BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Itauma / Whyte / Hrgovic / Adeleye

[Ruthless-RKO]

Current ranking:
Oleksandr Usyk - 24(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

2. Joseph Parker - 36(24) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

3. Agit Kabayel - 26(18) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

4. Tyson Fury - 34(24) 2(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. Daniel Dubois - 22(21) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 4(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Filip Hrgovic - 19(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. Zhilei Zhang - 25(22) 3(1) 1 - next fight: TBA

9. Efe Ajagba - 20(14) 1(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

10. Martin Bakole - 21(16) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

11. Fabio Wardley - 18(17) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

12. Frank Sanchez - 25(18) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

13 Derek Chisora - 36(23) 13(4) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Richard Torrez Jr. - 13(11) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

15. Justis Huni - 12(7) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

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We’re voting on Dillian Whyte, Moses Itauma, Filip Hrgovic and David Adeleye. Where are they moving?

Only Hrgovic was currently ranked by us.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Make voting easy for me to calculate as per below.

Example:

Hrgovic to #6
Whyte remains out
Adeleye remains out
Itauma remains out

^^^^

Then you can have your rationale

[joshj909]

Hrgovic down to #10.
Itauma to #14
Whyte and Adeleye remain OUT

Btw, Joshua should be out due to inactivity so there will be a vacat spot to fill which will likely be Itauma.

1. Usyk
2. Parker
3. Kabayel
4. Dubois
5. Ajagba
6. Torrez
7. Wardley
8. Bakole
9. Chisora
10. Hrgovic
11. Zhang
12. Vianello
13. Hunter
14. Itauma
15. Huni

[Ruthless-RKO]

You wanna drop Hrgv on a win?

[Perkin Warbeck]

Hrgovic to #6
Itauma in at #10

Whyte remains out
Adeleye remains out

It's not just that Itauma won, but how impressively he won. Sure, Whyte is faded and was never great, but he was never taken out so easily in round one in the past. For me, Itauma is clearly already a top 10 heavyweight contender.

[joshj909]

You wanna drop Hrgv on a win?

He should've been lower before as Joyce is his only recent relevant win plus historic win over Zhang. Beating Adeleye by decision is nothing more than a stay busy fight against a lower level opponent which doesn't make him move anywhere for me so moving him down would just be correcting the list.

[Manos de Blancmange]

Hrgovic to #6, Itauma to #12, Whyte and Adeleye remain out.

[Thomastearns]

A good result for Hrgovic, as well as looking more lean and mean, he can now replace Joyce as having the best chin in the HW division.

Zhang did put Hrgovic down, but then Zhang tends to put everyone he faces down. Zhang's trouble is usually keeping them down.

The brave Adeleye not only survived getting outboxed for 10 rounds, he still managed to catch Hrgovic with some good shots in the process.

On another night that cut below the eye could have been a disaster.

It will be interesting to see whether Hrgovic can learn and improve from last night's performance.

If he wants to be champion, he will need to, but I'm far from convinced that Abel Sanchez is the right man to tighten up his or anyone's defences.

For now, Hrgovic at 7, seems fair enough.

[gilgamesh]

1. Joseph Parker
2. Agit Kabayel
3. Tyson Fury
4. Daniel Dubois
5. Anthony Joshua
6. Filip Hrgovic
7. Moses Itauma
8. Fabio Wardley
9. Richard Torrez Jr.
10. Dereck Chisora
11. Martin Bakole
12. Efe Ajagba
13. Kubrat Pulev
14. Andy Ruiz
15. Zhilei Zhang

[Ruthless-RKO]

1. Joseph Parker
2. Agit Kabayel
3. Tyson Fury
4. Daniel Dubois
5. Anthony Joshua
6. Filip Hrgovic
7. Moses Itauma
8. Fabio Wardley
9. Richard Torrez Jr.
10. Dereck Chisora
11. Martin Bakole
12. Efe Ajagba
13. Kubrat Pulev
14. Andy Ruiz
15. Zhilei Zhang

I’m assuming Usyk is the C above this list

[gilgamesh]

1. Joseph Parker
2. Agit Kabayel
3. Tyson Fury
4. Daniel Dubois
5. Anthony Joshua
6. Filip Hrgovic
7. Moses Itauma
8. Fabio Wardley
9. Richard Torrez Jr.
10. Dereck Chisora
11. Martin Bakole
12. Efe Ajagba
13. Kubrat Pulev
14. Andy Ruiz
15. Zhilei Zhang

I’m assuming Usyk is the C above this list

Of course. He's undisputed Champion. These are his contenders.

[Coachmanager]

Hrgovic #7
Itauma #9

[tiny_acres]

Hrgovic #7
Itauma #8

Whyte and Adaleye remain out

[gregregegg]

I want Moses above frank sanchez but bellow torrez jr…. But that’s not possible. So Moses to 12, soz torrez.

[KiwiRider]

No change.

I believe Hrg wasn't challenged by Adeleye, the worst British HW 'champ' in years, just the cut.
And much as I'd like Itauma to debut on our list, blasting out the ghost of Dillian Whyte in 120 seconds doesn't cut it.
I believe all the guys in our top 15 would have done the same, but maybe not as quickly. Whyte was a patsy to get a name on Itauma's resume, nothing more.
Don't buy into the hype until you have seen Itauma face a live challenger.

[KiwiRider]

BoxRec puts Itauma at #19 based on their algorithm

[Contendeh]

Filip stays where he’s at.
Moses debuts at 12 everyone moves back one which kicks out Huni

[joshj909]

I want Moses above frank sanchez but bellow torrez jr…. But that’s not possible. So Moses to 12, soz torrez.

Sanchez and Joshua shouldn't be in these rankings

[margaret thatcher]

please gawd rate moses ahead of sanchez, frank shouldnt be here let alone at 12

[margaret thatcher]

hrg 6
moses 8


i really was not impressed by hrg his last two fights but at least he's kept winning and sometimes vs a name we recognize, a lotta guys who even may be better than him are just hanging around without winning much


i do think moses 1-2 ko round ko streak is over flattering him, but i still rate him and he's staying busy and winning

[gilgamesh]

To the people that would rate Richard Torrez over Moses Itauma I'm genuinely curious as to why. They have the same amount of fights, The same amount of wins and KO's, and Itauma's biggest win is much bigger than the biggest win for Torrez.

That goes for a lot of the guys in the bottom half of the Top 10 honestly. Even guys like Bakole. What's Bakole's best win Jared Anderson? Add to the fact he's 0-1-1 in the last year while Itauma is of course on a winning streak.

I get it that it may seem crazy to some to already have Itauma in the Top 10, but who honestly has a better win than his win over Whyte other than the guys at the very top?

[margaret thatcher]

To the people that would rate Richard Torrez over Moses Itauma I'm genuinely curious as to why. They have the same amount of fights, The same amount of wins and KO's, and Itauma's biggest win is much bigger than the biggest win for Torrez.

That goes for a lot of the guys in the bottom half of the Top 10 honestly. Even guys like Bakole. What's Bakole's best win Jared Anderson? Add to the fact he's 0-1-1 in the last year while Itauma is of course on a winning streak.

I get it that it may seem crazy to some to already have Itauma in the Top 10, but who honestly has a better win than his win over Whyte other than the guys at the very top?

well i do rate moses high and have him over those guys, but for me that's more about consistent accumulation of good showings rather than this whtye win itself. i think whyte was pretty cooked by the time they fought. did you see his last win? i think anderson and even vianello would beat him today. i fully expected a 1-2 round ko and for whyte to spagetti leg as soon as he was hit. and lots of people were saying this before the bout, not simply after . the timing of this matchmaking was done all for to make moses shine.

whyte wasnt even in our top 15 anymore and his legs are gone. he is still a better scalp than many of the rated guys are getting lately, so staying active with the win boosts moses still, but beating whyte now is far from what it would used to be

[gregregegg]

To the people that would rate Richard Torrez over Moses Itauma I'm genuinely curious as to why. They have the same amount of fights, The same amount of wins and KO's, and Itauma's biggest win is much bigger than the biggest win for Torrez.

That goes for a lot of the guys in the bottom half of the Top 10 honestly. Even guys like Bakole. What's Bakole's best win Jared Anderson? Add to the fact he's 0-1-1 in the last year while Itauma is of course on a winning streak.

I get it that it may seem crazy to some to already have Itauma in the Top 10, but who honestly has a better win than his win over Whyte other than the guys at the very top?

The Guido that torrez beat would of easily KO'd the Whyte that Moses fought. Moses looks better and most likely is better.... but an Olympic medal (I know its ams) and a superior best win means for me I am ok with torrez remaining above for now.

[gilgamesh]

To the people that would rate Richard Torrez over Moses Itauma I'm genuinely curious as to why. They have the same amount of fights, The same amount of wins and KO's, and Itauma's biggest win is much bigger than the biggest win for Torrez.

That goes for a lot of the guys in the bottom half of the Top 10 honestly. Even guys like Bakole. What's Bakole's best win Jared Anderson? Add to the fact he's 0-1-1 in the last year while Itauma is of course on a winning streak.

I get it that it may seem crazy to some to already have Itauma in the Top 10, but who honestly has a better win than his win over Whyte other than the guys at the very top?

The Guido that torrez beat would of easily KO'd the Whyte that Moses fought. Moses looks better and most likely is better.... but an Olympic medal (I know its ams) and a superior best win means for me I am ok with torrez remaining above for now.

While I don't doubt that the Guido that Torrez beat would've beaten the Whyte that Moses fought. Fact of the matter is that's all just speculation, and Guido's highest heights fall well short of Whyte's.

[gregregegg]

To the people that would rate Richard Torrez over Moses Itauma I'm genuinely curious as to why. They have the same amount of fights, The same amount of wins and KO's, and Itauma's biggest win is much bigger than the biggest win for Torrez.

That goes for a lot of the guys in the bottom half of the Top 10 honestly. Even guys like Bakole. What's Bakole's best win Jared Anderson? Add to the fact he's 0-1-1 in the last year while Itauma is of course on a winning streak.

I get it that it may seem crazy to some to already have Itauma in the Top 10, but who honestly has a better win than his win over Whyte other than the guys at the very top?

The Guido that torrez beat would of easily KO'd the Whyte that Moses fought. Moses looks better and most likely is better.... but an Olympic medal (I know its ams) and a superior best win means for me I am ok with torrez remaining above for now.

While I don't doubt that the Guido that Torrez beat would've beaten the Whyte that Moses fought. Fact of the matter is that's all just speculation, and Guido's highest heights fall well short of Whyte's.

well lets vote Jake paul in then because we all know Mike Tyson reached higher heights than Whyte....

Its speculation but its confident fairly universally accepted speculation...