Evander Holyfield (Lewis 2) vs Oleksandr Usyk (Dubois 2)

Cojimar 1946
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Re: Evander Holyfield (Lewis 2) vs Oleksandr Usyk (Dubois 2)

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gilgamesh wrote: 11 Oct 2025, 13:52
Cojimar 1946 wrote: 11 Oct 2025, 12:11 That has no bearing at all on whether Fury could beat Joshua or other guys in an actual fight in 2015.

If a number 1 guy can't beat the guys below him it's a hollow argument. But it happens all the time like it or not.

If someone wants to argue he was number 1 on paper I don't care enough to argue about it
You don't know that Fury couldn't beat the guys below him though. You just assume he couldn't. He certainly didn't lose to anybody until 2024, so it's certainly not insane to believe he was the man in 2015 because...ya know...he had beaten the reigning Champion of the last 9 years.

Joshua would've been a heavy underdog in 2015 I'd think as he was only 3 years into his Pro career.
Losing to someone would require fighting them to begin with. Easier to avoid losses when you won't fight top contenders. Wilder and a shot Whyte were probably his best opponents over that time period.

Joshua fought dire opposition going into the Wlad fight. Doubt his fights in 2016 taught him anything as they were journeyman types he easily blew aside without effort.
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