Round-by-Round: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn II | PPV - 15 November 2025

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Re: Round-by-Round: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn II | PPV - 15 November 2025

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keithmoonhangover wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 20:03
Cyclops wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 19:26
keithmoonhangover wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 19:19 Tyson Fury take note. Chris Eubank just showed you how to lose with class.
Give over, Keith. Eubank went into that ring knowing he was dead at the weight for the paycheque. He'd accepted defeat long before the fight so of course he wasn't upset to lose. I expect Fury wanted to win hence he was upset.
He ain't tight at the weight. For the morning of the fight weigh ins for both fights, he weighed in well under 170 fully clothed. He wasn't dead at the weight, he just wasn't right mentally.
Not just mentally. It’s how much you’re allowed to rehydrate to..

I said it before. Crawford-Canelo. Crawford was coming up 2 weights, maybe even 3 really. But canelo didn’t have any clauses. He was allow to weigh in whatever he wanted after the weigh in.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn II | PPV - 15 November 2025

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NazNaci1 wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 19:50
SticknMove wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 19:43
NazNaci1 wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 19:34 As people have said, both made a ton of money, which is fair. It's a hard. hard sport.

Not a particularly good fight, pretty dull, due to, for the most part, Benn's limitations and Jnr being wrecked.

Benn got the W and for him and Fast car, in their mind, that can remove the cheat thing, even though they had to stack the deck twice, to do it.

Fast Car wasn't going to do Jnr any favours and you get the feeling he enjoyed that.

Benn is what he is, a limited fighter. He looked fast because Jnr looked so slow and wooden, both times. Against any top natural 147 / 160, that speed won't be that much of a factor.

Eddie is all about getting his investment back, so now he has done that, will push for a world title shot, for a bit of profit and its job done.
Knowing all that do you think this fight is immoral?
Immoral. From a purist and fan viewpoint, probably.

As boxer (which I'm obvs not) and a grown man, making lots of money, accepting the terms is down to you. You can always say No, but its that money thing again, so in that sense, probably not.

Can't really tell a fighter not to take the money, if he feels he wants to.

Sadly death and accidents are always possible, so can't really begrudge anyone.
Seriously?

So top end elite level fighters is moral but lower level marketable quality ‘soap opera vendetta/love’ matched can only meet a certain threshold for it to moral.
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Ah so both KD’s were back of the head. First was behind the ear.

Knocked CEJ’s equilibrium.
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Not sure what you're getting at with the morality of it all. Boxing as a whole really isn't especially moral in a lot of ways at its core, but there was nothing inherently unfair about anything about Eubank vs Benn 2.

The weight might be an excuse, but I think the damage that Benn did to Eubank in that 1st bout had a lot to do with the performance we got from Eubank tonight as well.

I don't think Eubank took the kinda punishment anyone needs to be having any ethical dilemmas about. I'd imagine there are other people on the card that came out just as bad or worse.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn II | PPV - 15 November 2025

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SticknMove wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 20:26
NazNaci1 wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 19:50
SticknMove wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 19:43

Knowing all that do you think this fight is immoral?
Immoral. From a purist and fan viewpoint, probably.

As boxer (which I'm obvs not) and a grown man, making lots of money, accepting the terms is down to you. You can always say No, but its that money thing again, so in that sense, probably not.

Can't really tell a fighter not to take the money, if he feels he wants to.

Sadly death and accidents are always possible, so can't really begrudge anyone.
Seriously?

So top end elite level fighters is moral but lower level marketable quality ‘soap opera vendetta/love’ matched can only meet a certain threshold for it to moral.
'Elite'? 'Soap Opera'? Who mentioned any of that? My point was a broader, general one, applicable to all.

Nothing to do with 'elite' or 'soap opera' types. Not sure where you got the idea I am differentiating. Maybe it's me and I was not very clear.

In simpler terms, as a fan, I do not like all this stuff, as probably most fans. However, as a fighter, you have to decide if you choose the money, even if it disadvantages you. More often than not, the answer is yes and who can blame them.

We have quite a few ex-pro's here and they can tell you, more often than not, the odds were heavily stacked against them but you do it as you are getting paid. Is it right? No, not really (being disadvantaged). Should they not do it because I don't like it?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn II | PPV - 15 November 2025

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Eubank Jr looked like Liam Smith in their rematch.
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I felt this had two faint echoes: Eubank turned villain to hero by his Thompson fights; and the sad decline of Roy Jones.

Obviously Senior's efforts were incomparable, but Junior's final stand was nevertheless the moment of the fight. The well's empty but he still has pride. And then Jones from the athletic side, who became a shadow of his former self when he lost it. That transition from kinetic flow to animations from a PS1 game.

Junior was never world level, but his run from Spike to Groves was impressive. I've just looked at his record and didn't realise DeGale was almost 7 years ago, when his attempt to adopt a new style was deemed fairly unsuccessful.

Benn boxed well and held a couple of decent shots, but the credit he deserves for that has to be in relative isolation. Boots, Ortiz, Murta and Zayas are all unbeaten, and then there's Fundora. In pursuing Eubank he's probably made it harder for himself.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn II | PPV - 15 November 2025

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gilgamesh wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 20:32 Not sure what you're getting at with the morality of it all. Boxing as a whole really isn't especially moral in a lot of ways at its core, but there was nothing inherently unfair about anything about Eubank vs Benn 2.

The weight might be an excuse, but I think the damage that Benn did to Eubank in that 1st bout had a lot to do with the performance we got from Eubank tonight as well.

I don't think Eubank took the kinda punishment anyone needs to be having any ethical dilemmas about. I'd imagine there are other people on the card that came out just as bad or worse.
Well most fights are starting from the position of both guys having taking PEDs either recently or at some point in the past. Trainers and everyone else know what the game is. It's a game for cheats rather than the honorable way it's portrayed. There might be respect afterwards in the same way that a lot of inmates in jail would have respect for each other. They are amongst their own kind at the end of the day and enjoying making their money from it.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 20:25
keithmoonhangover wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 20:03
Cyclops wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 19:26
Give over, Keith. Eubank went into that ring knowing he was dead at the weight for the paycheque. He'd accepted defeat long before the fight so of course he wasn't upset to lose. I expect Fury wanted to win hence he was upset.
He ain't tight at the weight. For the morning of the fight weigh ins for both fights, he weighed in well under 170 fully clothed. He wasn't dead at the weight, he just wasn't right mentally.
Not just mentally. It’s how much you’re allowed to rehydrate to..

I said it before. Crawford-Canelo. Crawford was coming up 2 weights, maybe even 3 really. But canelo didn’t have any clauses. He was allow to weigh in whatever he wanted after the weigh in.
When he fights at 160, he never weighs more than 170 on the morning of the fight.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn II | PPV - 15 November 2025

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NazNaci1 wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 20:39
SticknMove wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 20:26
NazNaci1 wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 19:50
Immoral. From a purist and fan viewpoint, probably.

As boxer (which I'm obvs not) and a grown man, making lots of money, accepting the terms is down to you. You can always say No, but its that money thing again, so in that sense, probably not.

Can't really tell a fighter not to take the money, if he feels he wants to.

Sadly death and accidents are always possible, so can't really begrudge anyone.
Seriously?

So top end elite level fighters is moral but lower level marketable quality ‘soap opera vendetta/love’ matched can only meet a certain threshold for it to moral.
'Elite'? 'Soap Opera'? Who mentioned any of that? My point was a broader, general one, applicable to all.

Nothing to do with 'elite' or 'soap opera' types. Not sure where you got the idea I am differentiating. Maybe it's me and I was not very clear.

In simpler terms, as a fan, I do not like all this stuff, as probably most fans. However, as a fighter, you have to decide if you choose the money, even if it disadvantages you. More often than not, the answer is yes and who can blame them.

We have quite a few ex-pro's here and they can tell you, more often than not, the odds were heavily stacked against them but you do it as you are getting paid. Is it right? No, not really (being disadvantaged). Should they not do it because I don't like it?
There is a market for elite level fights that the general public care less about. But a market for 'soap opera named quality kids from their fathers'. Is that fair? They capture a moment/event. The imagination is captured and the ticket/social media/ ppv gets sold. Is that fair? Is it moral?
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Coco wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 20:06
dr_devious wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 20:05 The writing has been on the wall for Chris Jr since the shocking KO loss against Liam Smith a couple of years ago. He should call it a day now.
He doesn't need the money, and never really had the ambition to fight for a world title, it was the pound note for him
Which makes me think he'll be back for the trilogy fight :witzend:
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CaptainSpacerod wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 21:34
Coco wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 20:06
dr_devious wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 20:05 The writing has been on the wall for Chris Jr since the shocking KO loss against Liam Smith a couple of years ago. He should call it a day now.
He doesn't need the money, and never really had the ambition to fight for a world title, it was the pound note for him
Which makes me think he'll be back for the trilogy fight :witzend:
Sounds like he'll have to get down to 147 or 154 to have it :lol:
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Most probably.

More money generated for that trilogy. Moral, ethical or otherwise.
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I wonder what their purses were tonight compared to for the first fight. I assume a smaller crowd and fewer PPV buys means less money. Maybe a 3rd fight just wouldn’t be viable.

It certainly wouldn’t as a sporting contest
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CaptainSpacerod wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 21:58 I wonder what their purses were tonight compared to for the first fight. I assume a smaller crowd and fewer PPV buys means less money. Maybe a 3rd fight just wouldn’t be viable.

It certainly wouldn’t as a sporting contest
The Saudis seem happy to lose money for the publicity of being involved in big boxing events.
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TheLeprechaun wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 21:06
gilgamesh wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 20:32 Not sure what you're getting at with the morality of it all. Boxing as a whole really isn't especially moral in a lot of ways at its core, but there was nothing inherently unfair about anything about Eubank vs Benn 2.

The weight might be an excuse, but I think the damage that Benn did to Eubank in that 1st bout had a lot to do with the performance we got from Eubank tonight as well.

I don't think Eubank took the kinda punishment anyone needs to be having any ethical dilemmas about. I'd imagine there are other people on the card that came out just as bad or worse.
Well most fights are starting from the position of both guys having taking PEDs either recently or at some point in the past. Trainers and everyone else know what the game is. It's a game for cheats rather than the honorable way it's portrayed. There might be respect afterwards in the same way that a lot of inmates in jail would have respect for each other. They are amongst their own kind at the end of the day and enjoying making their money from it.
It's been that way since always though. Usually worse than it is now honestly. In the 1950's and 1960's the Mob was heavily involved in fixing fights.

In the 1920's many commissions didn't give decisions out of fear that Judges could be paid off, and results fixed which is why you have so many No Contest results in the early 20th century in Boxing.

Don King came out of Prison for Murder to become a major Manager, and then the biggest Promoter in the business in the 1980's all the while doing crooked deals, and screwing over fighters under contract to him.

All things considered it's been more shady in the past, but some level of dishonesty and crookedness just kinda comes with the territory. By the violent nature of it, and the relatively low amount of participants involved compared to other sports it'll be an easier target for any kind of shady doings.

That being said. I don't know what if anything was crooked about this bout.
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Dave Allen got it right
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Right man won
Why did they boo Turki ?
Or give him a lull reception
That wasn't nice :shame:
Look at the fights he's made and what he has done for boxing
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Evander wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 23:18 Right man won
Why did they boo Turki ?
Or give him a lull reception
That wasn't nice :shame:
Look at the fights he's made and what he has done for boxing
Look at who he is, and what he has done to nourish his own ego.
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CaptainSpacerod wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 21:58 I wonder what their purses were tonight compared to for the first fight. I assume a smaller crowd and fewer PPV buys means less money. Maybe a 3rd fight just wouldn’t be viable.
Was fixed purses.

Same as first fight.

£10m Eubank
£8m Benn
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Evander wrote: 15 Nov 2025, 23:18 Right man won
Why did they boo Turki ?
Or give him a lull reception
That wasn't nice :shame:
Look at the fights he's made and what he has done for boxing
Well I'm guessing 'their' human rights record, maybe?
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Idiot Eubank :lol:

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