How good is Tyson fury actually?

[Cbarnes19]

The more I look at his and AJ’s resume the more I’m unsure who’s is actually better.

Which gave me a thought on the grander scale; how good actually is/was he?

Such a polarising figure but in terms of ‘legacy’ and his CV could he really be classed as elite?

[Ezzard]

Fury was a brilliant fighter. We can argue over CVs and that's great and enjoyable. But Fury was a brilliant boxer. AJ was too and he took on a lot of the top talent of his era. We were lucky to have both of these gents.

[MasterG]

1980s British level absolutely max

[Coco]

1980s British level absolutely max

Like Neville Meade?

[Cbarnes19]

Fury was a brilliant fighter. We can argue over CVs and that's great and enjoyable. But Fury was a brilliant boxer. AJ was too and he took on a lot of the top talent of his era. We were lucky to have both of these gents.

Yes I’d fully agree, it’s a golden generation for British heavyweights and they’ll both be sorely missed when they do go! Think we’ve been guilty of under appreciating them

[mickey1975]

1980s British level absolutely max

Like Neville Meade?

Horace Notice?

[Coco]

1980s British level absolutely max

Like Neville Meade?

Horace Notice?

Derek Williams?

[NazNaci1]

1980s British level absolutely max

Like Neville Meade?

Horace Notice?

Notice was a good fighter. He'd be in the Top 10 now, if he was fighting in this era.

He may have even won a belt, something he would not have done in his era. As would have someone like Gary Mason, god rest his soul.

[NazNaci1]

Like Neville Meade?

Horace Notice?

Derek Williams?

Don't be knocking 'Sweet D', Coco

[joshj909]

We'll never know because he beat an old Klitschko that couldn't even stop Bryant Jennings and never won a fight again, then his best win in his entire career after that is a faded Whyte. In Boxing, we can only truly judge someone on their record because it's easy to look like a world beater when you're beating guys below your level.

[gilgamesh]

We'll never know because he beat an old Klitschko that couldn't even stop Bryant Jennings and never won a fight again, then his best win in his entire career after that is a faded Whyte. In Boxing, we can only truly judge someone on their record because it's easy to look like a world beater when you're beating guys below your level.

His best win is clearly the 2nd Wilder fight. His best fight is the 3rd Wilder fight. The Whyte win is about equal to the Chisora win.

[coneye]

Depends how big a fan you were .

[gilgamesh]

Fury was a brilliant fighter. We can argue over CVs and that's great and enjoyable. But Fury was a brilliant boxer. AJ was too and he took on a lot of the top talent of his era. We were lucky to have both of these gents.

Yes I’d fully agree, it’s a golden generation for British heavyweights and they’ll both be sorely missed when they do go! Think we’ve been guilty of under appreciating them

The likelihood of having a Fury and Joshua emerge during the same era again in our lifetimes seems unlikely. 2 World Class Heavyweights being from the U.K. at the same time has only really happened with Fury/Joshua and Lewis/Bruno.

[gregregegg]

Both Fury and AJs best results are being gifted a split decision loss vs Usyk…

[Ruthless-RKO]

Both Fury and AJs best results are being gifted a split decision loss vs Usyk…

I can agree with this

[joshj909]

We'll never know because he beat an old Klitschko that couldn't even stop Bryant Jennings and never won a fight again, then his best win in his entire career after that is a faded Whyte. In Boxing, we can only truly judge someone on their record because it's easy to look like a world beater when you're beating guys below your level.

His best win is clearly the 2nd Wilder fight. His best fight is the 3rd Wilder fight. The Whyte win is about equal to the Chisora win.

Whyte beating Chisora twice, Povetkin and Parker too is better than anything Wilder or Chisora ever did.

[mickey1975]

I'd still have Wlad as his best win. He did what nobody could do for years, and in Germany. Fantastic, underrated win.

[gilgamesh]

We'll never know because he beat an old Klitschko that couldn't even stop Bryant Jennings and never won a fight again, then his best win in his entire career after that is a faded Whyte. In Boxing, we can only truly judge someone on their record because it's easy to look like a world beater when you're beating guys below your level.

His best win is clearly the 2nd Wilder fight. His best fight is the 3rd Wilder fight. The Whyte win is about equal to the Chisora win.

Whyte beating Chisora twice, Povetkin and Parker too is better than anything Wilder or Chisora ever did.

He faced stiffer competition than Wilder I cannot disagree with that. He's not far off from Wilder, but Wilder holding down a World Title for a few years, and fighting Fury to a draw in their 1st bout gives him the edge I think.

Whyte was probably the best contender not to win a World Title of his era as that era is coming to a close. I think it's fair to give him that.

[Frostieballs]

A lot of his legacy depends on how highly you rate Wilder.

I don’t rate Wilder very highly at all.

[Coco]

A large part of his lefacy depends on how highly you rate Wilder.

I don’t rate him very highly at all.

The trilogy was great though, especially the third.

Also in the first, I've never seen a fella get hit so hard and get up!

[gilgamesh]

A lot of his legacy depends on how highly you rate Wilder.

I don’t rate Wilder very highly at all.

Wilder isn't that great, but he's better than some give him credit for at the same time. He'd probably legitimately be a Top 30 or Top 40 all time Heavyweight which is nothing to scoff at in a sport that has existed as long as Boxing has.

[gilgamesh]

A large part of his lefacy depends on how highly you rate Wilder.

I don’t rate him very highly at all.

The trilogy was great though, especially the third.

Also in the first, I've never seen a fella get hit so hard and get up!

Yeah. That's one of the only times I ever remember jumping up and down celebrating a certain victory for my dude only to see that it wasn't in fact a victory, and the fight wasn't won.

[Taansend]

I give Wilder more respect for his three losses to Fury than I do for any of his wins.

As for Fury, very talented fighter, big heart, and I'm glad I got to follow his whole career.

Not happy that he never met AJ & that's a tiny stain on his career but I ain't losing any sleep over it.

[gilgamesh]

I give Wilder more respect for his three losses to Fury than I do for any of his wins.

As for Fury, very talented fighter, big heart, and I'm glad I got to follow his whole career.

Not happy that he never met AJ & that's a tiny stain on his career but I ain't losing any sleep over it.

He didn't lose the first fight with Fury. It was a draw.

And if Fury and AJ never fight. It's not a tiny stain on their career. It's a tremendous stain, that drops them both several notches on the all time list. The loser of a fight between them would be better off for having fought and lost that fight than either would be if they never fought it at all.

It would be the equivalent of if Ali and Frazier had ducked each other their entire careers. It would disgrace them and their country.

[mickey1975]

I give Wilder more respect for his three losses to Fury than I do for any of his wins.

As for Fury, very talented fighter, big heart, and I'm glad I got to follow his whole career.

Not happy that he never met AJ & that's a tiny stain on his career but I ain't losing any sleep over it.

He didn't lose the first fight with Fury. It was a draw.

And if Fury and AJ never fight. It's not a tiny stain on their career. It's a tremendous stain, that drops them both several notches on the all time list. The loser of a fight between them would be better off for having fought and lost that fight than either would be if they never fought it at all.

It would be the equivalent of if Ali and Frazier had ducked each other their entire careers. It would disgrace them and their country.

Even I admit that's true. Same goes for Lewis and Bowe.