I don’t believe this. Also without being cruel unless it’s a decent opponent I hope he gets wiped out
Anthony Joshua in talks for two-fight deal
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JamesPhilips
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gregregegg
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Nothing wrong with AJ coming back at quite a low level here… needs to be someone that you can at least pretend is good, but honestly shouldent be anyone good. Been 2 years since aj beat a boxer.
Hysa? Xhoxaj? I personally think you could throw Hunter in (cause I just have to feel like Hunter is now shit, cause why else would his record be so so so bad for the last 6 years)… but I doubt they agree.
I could honestly cop a dobvechenko too and just sell it as an absolute tune up nothing else fight.
Hysa? Xhoxaj? I personally think you could throw Hunter in (cause I just have to feel like Hunter is now shit, cause why else would his record be so so so bad for the last 6 years)… but I doubt they agree.
I could honestly cop a dobvechenko too and just sell it as an absolute tune up nothing else fight.
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I don't know why one of these star boxers doesn't revisit Joe Louis' bum of the month club idea, and just fight a bunch of low level guys one month after the other. You could easily rack up 5 or 6 wins and quite a bit of money.
Especially if you're the only guy doing it in a sport full of people that just want to sit around and wait.
Especially if you're the only guy doing it in a sport full of people that just want to sit around and wait.
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gregregegg
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Aj should fight fury and wilder in any order but he needs to fight those two…
Failing that I personally think given ajs star power he can have one more smart run at a world title…
… but if he loses (or even if he wins and dosent want to defend vs the best) he should go on a high activity world tour. Depending on how he is you can do it at a lowww level ie…
Igor Adiel Macedo In Brazil,
Issac Munoz Gutierrez In Mexico
Raphael Akpejiori In Nigeria
Ect ect ect
Or a higher level
Guido at the colosseum
Zhang at the birdsnest
Efe at Nigeria
Ruiz III in mexico ect ect…
Probably dosent make economic sense, I just think conceptually it would be sick… and AJ feels like the guy for it.
Failing that I personally think given ajs star power he can have one more smart run at a world title…
… but if he loses (or even if he wins and dosent want to defend vs the best) he should go on a high activity world tour. Depending on how he is you can do it at a lowww level ie…
Igor Adiel Macedo In Brazil,
Issac Munoz Gutierrez In Mexico
Raphael Akpejiori In Nigeria
Ect ect ect
Or a higher level
Guido at the colosseum
Zhang at the birdsnest
Efe at Nigeria
Ruiz III in mexico ect ect…
Probably dosent make economic sense, I just think conceptually it would be sick… and AJ feels like the guy for it.
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It does sound a bit cruel.JamesPhilips wrote: ↑02 Nov 2025, 13:01I don’t believe this. Also without being cruel unless it’s a decent opponent I hope he gets wiped out
There's not much of the year left, is there? A bit last minute, no? I'm not a big fan of his personality but I enjoy watching AJ fight, so I hope he does.
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anyone who suggests the likes of Hysa as an opponent is frankly silly...and will probably pay to watch Jake Paul.
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If there's a quick turnaround after then the likes of Chisor, Bakole, Ajagba, Zhang, Okolie, Anderson, Vianello, Wilder etc would be a good fight. If he's looking for someone a bit easier the lowest he could realistically go without getting too much backlash would be Pero, Hughie, Joyce or Clarke. Hysa and lower would seem like a waste of everyone's time.
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JamesPhilips
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I think Hughie is boxing on the 29th Novemberjoshj909 wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025, 08:38 If there's a quick turnaround after then the likes of Chisor, Bakole, Ajagba, Zhang, Okolie, Anderson, Vianello, Wilder etc would be a good fight. If he's looking for someone a bit easier the lowest he could realistically go without getting too much backlash would be Pero, Hughie, Joyce or Clarke. Hysa and lower would seem like a waste of everyone's time.
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black panther
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Hughie will be a nightmare for AJ once he turns 57 and gets his man strength.JamesPhilips wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025, 09:02I think Hughie is boxing on the 29th Novemberjoshj909 wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025, 08:38 If there's a quick turnaround after then the likes of Chisor, Bakole, Ajagba, Zhang, Okolie, Anderson, Vianello, Wilder etc would be a good fight. If he's looking for someone a bit easier the lowest he could realistically go without getting too much backlash would be Pero, Hughie, Joyce or Clarke. Hysa and lower would seem like a waste of everyone's time.
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‘Robert McCracken was the best trainer Anthony Joshua had,’ says top British coach
As has been the case since day dot of Anthony Joshua’s professional boxing career, questions are being asked about what comes next. Who will he fight, when will he fight and, since he left Robert McCracken after the first loss to Oleksandr Usyk in 2021, who will train him?
Joshua, 36, is plotting his latest comeback after more than a year out of the ring following a fifth-round loss to Daniel Dubois last September. There is speculation that he’ll return before the end of 2025, with his promoter Eddie Hearn confirming that a slot on a December undercard in Saudi Arabia is a possibility. In the last few days, Joshua himself has said he’d be willing to take on oft-rumored opponent Jake Paul following the collapse of Paul’s November date with Gervonta Davis.
Also stealing recent (and speculative) headlines is the suggestion that Joshua, 28-4 (25 KOs), might be about to ditch trainer Ben Davison with Sergey Lapin, chief cornerman of Usyk, supposedly under consideration.
After departing from McCracken and a partnership that spawned 24 wins from 26 fights, Joshua spent time under the guidance of Robert Garcia, then Derrick James, before joining forces with Davison in 2023. Victories over Otto Wallin and Francis Ngannou followed until the loss to Dubois left plenty contemplating if Davison would be the next coach for the chop.
Dominic Ingle, who in the past advised Joshua to ditch the “back slappers” and stick with one coach to get back to basics, this week told Sky Sports that another change of personnel might not prove the wisest idea – particularly if that means training in Spain under Lapin.
“[Joshua] doesn’t box like Usyk,” Ingle said, “Can they train AJ to box like Usyk? You’ve got to pick out the best in what AJ does and pick out the worst in what he does – and improve the worst in him.”
For Ingle, Joshua was at his best under McCracken, the revered British trainer who guided the heavyweight to Olympic gold in 2012 and then three sanctioning body titles in the paid ranks.
“I say it time and time again, the best trainer he had was Robert McCracken. It might not be what people want to hear but he had him from the [different] stages of the amateurs. He had him when he was a young mind, brought him through and guided him. He had a good view of what the competition was. He knew where to put him, when to take fights and not to take fights. He’d invested a lot of time in him.
“Now when he moves on, to Ben Davison or whatever, you’re going to be in for a big payday as a trainer but it’s a lot of responsibility to take on. Ben Davison is a good trainer, he’s trained AJ for so many fights, brought him back and he’ll have got paid handsomely – and everyone wants to train AJ because it’s a good payday.
“But sometimes you have to think to yourself, ‘am I capable of training that fighter?’ And sometimes you just have to accept it’s not going to work.”
As has been the case since day dot of Anthony Joshua’s professional boxing career, questions are being asked about what comes next. Who will he fight, when will he fight and, since he left Robert McCracken after the first loss to Oleksandr Usyk in 2021, who will train him?
Joshua, 36, is plotting his latest comeback after more than a year out of the ring following a fifth-round loss to Daniel Dubois last September. There is speculation that he’ll return before the end of 2025, with his promoter Eddie Hearn confirming that a slot on a December undercard in Saudi Arabia is a possibility. In the last few days, Joshua himself has said he’d be willing to take on oft-rumored opponent Jake Paul following the collapse of Paul’s November date with Gervonta Davis.
Also stealing recent (and speculative) headlines is the suggestion that Joshua, 28-4 (25 KOs), might be about to ditch trainer Ben Davison with Sergey Lapin, chief cornerman of Usyk, supposedly under consideration.
After departing from McCracken and a partnership that spawned 24 wins from 26 fights, Joshua spent time under the guidance of Robert Garcia, then Derrick James, before joining forces with Davison in 2023. Victories over Otto Wallin and Francis Ngannou followed until the loss to Dubois left plenty contemplating if Davison would be the next coach for the chop.
Dominic Ingle, who in the past advised Joshua to ditch the “back slappers” and stick with one coach to get back to basics, this week told Sky Sports that another change of personnel might not prove the wisest idea – particularly if that means training in Spain under Lapin.
“[Joshua] doesn’t box like Usyk,” Ingle said, “Can they train AJ to box like Usyk? You’ve got to pick out the best in what AJ does and pick out the worst in what he does – and improve the worst in him.”
For Ingle, Joshua was at his best under McCracken, the revered British trainer who guided the heavyweight to Olympic gold in 2012 and then three sanctioning body titles in the paid ranks.
“I say it time and time again, the best trainer he had was Robert McCracken. It might not be what people want to hear but he had him from the [different] stages of the amateurs. He had him when he was a young mind, brought him through and guided him. He had a good view of what the competition was. He knew where to put him, when to take fights and not to take fights. He’d invested a lot of time in him.
“Now when he moves on, to Ben Davison or whatever, you’re going to be in for a big payday as a trainer but it’s a lot of responsibility to take on. Ben Davison is a good trainer, he’s trained AJ for so many fights, brought him back and he’ll have got paid handsomely – and everyone wants to train AJ because it’s a good payday.
“But sometimes you have to think to yourself, ‘am I capable of training that fighter?’ And sometimes you just have to accept it’s not going to work.”
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keithmoonhangover
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I'm of the opinion that, like in many other aspects of life, trainers can have an off night. I don't think people think of it in that way and prefer to see it in a more neon way - he's either a good cornerman or he's not. I think Rob McCracken has a bad night during the first Usyk fight and it was still a competitive fight. AJ should have stuck with him IMO.
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jamesmcdonnell
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This is true.black panther wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025, 14:50Hughie will be a nightmare for AJ once he turns 57 and gets his man strength.JamesPhilips wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025, 09:02I think Hughie is boxing on the 29th Novemberjoshj909 wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025, 08:38 If there's a quick turnaround after then the likes of Chisor, Bakole, Ajagba, Zhang, Okolie, Anderson, Vianello, Wilder etc would be a good fight. If he's looking for someone a bit easier the lowest he could realistically go without getting too much backlash would be Pero, Hughie, Joyce or Clarke. Hysa and lower would seem like a waste of everyone's time.
Hes still just a babby.
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McCracken is one of the best out therekeithmoonhangover wrote: ↑06 Nov 2025, 15:17 I'm of the opinion that, like in many other aspects of life, trainers can have an off night. I don't think people think of it in that way and prefer to see it in a more neon way - he's either a good cornerman or he's not. I think Rob McCracken has a bad night during the first Usyk fight and it was still a competitive fight. AJ should have stuck with him IMO.