count down of elmer's favorite 100 fighters started, she was in 6th grade.
Over 6 years and we are barely half way done with his thread.![]()
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It seems that every fight that the great Juan Manuel Marquez wants to participate in, got to be with a great fighter. He was only fighting the best. At 35 years of age, an age that he should be considering retiring, Marquez is like the fine wine in a cellar. The older the wine, the better
This time, Marquez fights a formidable opponent named Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz, of Houston, TX..
This time, Marquez fights a formidable opponent named Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz, of Houston, TX..
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Juan Manuel Marquez, the Ring Magazine World and Linear Lightweight Champion, defends his crown against Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz of Houston, TX on Saturday, February 28, 2009 at the Toyota Center in Houston.
Fights between Mexicans and Chicanos (Mexican Americans) always been fights for the most part, great wars in the annals of boxing history. Fights like Ruben Olivares vs Bobby Chacon, Vicente Saldivar vs Raul Rojas, and Bobby Chacon vs Rafael "Bazooka" Limon for example, are some of the great fights that these groups had given us in boxing through the years.
Blood, sweat and the greatest of courage that doesn't lack one but in which fight fans come out of the arena completely satisfied. Their money was worth every penny.
Diaz, a young man at 25 years old, with a fine record of 34-1, 16 knockouts, is challenging the champion Marquez in his hometown of Houston. A two-time lightweight world champion, he became WBA World Lightweight king when he defeated Lavka Sim of Mongolia on July 7th, 3007 by decision in 12 rounds.
Not a big puncher, but a extremely crowd pleaser, is a pressure fighter that fights with high intensity. His boxing technique is kind of okay, but his stamina is one of a kind. A very durable fighter.
Among his best wins, he got wins over champions like Acelino Freitas (WTKO8), Julio Diaz (WTKO9) and top contender Michael Katsidis (W12). He lost a hard fought decision against Nate Campbell. Now, he wants to prove that he's the best lightweight in the world.
Well, he will have the chance against a great and aging fighter in Marquez that is the favorite and has the advantage in experience. Marquez has fought the very best of his era and is continuing doing so.
Marquez won the hearts of his Mexican fans. Now, he belongs in the Mexican Holy Trinity with Erik "Terrible" Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera of the 2000s decade.
Fights between Mexicans and Chicanos (Mexican Americans) always been fights for the most part, great wars in the annals of boxing history. Fights like Ruben Olivares vs Bobby Chacon, Vicente Saldivar vs Raul Rojas, and Bobby Chacon vs Rafael "Bazooka" Limon for example, are some of the great fights that these groups had given us in boxing through the years.
Blood, sweat and the greatest of courage that doesn't lack one but in which fight fans come out of the arena completely satisfied. Their money was worth every penny.
Diaz, a young man at 25 years old, with a fine record of 34-1, 16 knockouts, is challenging the champion Marquez in his hometown of Houston. A two-time lightweight world champion, he became WBA World Lightweight king when he defeated Lavka Sim of Mongolia on July 7th, 3007 by decision in 12 rounds.
Not a big puncher, but a extremely crowd pleaser, is a pressure fighter that fights with high intensity. His boxing technique is kind of okay, but his stamina is one of a kind. A very durable fighter.
Among his best wins, he got wins over champions like Acelino Freitas (WTKO8), Julio Diaz (WTKO9) and top contender Michael Katsidis (W12). He lost a hard fought decision against Nate Campbell. Now, he wants to prove that he's the best lightweight in the world.
Well, he will have the chance against a great and aging fighter in Marquez that is the favorite and has the advantage in experience. Marquez has fought the very best of his era and is continuing doing so.
Marquez won the hearts of his Mexican fans. Now, he belongs in the Mexican Holy Trinity with Erik "Terrible" Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera of the 2000s decade.
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A jammed-packed Toyota Center in Houston, TX for the Ring Magazine World and Linear Lightweight Championship presented us one of the greatest lightweight title fights of all-time.
Having his hometown crowd cheering for him, Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz didn't disappoint in his performance. He was already on the attack and won the first round. The second round, the champion, Juan Manuel Marquez of Mexico had to get to work and he did, giving his Mexican fans what they wanted to see.....a fight!
Marquez wins rounds 3 and 4 with his clever combination punching, but Diaz, like a bull, was on top of him. Diaz is for real. He won rounds 5 and 6 clearly with a vicious attack at the champion. He should have that type of momentum. That's one of the ways to beat this Mexican legend. By pressing the action at a fast pace. Don't let the foot out of the gas.
But, Diaz didn't keep up. Even though he did his best, Marquez wins rounds 7 and 8 and it was showing that the tide was on Marquez's favor. Was it experience? Yes! Marquez showed his experience brilliantly with beautiful counter punching techniques. By the end of round 8, he was in control when the Baby Bull Diaz wobbled from a straight right of Marquez.
Marquez had a nasty cut in his left eyelid. But, he is a warrior. Round 9 came and both fighters threw leather that put the crowd off their seats. A combination by the champion puts Diaz down. He gets up and Marquez finished him up with a right uppercut. That's it! The referee, Rafael Ramos of Puerto Rico stops the fight and the winner and still The Ring Magazine World and Linear Lightweight Champion! Juan Manuel Marquez!
Marquez improves in this great win with a record of 50-4-1, with 38 knockouts. Diaz falls to 34-2 with 16 knockouts.
I was ignorant about this fight. And boy, what a fight! One of the most underrated great fights of the 2000s decade. Two warriors gave their all. Marquez now wants to fight the great Floyd Mayweather Jr at welterweight. That's a big task and challenge. Can he make the weight to fight one of the greatest boxers of all-time?
But, this fight with Diaz deserves a second fight. A return match. And why not? Both fighters gave us something of how boxing should be. Rematch anyone?
Having his hometown crowd cheering for him, Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz didn't disappoint in his performance. He was already on the attack and won the first round. The second round, the champion, Juan Manuel Marquez of Mexico had to get to work and he did, giving his Mexican fans what they wanted to see.....a fight!
Marquez wins rounds 3 and 4 with his clever combination punching, but Diaz, like a bull, was on top of him. Diaz is for real. He won rounds 5 and 6 clearly with a vicious attack at the champion. He should have that type of momentum. That's one of the ways to beat this Mexican legend. By pressing the action at a fast pace. Don't let the foot out of the gas.
But, Diaz didn't keep up. Even though he did his best, Marquez wins rounds 7 and 8 and it was showing that the tide was on Marquez's favor. Was it experience? Yes! Marquez showed his experience brilliantly with beautiful counter punching techniques. By the end of round 8, he was in control when the Baby Bull Diaz wobbled from a straight right of Marquez.
Marquez had a nasty cut in his left eyelid. But, he is a warrior. Round 9 came and both fighters threw leather that put the crowd off their seats. A combination by the champion puts Diaz down. He gets up and Marquez finished him up with a right uppercut. That's it! The referee, Rafael Ramos of Puerto Rico stops the fight and the winner and still The Ring Magazine World and Linear Lightweight Champion! Juan Manuel Marquez!
Marquez improves in this great win with a record of 50-4-1, with 38 knockouts. Diaz falls to 34-2 with 16 knockouts.
I was ignorant about this fight. And boy, what a fight! One of the most underrated great fights of the 2000s decade. Two warriors gave their all. Marquez now wants to fight the great Floyd Mayweather Jr at welterweight. That's a big task and challenge. Can he make the weight to fight one of the greatest boxers of all-time?
But, this fight with Diaz deserves a second fight. A return match. And why not? Both fighters gave us something of how boxing should be. Rematch anyone?
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Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz (I)
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Now, at 35, the great Juan Manuel Marquez is determined to fight great fighters for great paydays. He would fight anyone, anybody, any place at any time.
At this time of his career, it seems for the Mexican Dynamite that a third fight with the great Manny Pacquiao is not coming any sooner. Is Pac Man ducking Dinamita?
Marquez for counter-action, now prefers a fight against the great Floyd Mayweather Jr. A fighter that is a bigger man and is two weight classes above him. The only thing that Marquez got a chance is if Mayweather, who retired in 2008 for a year and was plagued by personal problems, becomes rusty and totally out of boxing.
At 31, Mayweather, an undefeated champion with a 39-0, 25KOs record, has beaten a great deal of good and outstanding fighters: Oscar De La Hoya (W12), Genaro Hernandez (WTKO8), Angel Manfredy (WTKO2), Diego Corrales (WTKO10), Jose Luis Castillo (W12 twice), Arturo Gatti (WTKO6), Shambra Mitchell (WTKO6), Zab Judah (W12), and Ricky Hatton WTKO10).
That's a hell of a resume. He has beaten 3/4 of the best fighters in the world so far. Would Marquez be another notch on his belt?
Mayweather has also won world boxing championships in 5 different weight classes from Jr. Lightweight to Jr. Middleweight. A true outstanding all-time pound per pound great that is voicing his opinion as the best fighter ever to put on the boxing gloves. He is the Best Ever, according to him.
At this time of his career, it seems for the Mexican Dynamite that a third fight with the great Manny Pacquiao is not coming any sooner. Is Pac Man ducking Dinamita?
Marquez for counter-action, now prefers a fight against the great Floyd Mayweather Jr. A fighter that is a bigger man and is two weight classes above him. The only thing that Marquez got a chance is if Mayweather, who retired in 2008 for a year and was plagued by personal problems, becomes rusty and totally out of boxing.
At 31, Mayweather, an undefeated champion with a 39-0, 25KOs record, has beaten a great deal of good and outstanding fighters: Oscar De La Hoya (W12), Genaro Hernandez (WTKO8), Angel Manfredy (WTKO2), Diego Corrales (WTKO10), Jose Luis Castillo (W12 twice), Arturo Gatti (WTKO6), Shambra Mitchell (WTKO6), Zab Judah (W12), and Ricky Hatton WTKO10).
That's a hell of a resume. He has beaten 3/4 of the best fighters in the world so far. Would Marquez be another notch on his belt?
Mayweather has also won world boxing championships in 5 different weight classes from Jr. Lightweight to Jr. Middleweight. A true outstanding all-time pound per pound great that is voicing his opinion as the best fighter ever to put on the boxing gloves. He is the Best Ever, according to him.
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The great Floyd Mayweather, Jr of Cedar Rapids, MI, and his rival Juan Manuel Marquez of Mexico City, Mexico agreed to fight at the MGM Grand Garden in Las Vegas, NV for Saturday night, September 19, 2009. The fight was billed as "Number One, Numero Uno".
The fight was staged at welterweight limit no more than 144lbs. The welterweight limit is 147lbs. No title, no world championship is at stake. The fight is scheduled for 12 rounds. Marquez, a lightweight, got to jump two weight classes to fight Pretty Boy Floyd.
The winner, could claim the title of The Best Fighter in Boxing in the world. The country of Mexico is all in for this fight behind Marquez. They are going to support their countryman the best they can when fight time comes. It is going to be made 4 days after The Mexican Independence Day.
Marquez is one of Mexico's Trinity of great fighters like Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik "El Terrible" Morales. He is the only one of the Trinity to fight Pretty Boy Floyd.
The fight was staged at welterweight limit no more than 144lbs. The welterweight limit is 147lbs. No title, no world championship is at stake. The fight is scheduled for 12 rounds. Marquez, a lightweight, got to jump two weight classes to fight Pretty Boy Floyd.
The winner, could claim the title of The Best Fighter in Boxing in the world. The country of Mexico is all in for this fight behind Marquez. They are going to support their countryman the best they can when fight time comes. It is going to be made 4 days after The Mexican Independence Day.
Marquez is one of Mexico's Trinity of great fighters like Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik "El Terrible" Morales. He is the only one of the Trinity to fight Pretty Boy Floyd.
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The fight was a one sided affair. It's one of the most one-sided super fights of all-time. Floyd Mayweather Jr did whatever he wanted. He gave Juan Manuel Marquez a good ol' thrashing. In my view, Pretty Boy Floyd won all the rounds.
It was a total mismatch. It was the first time in his career that Marquez was totally dominated. He was dropped in the second round by a terrific Mayweather left hook. Layoff? What layoff? Mayweather has not look so good against a top rival in years. He proved that he's probably the best fighter pound per pound in the world behind the great Manny Pacquiao of the Philippines.
Mayweather was all wrong for the Mexican champion and it showed. He was too fast, too big and too strong for Marquez. Marquez, a great warrior, was totally defeated by mid fight. Each round was worse for him. People and boxing experts were always talking, even with the Pacquiao fights, if he ever lost a fight in his career for real. This time, he was. He really lost. And bad. No excuses. There was no room for that. The only excuse that boxing fans could ever come up with was the difference in weight and size and that Marquez had to jump to two weight classes to challenge Mayweather.
Mayweather improves his record to 40-0, with 25 knockouts. He got another victim, a great victim under his belt. Marquez, recognizing Mayweather's dominance, dropped to 50-5-1 with 38 knockouts.
The only consolation for Marquez is that he didn't lose his Lightweight world championship belt awarded by The Ring Magazine. A rematch with Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz in the works?
It was a total mismatch. It was the first time in his career that Marquez was totally dominated. He was dropped in the second round by a terrific Mayweather left hook. Layoff? What layoff? Mayweather has not look so good against a top rival in years. He proved that he's probably the best fighter pound per pound in the world behind the great Manny Pacquiao of the Philippines.
Mayweather was all wrong for the Mexican champion and it showed. He was too fast, too big and too strong for Marquez. Marquez, a great warrior, was totally defeated by mid fight. Each round was worse for him. People and boxing experts were always talking, even with the Pacquiao fights, if he ever lost a fight in his career for real. This time, he was. He really lost. And bad. No excuses. There was no room for that. The only excuse that boxing fans could ever come up with was the difference in weight and size and that Marquez had to jump to two weight classes to challenge Mayweather.
Mayweather improves his record to 40-0, with 25 knockouts. He got another victim, a great victim under his belt. Marquez, recognizing Mayweather's dominance, dropped to 50-5-1 with 38 knockouts.
The only consolation for Marquez is that he didn't lose his Lightweight world championship belt awarded by The Ring Magazine. A rematch with Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz in the works?
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Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Floyd Mayweather Jr dominates Juan Manuel Marquez
Saturday, September 19, 2009
MGM Grand Garden, Las Vegas, NV
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Good morning, ladies and gentlemen! It's been a long time!
Juan Manuel Marquez, the terrific great Mexican boxer of his generation was convinced that he was no match for the great Floyd Mayweather Jr. He had to challenge Pretty Boy Floyd at Welterweight. At 147lbs, the weight class was too much and risky for the brilliant Mexican warrior.
But, at lightweight, Marquez is King. He came back to lightweight to fight a rematch against Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz of Texas. Who can forget their first fight which was an all-time lightweight title fight classic? Marquez vs Diaz fight #1 was one of the greatest fights at 135lbs in recent memory.
Could fight #2 be as good or better? Perhaps. But it wasn't. Marquez clearly dominated a gun shy Diaz in all areas. He showed his mastery and class in which this time, Diaz was not a match. In all judges scorecards, Marquez won by a large margin.
American judges, Patricia Morse-Jarman, Jerry Roth and Glenn Trowbridge scored the bout 117-111, 116-112 and 118-110 respectively for Marquez.
I saw it 118-110 for Marquez. The fight was on Saturday, July 31, 2010 at Mandalay Bay Casino and Resort in Las Vegas, NV.
Marquez is still the WBA and Lineal Ring Magazine World Lightweight Champion and improves to 51-5-1 with 38 knockouts.
Diaz drops to 35-4, with 16 knockouts.
Juan Manuel Marquez, the terrific great Mexican boxer of his generation was convinced that he was no match for the great Floyd Mayweather Jr. He had to challenge Pretty Boy Floyd at Welterweight. At 147lbs, the weight class was too much and risky for the brilliant Mexican warrior.
But, at lightweight, Marquez is King. He came back to lightweight to fight a rematch against Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz of Texas. Who can forget their first fight which was an all-time lightweight title fight classic? Marquez vs Diaz fight #1 was one of the greatest fights at 135lbs in recent memory.
Could fight #2 be as good or better? Perhaps. But it wasn't. Marquez clearly dominated a gun shy Diaz in all areas. He showed his mastery and class in which this time, Diaz was not a match. In all judges scorecards, Marquez won by a large margin.
American judges, Patricia Morse-Jarman, Jerry Roth and Glenn Trowbridge scored the bout 117-111, 116-112 and 118-110 respectively for Marquez.
I saw it 118-110 for Marquez. The fight was on Saturday, July 31, 2010 at Mandalay Bay Casino and Resort in Las Vegas, NV.
Marquez is still the WBA and Lineal Ring Magazine World Lightweight Champion and improves to 51-5-1 with 38 knockouts.
Diaz drops to 35-4, with 16 knockouts.