Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois II | PPV - 19 July 2025

[KiwiRider]

[Alba]

The way don charles spoke to Dubois at the interview was a bit weird.

Don Charles has come across a complete END this whole fight,

[Glass Joe]

The way don charles spoke to Dubois at the interview was a bit weird.

Don Charles has come across a complete END this whole fight,

Something not right, Pushes him out of the way at weigh in, turns up late at wembley. DDD had like 25 people in his corner (according to talksport)
probably the usual gold diggers that appear once a fighter gets popular. they will all disappear now hes lost.

[paultom]

The way don charles spoke to Dubois at the interview was a bit weird.

Don Charles has come across a complete END this whole fight,

Don Charles, like Dubois was way out of his depth in the whole build up and fight, simply not clever enough to outsmart or wind up Usyk, Where were the body shots that they claimed won them the first fight ?

[samwbr]

The way don charles spoke to Dubois at the interview was a bit weird.

Don Charles has come across a complete END this whole fight,

Agreed

[samwbr]

"Thanks the audience." Jesus

Is he definitely autistic?

I don't think so. I don't think it's that. he probably does need people around him to make sure he's not taken advantage of though. could be wrong

My daughter was watching with me, her view was it seems like all those with him are taking advantage and he might not even want to fight but seems a bit pushed into it.

[Coco]

The way don charles spoke to Dubois at the interview was a bit weird.

Don Charles has come across a complete END this whole fight,

Agreed

DDD has a habit of switching trainers, switched clubs a lot in the amateurs too, especially after losses.

IMO Don Charles is already gone.

I wonder who will be next, Bowers, Tibbs, McGuigan....
Has Ben Davison had a go yet?

[jamesmcdonnell]

Is he definitely autistic?

I don't think so. I don't think it's that. he probably does need people around him to make sure he's not taken advantage of though. could be wrong

My daughter was watching with me, her view was it seems like all those with him are taking advantage and he might not even want to fight but seems a bit pushed into it.

Well his dad pretty much forced him into it, seems like a continuation of that trend

[samwbr]

Don Charles has come across a complete END this whole fight,

Agreed

DDD has a habit of switching trainers, switched clubs a lot in the amateurs too, especially after losses.

IMO Don Charles is already gone.

I wonder who will be next, Bowers, Tibbs, McGuigan....
Has Ben Davison had a go yet?

Been with Bowers hasn't he?

[MasterG]

Just got home from my long 4.5 hour drive up north from Wembley.

First time I've been to Wembley Stadium and most likely the last. Apart from the long drive it's bedlam when you have a stadium with at least 80k inside.

Anyone know the figures for the show? There was a few empty seats but if capacity was 90k then there must have been over 80k there.

Once the show was finished, it was effing bedlem. Took ma around a hour and bit to get out and get to Wembley Park station. The logistics of moving 80k people is not easy.

Overall great night, crappy seats for £126 each times 3. Around £300 spends on the night. £150 Ramada Hotel on the M1. £25 taxi to stadium, tube to Stanmore back then £12 taxi to hotel. £36 breakfast for 3. And around £70 petrol.

Very much doubt I'll do Wembley again.

[paultom]

Just got home from my long 4.5 hour drive up north from Wembley.

First time I've been to Wembley Stadium and most likely the last. Apart from the long drive it's bedlam when you have a stadium with at least 80k inside.

Anyone know the figures for the show? There was a few empty seats but if capacity was 90k then there must have been over 80k there.

Once the show was finished, it was effing bedlem. Took ma around a hour and bit to get out and get to Wembley Park station. The logistics of moving 80k people is not easy.

Overall great night, crappy seats for £126 each times 3. Around £300 spends on the night. £150 Ramada Hotel on the M1. £25 taxi to stadium, tube to Stanmore back then £12 taxi to hotel. £36 breakfast for 3. And around £70 petrol.

Very much doubt I'll do Wembley again.

Just under a grand, at least you got to see a living legend in the flesh

[Cyclops]

Just got home from my long 4.5 hour drive up north from Wembley.

First time I've been to Wembley Stadium and most likely the last. Apart from the long drive it's bedlam when you have a stadium with at least 80k inside.

Anyone know the figures for the show? There was a few empty seats but if capacity was 90k then there must have been over 80k there.

Once the show was finished, it was effing bedlem. Took ma around a hour and bit to get out and get to Wembley Park station. The logistics of moving 80k people is not easy.

Overall great night, crappy seats for £126 each times 3. Around £300 spends on the night. £150 Ramada Hotel on the M1. £25 taxi to stadium, tube to Stanmore back then £12 taxi to hotel. £36 breakfast for 3. And around £70 petrol.

Very much doubt I'll do Wembley again.

I agree: a LOT of people there. If it wasn't sold out, it certainly felt like it.

I have always come away from fights at Wembley swearing to never do it again. You're right about it being bedlam last night. People wandering around lost, traffic jams everywhere, hordes of people all over the show, the tube station entrance shut as usual, busses stuck in traffic. I only went because it was a chance to see Usyk, and the main event was exhilarating and worth the hassle. But Wembley is dreadful, and so I designated myself as driver and parked a mile up the road and walked in. Then drove home after. I would've liked to have made a day of it and watched the undercard with a few beers, but it isn't worth it.

You would think, for somewhere that regularly entertains that volume of people, it would have better public transport links. That it doesn't seems crazy to me.

I saw Usyk fight in the flesh, and that was all I wanted. The 'Wembley experience' sucks, and if I was new to it I'd be horrified too. But it's always like that.

[MasterG]

Just got home from my long 4.5 hour drive up north from Wembley.

First time I've been to Wembley Stadium and most likely the last. Apart from the long drive it's bedlam when you have a stadium with at least 80k inside.

Anyone know the figures for the show? There was a few empty seats but if capacity was 90k then there must have been over 80k there.

Once the show was finished, it was effing bedlem. Took ma around a hour and bit to get out and get to Wembley Park station. The logistics of moving 80k people is not easy.

Overall great night, crappy seats for £126 each times 3. Around £300 spends on the night. £150 Ramada Hotel on the M1. £25 taxi to stadium, tube to Stanmore back then £12 taxi to hotel. £36 breakfast for 3. And around £70 petrol.

Very much doubt I'll do Wembley again.

I agree: a LOT of people there. If it wasn't sold out, it certainly felt like it.

I have always come away from fights at Wembley swearing to never do it again. You're right about it being bedlam last night. People wandering around lost, traffic jams everywhere, hordes of people all over the show, the tube station entrance shut as usual, busses stuck in traffic. I only went because it was a chance to see Usyk, and the main event was exhilarating and worth the hassle. But Wembley is dreadful, and so I designated myself as driver and parked a mile up the road and walked in. Then drove home after. I would've liked to have made a day of it and watched the undercard with a few beers, but it isn't worth it.

You would think, for somewhere that regularly entertains that volume of people, it would have better public transport links. That it doesn't seems crazy to me.

I saw Usyk fight in the flesh, and that was all I wanted. The 'Wembley experience' sucks, and if I was new to it I'd be horrified too. But it's always like that.

I've never been in a traffic light system for people before. In all honesty I've never seen so many people in one group before. From the stadium steps to Wembley Park station it was just a mass of people. You cannot imagine what it's like if you weren't there. If there was a medical emergency I do t know what would happen.

Honestly it was a sight to see, I dont think I'll be ever in a circumstance where so many people are stood still waiting for the signal to move forward again.

My thought at one point was, is this what it was like walking to Auchvists?

[Coco]

Agreed

DDD has a habit of switching trainers, switched clubs a lot in the amateurs too, especially after losses.

IMO Don Charles is already gone.

I wonder who will be next, Bowers, Tibbs, McGuigan....
Has Ben Davison had a go yet?

Been with Bowers hasn't he?

And Tibbs and McGuigan

[samwbr]

DDD has a habit of switching trainers, switched clubs a lot in the amateurs too, especially after losses.

IMO Don Charles is already gone.

I wonder who will be next, Bowers, Tibbs, McGuigan....
Has Ben Davison had a go yet?

Been with Bowers hasn't he?

And Tibbs and McGuigan

Think Shane saved his career in the Lerena fight.

[Cyclops]

Just got home from my long 4.5 hour drive up north from Wembley.

First time I've been to Wembley Stadium and most likely the last. Apart from the long drive it's bedlam when you have a stadium with at least 80k inside.

Anyone know the figures for the show? There was a few empty seats but if capacity was 90k then there must have been over 80k there.

Once the show was finished, it was effing bedlem. Took ma around a hour and bit to get out and get to Wembley Park station. The logistics of moving 80k people is not easy.

Overall great night, crappy seats for £126 each times 3. Around £300 spends on the night. £150 Ramada Hotel on the M1. £25 taxi to stadium, tube to Stanmore back then £12 taxi to hotel. £36 breakfast for 3. And around £70 petrol.

Very much doubt I'll do Wembley again.

I agree: a LOT of people there. If it wasn't sold out, it certainly felt like it.

I have always come away from fights at Wembley swearing to never do it again. You're right about it being bedlam last night. People wandering around lost, traffic jams everywhere, hordes of people all over the show, the tube station entrance shut as usual, busses stuck in traffic. I only went because it was a chance to see Usyk, and the main event was exhilarating and worth the hassle. But Wembley is dreadful, and so I designated myself as driver and parked a mile up the road and walked in. Then drove home after. I would've liked to have made a day of it and watched the undercard with a few beers, but it isn't worth it.

You would think, for somewhere that regularly entertains that volume of people, it would have better public transport links. That it doesn't seems crazy to me.

I saw Usyk fight in the flesh, and that was all I wanted. The 'Wembley experience' sucks, and if I was new to it I'd be horrified too. But it's always like that.

I've never been in a traffic light system for people before. In all honesty I've never seen so many people in one group before. From the stadium steps to Wembley Park station it was just a mass of people. You cannot imagine what it's like if you weren't there. If there was a medical emergency I do t know what would happen.

Honestly it was a sight to see, I dont think I'll be ever in a circumstance where so many people are stood still waiting for the signal to move forward again.

My thought at one point was, is this what it was like walking to Auchvists?

Nah. There was less cocaine and lager and a lot more trains.

The average UK Town has a population of 75,000. Once you start thinking about that volume of people all moving at once in the same direction, it gives you an idea of the enormity of it.

[samwbr]

Just got home from my long 4.5 hour drive up north from Wembley.

First time I've been to Wembley Stadium and most likely the last. Apart from the long drive it's bedlam when you have a stadium with at least 80k inside.

Anyone know the figures for the show? There was a few empty seats but if capacity was 90k then there must have been over 80k there.

Once the show was finished, it was effing bedlem. Took ma around a hour and bit to get out and get to Wembley Park station. The logistics of moving 80k people is not easy.

Overall great night, crappy seats for £126 each times 3. Around £300 spends on the night. £150 Ramada Hotel on the M1. £25 taxi to stadium, tube to Stanmore back then £12 taxi to hotel. £36 breakfast for 3. And around £70 petrol.

Very much doubt I'll do Wembley again.

I agree: a LOT of people there. If it wasn't sold out, it certainly felt like it.

I have always come away from fights at Wembley swearing to never do it again. You're right about it being bedlam last night. People wandering around lost, traffic jams everywhere, hordes of people all over the show, the tube station entrance shut as usual, busses stuck in traffic. I only went because it was a chance to see Usyk, and the main event was exhilarating and worth the hassle. But Wembley is dreadful, and so I designated myself as driver and parked a mile up the road and walked in. Then drove home after. I would've liked to have made a day of it and watched the undercard with a few beers, but it isn't worth it.

You would think, for somewhere that regularly entertains that volume of people, it would have better public transport links. That it doesn't seems crazy to me.

I saw Usyk fight in the flesh, and that was all I wanted. The 'Wembley experience' sucks, and if I was new to it I'd be horrified too. But it's always like that.

I've never been in a traffic light system for people before. In all honesty I've never seen so many people in one group before. From the stadium steps to Wembley Park station it was just a mass of people. You cannot imagine what it's like if you weren't there. If there was a medical emergency I do t know what would happen.

Honestly it was a sight to see, I dont think I'll be ever in a circumstance where so many people are stood still waiting for the signal to move forward again.

My thought at one point was, is this what it was like walking to Auchvists?

They do it at every football match, have to or it would be carnage.

[a force]

I think the dad is a big problem. Reading between the lines the split with Shane McGuigan came due to the dad’s involvement. I don’t think Charles has done a bad job at all but from listening to his interview with Tris Dixon I got the impression he only got the job on the condition that the dad has a lot of involvement.

[Cyclops]

I agree: a LOT of people there. If it wasn't sold out, it certainly felt like it.

I have always come away from fights at Wembley swearing to never do it again. You're right about it being bedlam last night. People wandering around lost, traffic jams everywhere, hordes of people all over the show, the tube station entrance shut as usual, busses stuck in traffic. I only went because it was a chance to see Usyk, and the main event was exhilarating and worth the hassle. But Wembley is dreadful, and so I designated myself as driver and parked a mile up the road and walked in. Then drove home after. I would've liked to have made a day of it and watched the undercard with a few beers, but it isn't worth it.

You would think, for somewhere that regularly entertains that volume of people, it would have better public transport links. That it doesn't seems crazy to me.

I saw Usyk fight in the flesh, and that was all I wanted. The 'Wembley experience' sucks, and if I was new to it I'd be horrified too. But it's always like that.

I've never been in a traffic light system for people before. In all honesty I've never seen so many people in one group before. From the stadium steps to Wembley Park station it was just a mass of people. You cannot imagine what it's like if you weren't there. If there was a medical emergency I do t know what would happen.

Honestly it was a sight to see, I dont think I'll be ever in a circumstance where so many people are stood still waiting for the signal to move forward again.

My thought at one point was, is this what it was like walking to Auchvists?

They do it at every football match, have to or it would be carnage.

Radical I know, but I think they should probably do these big stadium fights in the late afternoon, as opposed to a 22:00 start for the PPV punters. It doesn't hurt the football it being on during the day, does it? And you wouldn't have everyone desperately trying to make the last couple of trains at the same time? People could just amble about and hit some of the boozers in Wembley, or go out on the town somewhere else: see the sights. It would just be a lot less chaotic.

On the floor, I see security running about to sort out trouble and some little roided-up cokehead Asian lad, Bengali or something, getting turfed out just before the main event. Crazy. He must've paid a decent wedge to even be in the area he was being kicked out from, only to not even see the fight.

If you herd all these casuals into a soulless arena for 6 something hours where all there is to do is drink and watch Lawrence fornicating Okolie then you get this kind of stuff. Just have 2 undercard fights, the main event, over by 6PM, everyone gets home safe.

[golden_labrador]

Is he definitely autistic?

I don't think so. I don't think it's that. he probably does need people around him to make sure he's not taken advantage of though. could be wrong

My daughter was watching with me, her view was it seems like all those with him are taking advantage and he might not even want to fight but seems a bit pushed into it.

agree

[Frostieballs]

I don't think so. I don't think it's that. he probably does need people around him to make sure he's not taken advantage of though. could be wrong

My daughter was watching with me, her view was it seems like all those with him are taking advantage and he might not even want to fight but seems a bit pushed into it.

agree

My partner said the same. It’s like he isn’t really sure what is going on - and is pushed out into the spotlight by others then left to fend for himself.

[margaret thatcher]

i wonder if daniel likes the rabbits

[golden_labrador]

i wonder if daniel likes the rabbits

don't push the horses

[CaptainSpacerod]

Just got home from my long 4.5 hour drive up north from Wembley.

First time I've been to Wembley Stadium and most likely the last. Apart from the long drive it's bedlam when you have a stadium with at least 80k inside.

Anyone know the figures for the show? There was a few empty seats but if capacity was 90k then there must have been over 80k there.

Once the show was finished, it was effing bedlem. Took ma around a hour and bit to get out and get to Wembley Park station. The logistics of moving 80k people is not easy.

Overall great night, crappy seats for £126 each times 3. Around £300 spends on the night. £150 Ramada Hotel on the M1. £25 taxi to stadium, tube to Stanmore back then £12 taxi to hotel. £36 breakfast for 3. And around £70 petrol.

Very much doubt I'll do Wembley again.

I agree: a LOT of people there. If it wasn't sold out, it certainly felt like it.

I have always come away from fights at Wembley swearing to never do it again. You're right about it being bedlam last night. People wandering around lost, traffic jams everywhere, hordes of people all over the show, the tube station entrance shut as usual, busses stuck in traffic. I only went because it was a chance to see Usyk, and the main event was exhilarating and worth the hassle. But Wembley is dreadful, and so I designated myself as driver and parked a mile up the road and walked in. Then drove home after. I would've liked to have made a day of it and watched the undercard with a few beers, but it isn't worth it.

You would think, for somewhere that regularly entertains that volume of people, it would have better public transport links. That it doesn't seems crazy to me.

I saw Usyk fight in the flesh, and that was all I wanted. The 'Wembley experience' sucks, and if I was new to it I'd be horrified too. But it's always like that.

I've never been in a traffic light system for people before. In all honesty I've never seen so many people in one group before. From the stadium steps to Wembley Park station it was just a mass of people. You cannot imagine what it's like if you weren't there. If there was a medical emergency I do t know what would happen.

Honestly it was a sight to see, I dont think I'll be ever in a circumstance where so many people are stood still waiting for the signal to move forward again.

My thought at one point was, is this what it was like walking to Auchvists?

Been there about 20 times in the last decade or so watching City and it’s just as you describe it every time. Wembley Park after a match or an event isn’t for the faint hearted. I always feel sorry for the poor folk who are working at the station.

[Coco]

I agree: a LOT of people there. If it wasn't sold out, it certainly felt like it.

I have always come away from fights at Wembley swearing to never do it again. You're right about it being bedlam last night. People wandering around lost, traffic jams everywhere, hordes of people all over the show, the tube station entrance shut as usual, busses stuck in traffic. I only went because it was a chance to see Usyk, and the main event was exhilarating and worth the hassle. But Wembley is dreadful, and so I designated myself as driver and parked a mile up the road and walked in. Then drove home after. I would've liked to have made a day of it and watched the undercard with a few beers, but it isn't worth it.

You would think, for somewhere that regularly entertains that volume of people, it would have better public transport links. That it doesn't seems crazy to me.

I saw Usyk fight in the flesh, and that was all I wanted. The 'Wembley experience' sucks, and if I was new to it I'd be horrified too. But it's always like that.

I've never been in a traffic light system for people before. In all honesty I've never seen so many people in one group before. From the stadium steps to Wembley Park station it was just a mass of people. You cannot imagine what it's like if you weren't there. If there was a medical emergency I do t know what would happen.

Honestly it was a sight to see, I dont think I'll be ever in a circumstance where so many people are stood still waiting for the signal to move forward again.

My thought at one point was, is this what it was like walking to Auchvists?

Been there about 20 times in the last decade or so watching City and it’s just as you describe it every time. Wembley Park after a match or an event isn’t for the faint hearted. I always feel sorry for the poor folk who are working at the station.

Went to the old wembley as a kid, been to lots of football matches too, always really enjoyed, but what you are describing sounds horrific