Oleksandr Usyk vs. Joseph Parker - WBO Ordered

[keithmoonhangover]

There are a lot of people saying that for a road warrior he seems very reluctant to face Fury in the UK.

Not sure why they are saying that. He beat Fury twice on neutral ground and has boxed four Brits is England. Probably casuals mate, just ignore them.

[joshj909]

There are a lot of people saying that for a road warrior he seems very reluctant to face Fury in the UK.

Not sure why they are saying that. He beat Fury twice on neutral ground and has boxed four Brits is England. Probably casuals mate, just ignore them.

Nobody is saying it. It's just Mickey saying it. Fury has been dropped and considered retired by all four alphabet organizations, he hasn't had a win over a boxer in 3 years, is arguably on a three fight skid after robbing the debutant novice Ngannou, Usyk has already decisively beat him twice and with limited fights left due to his age the fans definitely want fresh fights after these unnecessary rematches.

Usyk facing Fury in England would only give Fury the advantage of the biased home crowd influencing the judges to falsely giving Fury rounds so if that's what Fury needs to win he clearly doesn't deserve it.

[mickey1975]

There are a lot of people saying that for a road warrior he seems very reluctant to face Fury in the UK.

Not sure why they are saying that. He beat Fury twice on neutral ground and has boxed four Brits is England. Probably casuals mate, just ignore them.

Nobody is saying it. It's just Mickey saying it. Fury has been dropped and considered retired by all four alphabet organizations, he hasn't had a win over a boxer in 3 years, is arguably on a three fight skid after robbing the debutant novice Ngannou, Usyk has already decisively beat him twice and with limited fights left due to his age the fans definitely want fresh fights after these unnecessary rematches.

Usyk facing Fury in England would only give Fury the advantage of the biased home crowd influencing the judges to falsely giving Fury rounds so if that's what Fury needs to win he clearly doesn't deserve it.

He is the Ring heavyweight number 1 contender...
I guess you don't rate Usyk then if a past it Tyson gave him two real hard workouts?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Not sure why they are saying that. He beat Fury twice on neutral ground and has boxed four Brits is England. Probably casuals mate, just ignore them.

Nobody is saying it. It's just Mickey saying it. Fury has been dropped and considered retired by all four alphabet organizations, he hasn't had a win over a boxer in 3 years, is arguably on a three fight skid after robbing the debutant novice Ngannou, Usyk has already decisively beat him twice and with limited fights left due to his age the fans definitely want fresh fights after these unnecessary rematches.

Usyk facing Fury in England would only give Fury the advantage of the biased home crowd influencing the judges to falsely giving Fury rounds so if that's what Fury needs to win he clearly doesn't deserve it.

He is the Ring heavyweight number 1 contender...
I guess you don't rate Usyk then if a past it Tyson gave him two real hard workouts?

He’s not really number 1 contender. He’s just talked 2nd.

He hasn’t done anything to earn a 3rd fight.


He lost. The lost again.

[Coco]

But realistically who has a better chance of beating Uysk?

[joshj909]

But realistically who has a better chance of beating Uysk?

Realistically, anyone that hasn't faced him and already lost once or twice

[mickey1975]

Nobody is saying it. It's just Mickey saying it. Fury has been dropped and considered retired by all four alphabet organizations, he hasn't had a win over a boxer in 3 years, is arguably on a three fight skid after robbing the debutant novice Ngannou, Usyk has already decisively beat him twice and with limited fights left due to his age the fans definitely want fresh fights after these unnecessary rematches.

Usyk facing Fury in England would only give Fury the advantage of the biased home crowd influencing the judges to falsely giving Fury rounds so if that's what Fury needs to win he clearly doesn't deserve it.

He is the Ring heavyweight number 1 contender...
I guess you don't rate Usyk then if a past it Tyson gave him two real hard workouts?

He’s not really number 1 contender. He’s just talked 2nd.

He hasn’t done anything to earn a 3rd fight.


He lost. The lost again.

He is literally the number one contender for the Ring belt. You've no doubt posted their rankings somewhere on the forum.

[margaret thatcher]

ring title and tyson fury, still lovers after all these years and losses

[joshj909]

He is the Ring heavyweight number 1 contender...
I guess you don't rate Usyk then if a past it Tyson gave him two real hard workouts?

He’s not really number 1 contender. He’s just talked 2nd.

He hasn’t done anything to earn a 3rd fight.


He lost. The lost again.

He is literally the number one contender for the Ring belt. You've no doubt posted their rankings somewhere on the forum.

Unless Turki is trying to make it a legitimate belt, there isn't a number one contender for the ring belt. It has no mandatories... It's a novelty trinket, somehow moreso than the other heavyweight belts because it's awarded by a magazine rather than a sanctioning body.

[Coco]

But realistically who has a better chance of beating Uysk?

Realistically, anyone that hasn't faced him and already lost once or twice

So who are the next in line? Parker, Wardley, Kabayel. okolie, Bakole. Hrgoviv, Ajagba, Pulev, Hunk, Joyce or Chisora?

[Ruthless-RKO]

ring title and tyson fury, still lovers after all these years and losses

Don’t forget the Lineal belt.

[margaret thatcher]

But realistically who has a better chance of beating Uysk?

Realistically, anyone that hasn't faced him and already lost once or twice

So who are the next in line? Parker, Wardley, Kabayel. okolie, Bakole. Hrgoviv, Ajagba, Pulev, Hunk, Joyce or Chisora?

sure, let's have any of those first 3 for example rather than yet another rematch or threematch, cant believe people would really want another of those

[Coco]

Realistically, anyone that hasn't faced him and already lost once or twice

So who are the next in line? Parker, Wardley, Kabayel. okolie, Bakole. Hrgoviv, Ajagba, Pulev, Hunk, Joyce or Chisora?

sure, let's have any of those first 3 for example rather than yet another rematch or threematch, cant believe people would really want another of those

I'm not saying what I would prefer to see, I am saying who is more likely to win

Other than Fury, who would be the underdog, the rest have little chance of winning

[margaret thatcher]

So who are the next in line? Parker, Wardley, Kabayel. okolie, Bakole. Hrgoviv, Ajagba, Pulev, Hunk, Joyce or Chisora?

sure, let's have any of those first 3 for example rather than yet another rematch or threematch, cant believe people would really want another of those

I'm not saying what I would prefer to see, I am saying who is more likely to win

Other than Fury, who would be the underdog, the rest have little chance of winning

kabayel's body attack is the best in the division and could give usyk problems and slow him down, parker's hands are arguably a bit faster than usyks and could be more of an issue than the size of the giants usyk has been facing. wardley is raw but has that bomb.


i think usyk has solved fury, only likely to beat him more convincingly. he hasnt solved some of these other guys. im not convinced fury has the best shot still

[mickey1975]

He’s not really number 1 contender. He’s just talked 2nd.

He hasn’t done anything to earn a 3rd fight.


He lost. The lost again.

He is literally the number one contender for the Ring belt. You've no doubt posted their rankings somewhere on the forum.

Unless Turki is trying to make it a legitimate belt, there isn't a number one contender for the ring belt. It has no mandatories... It's a novelty trinket, somehow moreso than the other heavyweight belts because it's awarded by a magazine rather than a sanctioning body.

Mate, I could pull up thousands of posts from almost everybody who all agree The Ring are the only respected ratings, it's been that way for years.

[margaret thatcher]

ring title and tyson fury, still lovers after all these years and losses

Don’t forget the Lineal belt.

[mickey1975]

Realistically, anyone that hasn't faced him and already lost once or twice

So who are the next in line? Parker, Wardley, Kabayel. okolie, Bakole. Hrgoviv, Ajagba, Pulev, Hunk, Joyce or Chisora?

sure, let's have any of those first 3 for example rather than yet another rematch or threematch, cant believe people would really want another of those

If people don't want to see it, it won't happen. They'll go with whatever brings the most numbers. Can't you believe it won't be Okolie and co?

[margaret thatcher]

we need that alternative ending where fury and wilder ride off into the sunset together, hand in hand, the two best hws of the generation

[keithmoonhangover]

He is literally the number one contender for the Ring belt. You've no doubt posted their rankings somewhere on the forum.

Unless Turki is trying to make it a legitimate belt, there isn't a number one contender for the ring belt. It has no mandatories... It's a novelty trinket, somehow moreso than the other heavyweight belts because it's awarded by a magazine rather than a sanctioning body.

Mate, I could pull up thousands of posts from almost everybody who all agree The Ring are the only respected ratings, it's been that way for years.

These are the best and least biased rankings out there. They are voted for by more than 50 industry insiders.

https://tbrb.org/mens-rankings

[Ruthless-RKO]

Unless Turki is trying to make it a legitimate belt, there isn't a number one contender for the ring belt. It has no mandatories... It's a novelty trinket, somehow moreso than the other heavyweight belts because it's awarded by a magazine rather than a sanctioning body.

Mate, I could pull up thousands of posts from almost everybody who all agree The Ring are the only respected ratings, it's been that way for years.

These are the best and least biased rankings out there. They are voted for by more than 50 industry insiders.

https://tbrb.org/mens-rankings

Yh I follow TBRB

[joshj909]

So who are the next in line? Parker, Wardley, Kabayel. okolie, Bakole. Hrgoviv, Ajagba, Pulev, Hunk, Joyce or Chisora?

sure, let's have any of those first 3 for example rather than yet another rematch or threematch, cant believe people would really want another of those

I'm not saying what I would prefer to see, I am saying who is more likely to win

Other than Fury, who would be the underdog, the rest have little chance of winning

The ones that ask the most questions seeing as Usyk has answered all questions that Fury, Dubois and Joshua have thrown at him. Those are juiced-Parker, Kabayel, Wardley, Jalolov, Torrez and Itauma. Do they win? Unlikely. Do they ask questions that Usyk hasn't had the opportunity to answer and therefore giving them a better chance than someone that was unable to defeat him twice? Yes.

[joshj909]

He is literally the number one contender for the Ring belt. You've no doubt posted their rankings somewhere on the forum.

Unless Turki is trying to make it a legitimate belt, there isn't a number one contender for the ring belt. It has no mandatories... It's a novelty trinket, somehow moreso than the other heavyweight belts because it's awarded by a magazine rather than a sanctioning body.

Mate, I could pull up thousands of posts from almost everybody who all agree The Ring are the only respected ratings, it's been that way for years.

Yes but they're not an official belt and don't have mandatories. The rankings can be good but they're no different from our rankings in the forum. Also, the champ has beaten the highest ranked Ring opponent twice in a row and that opponent hasn't faced anyone else since, obviously number 2 or even 3 gets a shot, right? Or does Usyk keep facing Fury until The Ring (Turki) decide they've seen enough?

[mickey1975]

Unless Turki is trying to make it a legitimate belt, there isn't a number one contender for the ring belt. It has no mandatories... It's a novelty trinket, somehow moreso than the other heavyweight belts because it's awarded by a magazine rather than a sanctioning body.

Mate, I could pull up thousands of posts from almost everybody who all agree The Ring are the only respected ratings, it's been that way for years.

Yes but they're not an official belt and don't have mandatories. The rankings can be good but they're no different from our rankings in the forum. Also, the champ has beaten the highest ranked Ring opponent twice in a row and that opponent hasn't faced anyone else since, obviously number 2 or even 3 gets a shot, right? Or does Usyk keep facing Fury until The Ring (Turki) decide they've seen enough?

Ok, stick with the official bodies. Okolie is less worthy than CBS for a shot at Usyk.

[KiwiRider]

I have recently rewatched Kayabel vs Zhang/Big Mak/Sanchez and he stopped all three. Usually when heavies step up, they don't get as many stoppages, but Kayabel is the real deal.
I rate him as the #2 heavyweight right now.

If anyone challenges Uysk - it's him.

[Coco]

I have recently rewatched Kayabel vs Zhang/Big Mak/Sanchez and he stopped all three. Usually when heavies step up, they don't get as many stoppages, but Kayabel is the real deal.
I rate him as the #2 heavyweight right now.

If anyone challenges Uysk - it's him.

That would be the most interesting for me