Jake Paul vs. Gervonta Davis | NETFLIX - November 14, 2025 (OFF)

[joshj909]

Also, if Netflix wants to legitimately enter the boxing game, this isn't how to do it. They can't be taken seriously if they're mostly showing influencer stuff for teenagers.

[gilgamesh]

Also, if Netflix wants to legitimately enter the boxing game, this isn't how to do it. They can't be taken seriously if they're mostly showing influencer stuff for teenagers.

They may have mistakenly come to believe that Jake Paul is a huge draw without realizing that almost all of the appeal with Tyson vs Jake Paul was in Tyson.

I figure this will do less than 25% of the views the Tyson thing did.

[KiwiRider]

Hopefully there will be some real boxing on the undercard because this has the potential to garner a massive audience.
Neither guy has been in a boring fight so maybe it turns up some new fans.

[joshj909]

Hopefully there will be some real boxing on the undercard because this has the potential to garner a massive audience.
Neither guy has been in a boring fight so maybe it turns up some new fans.

No doubt it will be many women's fights from Paul's MVP promotions. He does have nearly all of the top female p4p boxers now doesn't he? So there must be some actual worthwhile ones. Hopefully some other top fights too. I still won't watch the main event but I'll watch a good fight if there is one on the undercard

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Also, if Netflix wants to legitimately enter the boxing game, this isn't how to do it. They can't be taken seriously if they're mostly showing influencer stuff for teenagers.

They have no desire to "legitimately enter the boxing game", they are interested in shows that people will pay money for. Teenagers and Jake Paul fans are a bigger market than legitimate boxing followers. If Jake Paul had decided to take up tennis instead they would be showing him taking on 66 year old John McEnroe in challenge matches.

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[IKSRTFO]

If they found someone where to sanction it, and made it a pro fight then I would actualy be on board with this… just for the freak curiosity.

One of the best 150lb person to ever punch vs one of the most mediocre 200lb people to ever punch….

One of best 150lb fighters to ever punch?

Tank you mean? You have a guy who’s only fought at 135 hitting harder than anyone at 140, 147 and 154

What he means is Tank likely walks in the ring weighing 150.

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Jake Paul-Gervonta Davis was ‘always the plan,’ says MVP CEO

Most Valuable Promotions CEO Nakisa Bidarian said it was “always the plan” for Jake Paul to fight lightweight titlist Gervonta “Tank” Davis in November, despite talk of a matchup with former heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua. However, he said the intent is for the latter contest to come to fruition early in 2026.

Boxing Scene’s Matt Christie reported earlier today that, despite the Davis announcement, "negotiations continue” for Paul-Joshua for early 2026, and Bidarian confirmed that reporting.

“There are articles out there saying, ‘Oh, AJ, couldn't get done, so they decided to fight Tank.’ No. Tank has always been the plan for 2025,” Bidarian told Boxing Scene on Thursday at the Caribe Royale in Orlando, where MVP will be staging back-to-back fight nights on Friday and Saturday.

According to Bidarian, Paul’s sequence of fights since facing 58-year-old Mike Tyson at AT&T Stadium in November has unfolded as a result of Saul “Canelo” Alvarez abandoning discussions for a fight with the YouTuber-turned-boxer in favor of signing a four-fight deal with Riyadh Season.

“Canelo was the initial plan,” explained Bidarian. “And once that didn't work out, we came to an agreement with Tank and his team very quickly on this opportunity. And from the outset, if you go back, when Jake came out regarding AJ, he said 2026. And Eddie [Hearn] said, ‘Oh, if you really want to do it, it should be 2025,’ and we said no; 2026 is the timing for this. That's when Jake will be ready. One, because Jake needs more time and more experience – the more, the better. But two, because we already had a fight planned for November of this year. It isn't like we just came up with an idea and went to Netflix. We've had this deal baked for a very long time.”

That said, the plan was nearly upended when Davis escaped with a draw against Lamont Roach Jnr in March, although Bidarian insisted that the result itself would not necessarily have been an obstacle to Paul and Davis facing off.

“There wasn't any requirement for him to win, lose or draw,” he said of Davis against Roach. “The potential spanner in the works was Tank coming to a decision: either, ‘Hey, I want to either run the rematch first’ or ‘Hey, I want to run what I had done with you.’ We understood. You feel like you got to go and make that [Roach result] more definitive? Sure. You feel like you want to do [the Paul fight] and then go and make that more definitive? Cool, too. Whatever you think is right.”

One of the loudest and most widespread condemnations of Paul-Davis has been the obvious and considerable weight disparity: Paul, a natural cruiserweight, most recently weighed 199½lbs for his unanimous decision win over Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr., which he took following the demise of the Canelo talks, and hit the scales at 227¼lbs for the Tyson matchup. Davis, in contrast, despite being a considerably more accomplished boxer, has never weighed as much as 140lbs as a professional.

Given what therefore seem like clear obstacles to the contest receiving official sanction, it has been widely assumed and reported that when Davis and Paul square off in Atlanta on November 14, it will be an exhibition. However, Bidarian cautioned that that has yet to be determined, as has the weight at which the bout would be contested.

“Jake will have to come down from cruiserweight, obviously,” he said.

“What I can say unequivocally, whether or not it is an exhibition, is that there will be a definitive outcome.”

[Sendo Takeshi]

“Jake will have to come down from cruiserweight, obviously,” he said.

I don't know if Jake could go lower than 80 kg, but I guess Light Heavy should be the limit.
I also don't think Tank walks around with more than 70 kg.
Let's see what they gonna do here.

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[gilgamesh]

So how long do we think it'll be before Jake Paul calls out Claressa Shields?

[goose 5]

Let's hope not. Ever.

[Bobbyptsd]

Also, if Netflix wants to legitimately enter the boxing game, this isn't how to do it. They can't be taken seriously if they're mostly showing influencer stuff for teenagers.

They have no desire to "legitimately enter the boxing game", they are interested in shows that people will pay money for. Teenagers and Jake Paul fans are a bigger market than legitimate boxing followers. If Jake Paul had decided to take up tennis instead they would be showing him taking on 66 year old John McEnroe in challenge matches.

I think this is the correct way to look at it. People will pay for this kind of spectacle and there's no reason to assume netflix cares about the opinion or viewership of the type of person who frequents this board, when there are untold millions who don't know any boxers aside from Mike Tyson, these two and maybe a small handful of others but will watch a "show" they figure will be entertaining, because they are told it will be by the screen.

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“Jake will have to come down from cruiserweight, obviously,” he said.

I don't know if Jake could go lower than 80 kg, but I guess Light Heavy should be the limit.
I also don't think Tank walks around with more than 70 kg.
Let's see what they gonna do here.

Why? Whatever they do, it will still be pointless and stupid. Who gives a shit about the details?

The people who this is marketed at don't understand or care about anything except "it's Jake Paul fighting a champion boxer", and actual boxing people don't care about the whole thing anyway.

[gilgamesh]

“Jake will have to come down from cruiserweight, obviously,” he said.

I don't know if Jake could go lower than 80 kg, but I guess Light Heavy should be the limit.
I also don't think Tank walks around with more than 70 kg.
Let's see what they gonna do here.

Why? Whatever they do, it will still be pointless and stupid. Who gives a shit about the details?

The people who this is marketed at don't understand or care about anything except "it's Jake Paul fighting a champion boxer", and actual boxing people don't care about the whole thing anyway.

I have 2 guys at work I talk Boxing with. Since this has been announced we haven't even brought it up to each other

[Sendo Takeshi]

“Jake will have to come down from cruiserweight, obviously,” he said.

I don't know if Jake could go lower than 80 kg, but I guess Light Heavy should be the limit.
I also don't think Tank walks around with more than 70 kg.
Let's see what they gonna do here.

Why? Whatever they do, it will still be pointless and stupid. Who gives a shit about the details? .

If you don’t care, that’s fine. But then why even comment?
I care, because depending on the weight and rules, it could be interesting to see how skill matches up against size here.

[Bobbyptsd]

He's commenting because it's stupid and this is a boxing forum so it's a good place to point out that it's stupid.

[Thomastearns]

Are there no commonly agreed rules about bringing the sweet science of boxing into disrepute via deception?

Silly question, of course not.

For sure, Paul is a clever self promoting parasite who has no shame about deceiving his gullible fans, and as they say, there's one born every minute, but where is the protection for these 'casuals' who will be misled into expecting a real fight?

Netflix like to work around carefully written scripts that meet their sensibilities, and if there's another fast underhand buck is to be made, of course they want in on it.

It will be almost exactly a year since the scripted Tyson v Paul huge letdown managed to separate a lot of young kids from their parents money.

Mike Tyson may have got well paid for going through with that fiasco last November, but his reputation also took one huge almighty hit.

Does Netflix care? What do you think?

Netflix understands that a year for a teenager is worth at least five for everyone else. So it's high time to roll out the same old scamshow/exhibition/fake fight once again.

Let's make it an annual event, shall we? And let's keep the word 'exhibition' low key as well, shall we? We wouldn't want to give the game away now, would we?

The percentages are tight enough already. God forbid we should lose on this! Besides, no one is forcing these schmucks into watching this.

Deceiving yes, forcing, no. Hahahaha!

All of this fake posturing moneygrab may annoy diehard boxing fans, as it should, but they might do well to remember that without the intervention of one Turki Al-Sheikh this is where the business end of 21st century boxing was heading.

[Sendo Takeshi]

He's commenting because it's stupid and this is a boxing forum so it's a good place to point out that it's stupid.

Well, if you guys want to waste your time writing about something you don’t even care about, that’s fine by me

[keithmoonhangover]

This is nuts. What’s even crazier is that Jake Paul apparently actually wanted to fight AJ.

[joshj909]

This is nuts. What’s even crazier is that Jake Paul apparently actually wanted to fight AJ.

Depending on the rules, it could end up being either very interesting or really boring.
I’m kinda curious to see if the 30–40 kg weight difference can make up for the difference in skill.

Now people should consider how AJ vs Tank would look...

[gp.]

I don't know if Jake could go lower than 80 kg, but I guess Light Heavy should be the limit.
I also don't think Tank walks around with more than 70 kg.
Let's see what they gonna do here.

Why? Whatever they do, it will still be pointless and stupid. Who gives a shit about the details? .

If you don’t care, that’s fine. But then why even comment?
I care, because depending on the weight and rules, it could be interesting to see how skill matches up against size here.

Here's the problem. You're suggesting that if they do it right, there could be something relatively legitimate about this. There's enough ignorant idiots out there who are going to think this is legitimate without people who ought to know better encouraging that idea.
Whatever rules they come up with, this will remain a pile of nonsensical shit with nothing to do with legitimate boxing.

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[gilgamesh]

Notice on all the posters it doesn't say Exhibition anywhere. In order to find out what these Exhibitions rules are you have to search it out yourself.

I can't imagine anyone that's watched an Exhibition gets excited about seeing another one.

People take more damage in Pro Wrestling matches.

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