Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois II | PPV - 19 July 2025

Who wins the rematch?

Poll ended at 19 Jul 2025, 08:58

Usyk - Decision
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41%
Usyk - T/KO
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43%
DRAW
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Dubois - T/KO
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Dubois - Decision
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Total votes: 95

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MasterG wrote: 22 Jun 2025, 09:19 Im going to put my reputation on the line, saying that my reputation is in the gutter so it's means nothing.

Usyk v Dubois is going to be similar to the Tommy Morrison v Michael Bentt encounter
What? You mean Usyk is gonna go to a rock concert, drink beer all night, possibly do cocaine, and stay up until 6am smashing some woman ‘fan’ with a bouffant and fight like John Wayne before being tagged and blasted out whilst nursing a giant hangover?????
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Post by margaret thatcher »

usyk was pretty good in the fury rematch, if he's even close to that form he'll beat dubois again. the wild card is if he drops off a cliff, which can happen for guys with long careers, but he was still very good not that long ago. and of course already has a stoppage of dubois, so we know that on form he can more than handle him.

watching dub's last 3 .i dont really see that he does anything much better than he did when he fought usyk, he a big strong hard punching but basic fighter, it was enough vs lesser boxers there to be hit (and even then hrgovic lit him up for 4-5 rounds), but usyk is a totally different opponent. worlds apart in style and ability from miller, joshua, hrg.

for someone regarded so highly, it feels like usyk has often been doubted
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margaret thatcher wrote: 25 Jun 2025, 15:42 usyk was pretty good in the fury rematch, if he's even close to that form he'll beat dubois again. the wild card is if he drops off a cliff, which can happen for guys with long careers, but he was still very good not that long ago

watching dub's last 3 .i dont really see that he does anything much better than he did when he fought usyk, he a big strong hard punching but basic fighter, it was enough vs lesser boxers there to be hit (and even then hrgovic lit him up for 4-5 rounds), but usyk is a totally different opponent.

for someone regarded so highly, it feels like usyk has often been doubted
Other than a careless mistake and Daniel's stars lining up at the same time, Usyk's phenomenal training volume finally taking its toll is the only thing that will see him beat. Dubois is not good enough to beat Usyk up (unless Usyk has become shop worn), he is powerful enough to chin him but that doesn't make him the best heavyweight on the planet in the same way Rahman was never the best.
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Post by keithmoonhangover »

I have a strange feeling that DDD will win this fight, then there'll be a rubber match, Usyk wins that and retires.
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I think it be very close, DD is on a hell of a roll, super confident, Usyk has maybe slid a little. That said I think Usyk will nick it on points, he just takes over agaisnt these big un the last few rounds.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 25 Jun 2025, 17:11 I think it be very close, DD is on a hell of a roll, super confident, Usyk has maybe slid a little. That said I think Usyk will nick it on points, he just takes over agaisnt these big un the last few rounds.
It seems to be a common perception that Usyk is slipping , personaly i don't know what people are basing that on , his wins over Fury , Aj , or the fact that DD landed a very dodgy punch around the belt area and then got thouroghly outboxed and stopped , low maybee maybee not depends if your a fan boy , myself i thought it was low and Usyk being the experienced guy he is milked it , but facts are DD is a dirty fighter he pulls low shots out the bag regular .

Usyk may have slipped you cannot discount that purely from his age and miles on the clock , but i've not seen it , alls i've seen is he dominates and rules the ring no matter who he's in with ,

DD on the other hand i've not seen any massive improvement , just seen him do better against guys who are not now has good has they once were or were percieved to be ,

Usyk schools him
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Usyk has a point to prove. He wants to leave no doubt he beats Dubois again this time with no controversy. I think he stops him again
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KRASSYUK SPLIT WILL NOT AFFECT USYK'S PERFORMANCE VS. DUBOIS, SAYS PROMOTER WARREN

Fräņk Wařřen has warned Daniel Dubois not to bank on the shock split between Oleksandr Usyk and long-time promoter Alex Krassyuk affecting the unified champion’s performance whatsoever.

There is now less than a month before The Ring's champion Usyk puts his titles on the line against IBF champion Dubois in an undisputed heavyweight fight at Wembley Stadium.

But all has not been well inside Team Usyk and the changes came to a head this past weekend when the heavyweight’s promoter confirmed they had parted ways after what he described as ‘12 years of unbelievable success’.

“Two young dreamers met each other to change the game,” Krassyuk wrote on social media. “Back in 2013, I gave you my word and kept it. At the time, no-one believed we were capable of achieving what we set out to do. But by the grace of God, we completed the mission impossible.”

With Usyk now vying to become a three-time undisputed champion, and history’s first two-time four-belt heavyweight king, his mission is not yet over but he will press on without Krassyuk by his side.

It had been suggested that such turmoil inside the camp might just offer Dubois a confidence boost as he bids to not only become the first man to beat Usyk as a professional but also exact revenge for his ninth round stoppage in Poland nearly two years ago.

But Warren, who has promoted Dubois for his whole professional career, does not buy that the split will help Dubois.

“It’s nothing,” Warren said during an interview with The Ring. “I don’t see it affecting Usyk in this fight.

“The one who has the power in that camp is the trainer Sergey [Lapin] so I don’t see how it will affect anything on a day-to-day basis. His training camp is nothing to do with Krassyuk so I think it will be business as usual as far as that is concerned.

“And the deal has already been done for this fight so there is nothing to worry about there either. He was his promoter, but when was the last time he actually promoted him? They have been boxing on everyone else’s show. He hasn’t been promoted by him, as the lead promoter, for years now.”

Usyk’s last two fights, both against Tyson Fury, both won on points, took place on Riyadh Season cards at the Kingdom Arena. Incidentally, the last time Krassyuk was listed as lead promoter for an Usyk fight was his first victory over Dubois in Wroclaw, Poland in August 2023.

“I don’t see this news having any bearing on the fight,” Warren added. “He’s 37 years old, he’s no schmuck. He’s a sensible, fellow Usyk, and given what they are dealing with - with bombs being dropped on their country - I should think this split is actually a minor detail.”

In contrast, from the outside at least, it seems as though everything has been plain sailing for Dubois and his team. Warren, like he said Krassyuk did, keeps himself at arm’s length from the day-to-day graft in order to let them get on with it without any interference.

“Daniel is in a good place,” Warren said. “I let them get on with it and I always think that if I don’t hear from them then there’s no problem. They only come to me when there’s a problem so - at this point, no news is good news.

“I speak to Don all the time so I know what’s going on and that is all that I care about.”

It was reported that more than 60,000 tickets for the fight, Dubois’ second consecutive headline appearance at Wembley Stadium, were snapped up within 24 hours of going on sale in early May. That number, Warren says, has risen to nearly 80,000 and they are now considering a move to extend the capacity to its 94,000 capacity.

He said: “We’re at 78,000 now. When we get to around 84,000, or near that, then we will go for the 94,000. You have to apply for that ahead of time so we will only do that if we are confident of filling the seats. We still have a bit of time to get that done.”
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JamesPhilips wrote: 25 Jun 2025, 15:38
MasterG wrote: 22 Jun 2025, 09:19 Im going to put my reputation on the line, saying that my reputation is in the gutter so it's means nothing.

Usyk v Dubois is going to be similar to the Tommy Morrison v Michael Bentt encounter
What? You mean Usyk is gonna go to a rock concert, drink beer all night, possibly do cocaine, and stay up until 6am smashing some woman ‘fan’ with a bouffant and fight like John Wayne before being tagged and blasted out whilst nursing a giant hangover?????
Probably not as concise as that.
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Post by margaret thatcher »

krassyuk isnt his trainer or his beloved father or something, i dont see why splitting with a manager a month before a fight would be some big impact on performance. could it reflect some hidden concern krassyuk has about usyk's welfare? maaaaaybe, and i think thats more likely than a scenario where usyk is somehow crushed by krassyuk splitting, but tbh i still dont really read into it much
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If the contract is up, and Usyk is seriously considering retirement and other projects within that retirement, why would he engage into another contract with Krassyuk, or anybody else now unless it's for eye-watering money as some kind of special envoy for Turki or similar?

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Sasha pays Alex the percentage he would have got for this fight anyway.
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coneye wrote: 26 Jun 2025, 02:14
Nightmare Roy wrote: 25 Jun 2025, 17:11 I think it be very close, DD is on a hell of a roll, super confident, Usyk has maybe slid a little. That said I think Usyk will nick it on points, he just takes over agaisnt these big un the last few rounds.
It seems to be a common perception that Usyk is slipping , personaly i don't know what people are basing that on , his wins over Fury , Aj , or the fact that DD landed a very dodgy punch around the belt area and then got thouroghly outboxed and stopped , low maybee maybee not depends if your a fan boy , myself i thought it was low and Usyk being the experienced guy he is milked it , but facts are DD is a dirty fighter he pulls low shots out the bag regular .

Usyk may have slipped you cannot discount that purely from his age and miles on the clock , but i've not seen it , alls i've seen is he dominates and rules the ring no matter who he's in with ,

DD on the other hand i've not seen any massive improvement , just seen him do better against guys who are not now has good has they once were or were percieved to be ,

Usyk schools him
I agree 100% - British boxing fans remind me of American boxing fans from the 90's who cant entertain the fact that there British (those days American) could be losing a fight, and it seems there buying the bullshit spin from Warren and Dybois team that this is an even fight 😳 and trying to talk down Usyk's chances of winning
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He made his debut on the first fight card.

Only fitting he’s on the rematch haha
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Alba wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 07:27
coneye wrote: 26 Jun 2025, 02:14
Nightmare Roy wrote: 25 Jun 2025, 17:11 I think it be very close, DD is on a hell of a roll, super confident, Usyk has maybe slid a little. That said I think Usyk will nick it on points, he just takes over agaisnt these big un the last few rounds.
It seems to be a common perception that Usyk is slipping , personaly i don't know what people are basing that on , his wins over Fury , Aj , or the fact that DD landed a very dodgy punch around the belt area and then got thouroghly outboxed and stopped , low maybee maybee not depends if your a fan boy , myself i thought it was low and Usyk being the experienced guy he is milked it , but facts are DD is a dirty fighter he pulls low shots out the bag regular .

Usyk may have slipped you cannot discount that purely from his age and miles on the clock , but i've not seen it , alls i've seen is he dominates and rules the ring no matter who he's in with ,

DD on the other hand i've not seen any massive improvement , just seen him do better against guys who are not now has good has they once were or were percieved to be ,

Usyk schools him
I agree 100% - British boxing fans remind me of American boxing fans from the 90's who cant entertain the fact that there British (those days American) could be losing a fight, and it seems there buying the bullshit spin from Warren and Dybois team that this is an even fight 😳 and trying to talk down Usyk's chances of winning
I think the actual boxing fans who go to this fight, are going to see a once in a generation HW fighter. It may be their last and only chance without having to travel to Saudi and suffer the dead atmosphere that accompanies those cards.
Boxing fans aren't buying the desperate spin on how much Doobie has improved, or how close (not even close) he was to winning their last bout with his low blow..
The only question mark is Uysk and his age, nothing else.
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I think DD has improved. Has more self-belief. He might go in swinging. I hope so. Usyk grinds these big fellas down.
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Surely big Dan's only chance is to unload everything from the first bell. Try and catch him cold

He isnt going to outbox, outthink, or out conditions Usyk. That's clear as day.

AJ had some success in the second fight when he started unloading. It's the only way. You have to make him work at a pace he doesn't like, on the back foot and against the ropes. Rough him up.

Shit or bust basically. What other way is there? He's not a huge one punch ko artist, so the chances of walking onto a fight ending punch in the early rounds are pretty small.

Obviously its easier said than done but he did it to Miller, Hrgovic and AJ. Usyk on another level to those guys but it does show that constant pressure and constant punches, making them work flat out from the off is what works for him.

Looking forward to it. Danny has a chance but if he stands off him and tries to box (despite his own very heavy jab) he'll get done

Wouldn't surprise me if he gets a couple of points deducted for low blows
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On if he believes Usyk has a weakness to the body
“There might be. I think he’s been down a few times with body shots so, yeah, this time I definitely got to throw the kitchen sink at him and land everywhere.”

On if Usyk would’ve beaten the count if the referee ruled it a knockdown when they first fought
“Probably not in time, but now we’re talking about it, I get the chance to rectify that and put that controversy to bed and wipe the slate clean. So that’s what I’m focused on now.

“I feel like I’m a better fighter now, more improved, more conditioned and just ready to be even better version, a better solider and just go to war.”

On if he believes he has a better chance to win this rematch
“I think it’s going to be totally different. If the people thinking it’s going to be the same thing then they’re in for a shock, a surprise — even their team.”

On being a better fighter now than he was when he first fought Usyk
“Growing up. We all have to grow up eventually. It’s just been a journey from a boy to a man, from the womb to the tomb, they say. That’s how it is.”
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Soloman Dacres been added. Very interesting fight. Not sure it's a fight I'd put him in with. The Pole has a bloody good KO ratio.
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There are some neat training clips on YouTube, search "7 days with Usyk"
I love the innovative way he trains. :box:
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Fight Week!! :bag:
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I'm still unconvinced by Dubois. the way he was rocked by Lerena, the way he gave up against Usyk, how he was caught by AJ still will be making Usyk smile
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Jul 2025, 04:08 Fight Week!! :bag:
Seems a bit low key, haven't seen that much in the general media hyping it up
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tony1234 wrote: 14 Jul 2025, 06:03
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Jul 2025, 04:08 Fight Week!! :bag:
Seems a bit low key, haven't seen that much in the general media hyping it up
We'll see all the hype this week
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Ok 5 days out and I’m now trying to come up with scenarios where DDD can win this …confidence never been better - hitting hard enough to stop a freight train…USYK taking punches in the land of the giants awhile now, that superlative chin can’t last forever
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Jul 2025, 06:09
tony1234 wrote: 14 Jul 2025, 06:03
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Jul 2025, 04:08 Fight Week!! :bag:
Seems a bit low key, haven't seen that much in the general media hyping it up
We'll see all the hype this week
I'm looking forward to it anyway, always a chance one fight too many for Usyk
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