Howard Foster

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Re: Howard Foster

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Why is a Brit ref reffing such a high profile fight with a Brit involved?

It's not Enzo v McKenzie but it was a poor stoppage. Undisputed was at stake with all the millions that go with it, you simply have to let that play out
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lefthook82 wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 07:37Why is a Brit ref reffing such a high profile fight with a Brit involved?
I was just typing similar. Leaving out the ins and outs of the stoppage, it seems mad that they agreed to a British ref in retrospect. Especially after the controversy around the count in the Huni fight.
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Re: Howard Foster

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I’m in the minority here, but thought it was a good stoppage.

Parker was offering nothing back and whilst the last few shots didn’t land, many of the earlier ones did and he was clearly vulnerable.
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Re: Howard Foster

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Trouble is, it’s always the home fighter who gets the massive advantage from the ref, Foster has a high number of egregious examples of clear bias. Steve Gray is probably even worse for it. Certainly not a problem unique to boxing, happens in all sports.
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Re: Howard Foster

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Oct 2025, 19:36 Is there a petition we can sign to ban Foster from refereeing big fights.
If there is one, I'll sign it.

Howard Foster is one of the very worst referees, he should never be allowed to work a world title fight. He's notorious for quick stoppages on Queensberry events, always favoring Fish Eyes' boxers.

I just hope Foster isn't the referee for Usyk-Wardley.
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Re: Howard Foster

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It's just not true to say Foster always jumps in early

Warrington v Lara springs to mind, Josh was out on his feet, not throwing anything, stumbling around, taking big, flush shots

And Foster didn't stop it
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Re: Howard Foster

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Coco wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 09:09 It's just not true to say Foster always jumps in early

Warrington v Lara springs to mind, Josh was out on his feet, not throwing anything, stumbling around, taking big, flush shots

And Foster didn't stop it
Yh they always favour the Brits. If it was other way around, he’d had stopped Lara within seconds..

He’ll allow British fighters more time .
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 09:26
Coco wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 09:09 It's just not true to say Foster always jumps in early

Warrington v Lara springs to mind, Josh was out on his feet, not throwing anything, stumbling around, taking big, flush shots

And Foster didn't stop it
Yh they always favour the Brits. If it was other way around, he’d had stopped Lara within seconds..

He’ll allow British fighters more time .
And there was me thinking that it's unfair to suggest that Foster always stops fights early.

Now you are suggesting that he does whatever to suit the house fighter :box:
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Re: Howard Foster

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Frostieballs wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 07:53 I’m in the minority here, but thought it was a good stoppage.

Parker was offering nothing back and whilst the last few shots didn’t land, many of the earlier ones did and he was clearly vulnerable.
I thought it was fair at the time. It’s more questionable when you watch it back. But that’s boxing.
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Re: Howard Foster

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 09:26 He always favours the Brits. If it was other way around, he’d had stopped Lara within seconds..

He’ll allow British fighters more time.
Yes, Foster is notorious for helping the British promoters' boxers, especially Allegedly-promoted boxers. Over the years, I've seen it many many times.
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Re: Howard Foster

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Noxy wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 10:08
Frostieballs wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 07:53 I’m in the minority here, but thought it was a good stoppage.

Parker was offering nothing back and whilst the last few shots didn’t land, many of the earlier ones did and he was clearly vulnerable.
I thought it was fair at the time. It’s more questionable when you watch it back. But that’s boxing.
I actually thought it was too early watching live but then watched it back and thought it was reasonable, there was a good spell where Parker did nothing, maybe not badly hurt but not throwing back
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Re: Howard Foster

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Noxy wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 10:08
Frostieballs wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 07:53 I’m in the minority here, but thought it was a good stoppage.

Parker was offering nothing back and whilst the last few shots didn’t land, many of the earlier ones did and he was clearly vulnerable.
I thought it was fair at the time. It’s more questionable when you watch it back. But that’s boxing.
I was bummed at the stoppage, but I do remember thinking to myself "Come on fire back. Fire back Joe" so the possibility of a stoppage was in my mind
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Re: Howard Foster

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The stoppage was poor, not much was landing, and Parker wasn't taking anything like a shelling.

Wardley would have been blowing out his arse in 10 seconds time.
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Re: Howard Foster

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gilgamesh wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 11:21
Noxy wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 10:08
Frostieballs wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 07:53 I’m in the minority here, but thought it was a good stoppage.

Parker was offering nothing back and whilst the last few shots didn’t land, many of the earlier ones did and he was clearly vulnerable.
I thought it was fair at the time. It’s more questionable when you watch it back. But that’s boxing.
I was bummed at the stoppage, but I do remember thinking to myself "Come on fire back. Fire back Joe" so the possibility of a stoppage was in my mind
Even if you’re not hurt (he was) you can’t just not fire back. It’s your own fault then for being stopped.
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Re: Howard Foster

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foggyneedham wrote: 25 Oct 2025, 19:25 Parker slumped on the ropes, don't see a problem with the stoppage...... Guessing people lost some betting money
I make you right. Parker was saved at the right time imo
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Re: Howard Foster

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Bercli wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 15:22
foggyneedham wrote: 25 Oct 2025, 19:25 Parker slumped on the ropes, don't see a problem with the stoppage...... Guessing people lost some betting money
I make you right. Parker was saved at the right time imo

Foster would've stopped Ali Foreman in r2. Slumped on those ropes.
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Re: Howard Foster

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Yeah it was a bad stoppage. Wardley threw 3 punches that didn't land and then the ref jumped in. What's the logic in stopping it at that point and not after earlier punches that did land?

Parker was somewhat hurt, but he should have had more chance to get through a rough patch in a high level fight like this. He was still demonstrating defensive ability.
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Re: Howard Foster

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Poor stoppage from Foster IMO.
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John Fury thought it was stopped too late
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Re: Howard Foster

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Joe is a profesional he should of threw punches back hetook a couple heavy hits grabbed on then went back on the ropes granted the last few seemed to miss but he was.nt firing back . I personaly would.nt say it was real bad stoppage but considering whats at stake it was certainly what i would call a soft stoppage . BUT its british boxing its something that happenz regular and always seems to favor yhe hometown fighter fights especielly of this magnitude really do need a neutral ref brought in
Too be honest i just cant see how joes trainer and management did.nt brjng it up before the fight . Also think they outsmarted themseves a bit with the weight the extra weight and size did.nt bother Fabio too much. But It certainly affected joes speed and stamina
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Re: Howard Foster

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Wardly swarmed, Parker took some big shots but avoided most, then he threw back, then backed up and reset, then wardly threw a 3 punch combo that Parker successfully avoided and it was waved.

I don’t love that in boxing over commiting gets rewarded. Wardly went mental, lost all shape, emptied the tank, but the it gets waved…

I will say it’s common enough for that to be a solid strategy. Rather than trying to be accurate or responsible with energy just swarm so that the punches you are throwing (not the punches you are landing) are too much to allow it to continue.

The stoppage is fine at sub brittish levle. But for a world title I think you need to let him go down or at least be legitimately staggered, or at least taking consistent clean shots…
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Re: Howard Foster

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coneye wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 20:27 Joe is a profesional he should of threw punches back hetook a couple heavy hits grabbed on then went back on the ropes granted the last few seemed to miss but he was.nt firing back . I personaly would.nt say it was real bad stoppage but considering whats at stake it was certainly what i would call a soft stoppage . BUT its british boxing its something that happenz regular and always seems to favor yhe hometown fighter fights especielly of this magnitude really do need a neutral ref brought in
Too be honest i just cant see how joes trainer and management did.nt brjng it up before the fight . Also think they outsmarted themseves a bit with the weight the extra weight and size did.nt bother Fabio too much. But It certainly affected joes speed and stamina
Joe took a few, hit back with a combo, then had 4 more thrown at him, 3 missing.
Some people talking of him taking 40 unanswered shots is nonsense.
Nevertheless, they knew it was Foster reffing, they should have given him that opportunity.
Def agree that the weight hurt Parker
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I initially thought it looked a poor stoppage but I only saw a clip of the last 15 seconds or so. However he was being battered for about 30 seconds before that but the viral clip leaves a lot of that out. So on reflection maybe not as bad as I thought.
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Re: Howard Foster

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Coco wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 20:48
coneye wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 20:27 Joe is a profesional he should of threw punches back hetook a couple heavy hits grabbed on then went back on the ropes granted the last few seemed to miss but he was.nt firing back . I personaly would.nt say it was real bad stoppage but considering whats at stake it was certainly what i would call a soft stoppage . BUT its british boxing its something that happenz regular and always seems to favor yhe hometown fighter fights especielly of this magnitude really do need a neutral ref brought in
Too be honest i just cant see how joes trainer and management did.nt brjng it up before the fight . Also think they outsmarted themseves a bit with the weight the extra weight and size did.nt bother Fabio too much. But It certainly affected joes speed and stamina
Joe took a few, hit back with a combo, then had 4 more thrown at him, 3 missing.
Some people talking of him taking 40 unanswered shots is nonsense.
Nevertheless, they knew it was Foster reffing, they should have given him that opportunity.
Def agree that the weight hurt Parker
Ironicly if they were too fight again with joe 20 ...30 pounds lighter i would have no problem putting a couple hundred on Joe to win by stoppage . And thats saying something because i.m not a gambler i very rarely bet . Odd ocasion joe hurt him he did.nt commit fully i think he was feeling tired early
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Re: Howard Foster

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coneye wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 20:27 Joe is a profesional he should of threw punches back hetook a couple heavy hits grabbed on then went back on the ropes granted the last few seemed to miss but he was.nt firing back . I personaly would.nt say it was real bad stoppage but considering whats at stake it was certainly what i would call a soft stoppage . BUT its british boxing its something that happenz regular and always seems to favor yhe hometown fighter fights especielly of this magnitude really do need a neutral ref brought in
Too be honest i just cant see how joes trainer and management did.nt brjng it up before the fight . Also think they outsmarted themseves a bit with the weight the extra weight and size did.nt bother Fabio too much. But It certainly affected joes speed and stamina
Parker may as well be a Brit too. He’s well liked over here. Has fought many times here too.. promoted here for a long time too. But he’s just not British is he.
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