No More PPV’s!

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 17:43
gregregegg wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 17:20 I wonder if that idea will be true in Australia. We get ppv’d on nearly everything.
You have DAZN there too?

Most things are on foxtel? Or fox? Kayo?
All this Saudi stuff and Ed has been dazn for years, and they fvck us…. Globally these fights are ment to be 19.99usd… but for us it’s 30usd… even though it’s early morning…

For our fights it’s normally kayo… but I actualy watch more brittish and usa boxing uk time suits me better. I get up at 6 and go to bed at 9 basically so an 11pm Aus main event isn’t great…. But uk cards for me Sunday morning can normally watch the top 2/3 fights without setting an alarm just getting up with the sun. Then get on with my Sunday, Then wind down with USA main event at 2/3pm…
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gregregegg wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 18:11
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 17:43
gregregegg wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 17:20 I wonder if that idea will be true in Australia. We get ppv’d on nearly everything.
You have DAZN there too?

Most things are on foxtel? Or fox? Kayo?
All this Saudi stuff and Ed has been dazn for years, and they fvck us…. Globally these fights are ment to be 19.99usd… but for us it’s 30usd… even though it’s early morning…

For our fights it’s normally kayo… but I actualy watch more brittish and usa boxing uk time suits me better. I get up at 6 and go to bed at 9 basically so an 11pm Aus main event isn’t great…. But uk cards for me Sunday morning can normally watch the top 2/3 fights without setting an alarm just getting up with the sun. Then get on with my Sunday, Then wind down with USA main event at 2/3pm…
I.m the same get up early and love
My Sunday morning boxing I sit in peice with a coffee watch the boxing usually British before the nagging machine gets up Lol
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 12:01 DAZN have changed up their pricing too much in the past few years.

Not trusted.
They've yet to turn a profit in 9 years of operating and made a loss of over a billion dollars in each of the last 3 years which apparently is perfectly normal for streaming platforms. But like you say it doesn't exactly fill you with confidence that they won't be increasing prices any time their shareholders get a bit twitchy
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CaptainSpacerod wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 19:19
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 12:01 DAZN have changed up their pricing too much in the past few years.

Not trusted.
They've yet to turn a profit in 9 years of operating and made a loss of over a billion dollars in each of the last 3 years which apparently is perfectly normal for streaming platforms. But like you say it doesn't exactly fill you with confidence that they won't be increasing prices any time their shareholders get a bit twitchy
My word thats some frightening figures.
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Post by coneye »

TheLeprechaun wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 20:25
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 19:19
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 12:01 DAZN have changed up their pricing too much in the past few years.

Not trusted.
They've yet to turn a profit in 9 years of operating and made a loss of over a billion dollars in each of the last 3 years which apparently is perfectly normal for streaming platforms. But like you say it doesn't exactly fill you with confidence that they won't be increasing prices any time their shareholders get a bit twitchy
My word thats some frightening figures.
Jeezthats some big money . How do they survive
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First PPV i remember, living in the US, looking forward to catching Larry Holmes defence against Trevor Berbick on tv, usually ABC NBC or CBS - all free - and being confounded to learn I couldn’t see it, cause it was on something called HBO.
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MightyWarrior wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 03:33 First PPV i remember, living in the US, looking forward to catching Larry Holmes defence against Trevor Berbick on tv, usually ABC NBC or CBS - all free - and being confounded to learn I couldn’t see it, cause it was on something called HBO.
That wasn’t a PPV tho was it? But compared to the other HBO was a paid channel.
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Yes, exactly, but the concept of a subscription channel or paywall, was completely new to me.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 08:42
I’ve already purchased a yearly subscription (in February) so does this mean I have to get a EXTRA subscription for these fights :-x
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MightyWarrior wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 03:50 Yes, exactly, but the concept of a subscription channel or paywall, was completely new to me.
Exactly. To me if you have to pay with cash rather than just your time (ads) to view it is PPV I.e. all paid subs are PPV and some are PPV with more PPV once you are in.
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aidenp25 wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 04:04
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 08:42
I’ve already purchased a yearly subscription (in February) so does this mean I have to get a EXTRA subscription for these fights :-x
Looks like it will be an extra subscription on top of the basic subscription, how many PPV's can they put on to make it worth while ?
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aidenp25 wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 04:04
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Jul 2025, 08:42
I’ve already purchased a yearly subscription (in February) so does this mean I have to get a EXTRA subscription for these fights :-x
Turki is doing a wonderful job promoting IPTV.
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If they do a subscription plus a subscription on top, I'll probably just go the firestick route. So many people use them anyway but I'm keen to support the sport. However if it becomes too expensive I'll need to find another way.
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Does Turki even want or need to make money? Has he not just got limitless state wealth, which he is using to sportswash his country to order, isn’t that what it’s all about?
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MightyWarrior wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 09:52 Does Turki even want or need to make money? Has he not just got limitless state wealth, which he is using to sportswash his country to order, isn’t that what it’s all about?
It's greed
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tony1234 wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 10:07
MightyWarrior wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 09:52 Does Turki even want or need to make money? Has he not just got limitless state wealth, which he is using to sportswash his country to order, isn’t that what it’s all about?
It's greed
There has always been a plan to keep the economy bouyant after the oil runs out.
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KiwiRider wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 15:07
tony1234 wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 10:07
MightyWarrior wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 09:52 Does Turki even want or need to make money? Has he not just got limitless state wealth, which he is using to sportswash his country to order, isn’t that what it’s all about?
It's greed
There has always been a plan to keep the economy bouyant after the oil runs out.
You can’t keep a State's economy buoyant by promoting boxing, mate. It's chump change.

The smarter move is too use your money to take over sport and then make sport free to air globally to promote your nation and tourism.
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Subscription is still paying
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Jimmy2020 wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 15:35
KiwiRider wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 15:07
tony1234 wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 10:07

It's greed
There has always been a plan to keep the economy bouyant after the oil runs out.
You can’t keep a State's economy buoyant by promoting boxing, mate. It's chump change.

The smarter move is too use your money to take over sport and then make sport free to air globally to promote your nation and tourism.
It's not just boxing is it though?
It's tourism, it's football, it's rally, it's whatever they can buy and host.
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Jimmy2020 wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 15:35
KiwiRider wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 15:07
tony1234 wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 10:07

It's greed
There has always been a plan to keep the economy bouyant after the oil runs out.
You can’t keep a State's economy buoyant by promoting boxing, mate. It's chump change.

The smarter move is too use your money to take over sport and then make sport free to air globally to promote your nation and tourism.
It’s a bit of a myth that Saudi Oil will run out.

There’s at least 50-100 years left as it is - and improvements to technology mean it can be consumed more efficiently - so that will be stretched significantly.

And when/if it does finally get scarce it will rocket in value and they will cash in a for couple of decades.

They are also making significant investments in renewables.

Sport is never going to make them money. They just want a better image in order to maintain trade with the West.
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DAZN are absolutely not to be trusted with this. Anyone intending to subscribe annually on the stated basis of ‘no more PPVs’ clearly has a poor memory :shame:
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 20 Jul 2025, 13:11 DAZN are absolutely not to be trusted with this. Anyone intending to subscribe annually on the stated basis of ‘no more PPVs’ clearly has a poor memory :shame:
Where you been?? Been months glad to have you back.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 20 Jul 2025, 13:52
Boxerbeetle wrote: 20 Jul 2025, 13:11 DAZN are absolutely not to be trusted with this. Anyone intending to subscribe annually on the stated basis of ‘no more PPVs’ clearly has a poor memory :shame:
Where you been?? Been months glad to have you back.
Cheers, just took a break from the site for a while, too much about boxing / politics was pissing me off tbh and I found myself getting annoyed by little things so decided to step away temporarily. Usyk pulled me back in.
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 20 Jul 2025, 13:11 DAZN are absolutely not to be trusted with this. Anyone intending to subscribe annually on the stated basis of ‘no more PPVs’ clearly has a poor memory :shame:
Read the small print, could still be other PPV's not under the Riyadh/Ring banner. If Frank W wants to put them on still he will
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Post by Twinkle Toes »

So it's a subscription to Dazn, then another subscription to Ring pass. On top of that we'll have all the promoters continuing with PPV cards when they think they can get away with it.

The Itauma/Whyte card being PPV is a typical example of what to expect.
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