No Mas: 45 Years Later. What Really Did Happened in New Orleans?

[elmersalsa]

As we know, it was a Tuesday night like today, November 25th, 1980. The anticipated rematch at the Louisiana Super Dome in New Orleans, LA, between Roberto Duran of Panama City, Panama, the WBC World and Linear Welterweight Champion and the man he took the title from, America's Darling, Sugar Ray Leonard of Palmer Park, MD.

A bizarre match in one of boxing's most famous fights due to its strange ending, it never happened before in the history of boxing.

Already crowned welterweight champion after dominating the lightweight class for almost 7 years with 12 defenses, (11 by knockout), Duran, the famous Hands of Stone known by boxing fans, was considered a sure-lock boxing hall of famer and one of the greatest boxers in boxing history.

Duran at 29 years of age, was 72-1, with 56 knockouts! An unbelievable record at the time, and his only loss against Esteban De Jesus of Puerto Rico were avenged by brutal fashion by knockout. Duran had not lost a match since November 1972. A period of 8 years. The Ring Magazine proclaimed him as the Fighter of the 1970s Decade without a doubt. As the best fighter in the world, Duran had a remarkable 41-fight winning streak.

In the other hand of the coin, Leonard at 24, wanted a rematch that in his training camp, had a disagreement of strategic and technical approach after his first loss with his long time trainer David Jacobs, who told Leonard that it was too soon for a rematch and that he advised Leonard to take some tune-up fights before facing Duran again.

Jacobs saw that if Leonard loses again to Duran merely 5 months time that it would not be great for his professional career and probably his career as a boxer would be over or not the same, and would result a retirement for good. No more Sugar Ray. He was a flash in a pan if he loses. At a young career of only 29 fights, Leonard's only loss was to the one Duran. Jacobs left camp.

Leonard became obsessed with Duran after losing his first professional fight. He vowed to train harder and to change strategy. He studied Duran closely. Maybe too closely. He watched the first fight tape and learned from his errors. Religiously, the tape watching became an obsession and finally a decision to fight Hands of Stone again. At 24, Sugar Ray learned a lot.

History claims that Duran blown up to almost 200 lbs. That he was a party animal in New York City. He could not do any wrong. He felt that he was the King of the World. At least in New York.

When the rematch began, it was totally different. The sneer that he brought to every fight was replaced with doubts. Maybe he thought that he could whup Leonard on his sleep. Maybe he understimated the enemy too much. Or maybe, $8 million dollars was enough not to train as hard as he could. Like he is used to. Probably he forgot that he was facing an extraordinary boxer, a complete fighter that maybe was the best America had ever had or seen. Plus, Ray Charles sang "America the Beautiful" and the ring Duran wished should have been a little shorter. It was designed for Sugar Ray to run all night. Duran is in an ambush. Nothing is in his favor.

But, for whatever the reason, Sugar Ray was ready for his revenge. He was different this time. His confidence was better than the fight before. His motivation was priceless. Everything was perfect. He even wore black shorts and black boots and black socks to look meaner. His concentration was on point.

As the fight was happening, it was very different than the first. Leonard used lateral movement and speed, mixing it up and not giving angles. He made Duran uneasy. And by the 7th round, it showed. Duran was uneasy and Leonard was mocking his manhood. A fake bolo and a left jab in Duran's face made it worse. Duran was feeling humiliated. The crowd roared for laughs.

By the 8th round, Leonard started to take control. A good right. A good left. He is out boxing Manos de Piedra. All of the sudden, at 2:44 of the round, at the high point of the fight, Duran turns his back and unbelievable quit. Duran has quit!" Duran has quit!" Duran has quit!" There's no longer explanation!" That's what ABC Sports Boxing announcer, the late Howard Cossell yelled. Sugar Ray is again the WBC Linear Welterweight Champion of the World!

By the time Duran quit, the scorecards were close. Duran was losing by one point in one scorecard and by two points in the other two.

Why did he quit? What really happened in New Orleans? This fight never had a right answer. It never had. The only thing was that Duran quit. Your comments, please.

[elmersalsa]

Roberto Duran complained of "stomach cramps". Was it true? Not even his own closest of friends believed him. Until this day, Duran claims that he had cramps. .

Duran turned his back on Sugar Ray Leonard. And Panama turned his back on him. To many Latin American macho men that revered him and loved him as an example of Latin grit and machismo, Duran betrayed them. Did he really disappointed them? Some had the nerve to say that he was a coward and have no heart. What about the 73 fights before he quit? Was he a coward then?

But, this fight showed me a lot of things. I learned a lot of things from this fight. First, nobody is invincible in boxing. At some point, you lose a fight sometime, somewhere. Second, I can see now Duran's friends who they really were. Many of them deserted him after No Mas. It's like the song by John Lennon, "Nobody Loves You, When You Are Down and Out".
Third, instead his closest of fans encourage him to get up and still have faith in him, they left him like a lost dog in an empty highway.

[elmersalsa]

I cried a lot. I really did. The year 1980 wasn't too kind for me. Thirteen days later, John Lennon was shot and killed. A month before No Mas, Muhammad Ali was beaten soundly by Larry Holmes. And George Brett hit that moon shot against my Reggie Jackson' Yankees in the 1980 ALCS. How much could I take?

[Scypion]

I always wondered if Duran simply had to take a crap and did not think he could wait 7 more rounds while also fighting SRL?

[goose 5]

Quitting in the middle of a round was common in Continental Europe.

[elmersalsa]

Quitting in the middle of a round was common in Continental Europe.

But, this fight was different. It was between the two biggest superstars in the boxing world. The whole world was watching. It was something never done in a big fight of that magnitude.

This fight, the No Mas fiasco, had more questions than answers. I knew that this fight was going to be talked about for years. It's been 45 years now. I suffered a lot when this fight is brought up. But, not now. Maybe time is the greatest healer. Plus, the real story behind the scenes gave me a different perspective about the fight and the world in general.

[cfang]

Is there any other comparable fight? At world championship level anyway?

[keithmoonhangover]

1. Leonard completely outboxes and outclasses Duran.
2. Duran feels embarrassed and ashamed.
3. Duran quits to avoid further embarrassment.
4. Leonard wins.
5. Duran loses.
6. Duran come up with a completely fictional excuse.
7. Duran is booed out of the arena with his reputation in tatters.
8. Leonard avenges his only defeat and proves he's the better man.

[goose 5]

My money was on SRL and I had it 5-1-1 . However, on subsequent viewings I come up with a 4-3 card for SRL. I would have loved to have seen Leonard employ those tactics in Montreal as I have my doubts that he would have beaten Duran on that night.

[Ambling Alp II]

1. Leonard completely outboxes and outclasses Duran.
2. Duran feels embarrassed and ashamed.
3. Duran quits to avoid further embarrassment.
4. Leonard wins.
5. Duran loses.
6. Duran come up with a completely fictional excuse.
7. Duran is booed out of the arena with his reputation in tatters.
8. Leonard avenges his only defeat and proves he's the better man.

That is what happened.

[elmersalsa]

1. Leonard completely outboxes and outclasses Duran.
2. Duran feels embarrassed and ashamed.
3. Duran quits to avoid further embarrassment.
4. Leonard wins.
5. Duran loses.
6. Duran come up with a completely fictional excuse.
7. Duran is booed out of the arena with his reputation in tatters.
8. Leonard avenges his only defeat and proves he's the better man.

No, you are totally wrong my brother. The narrative fits America for their own purpose. America got to be the greatest. Remember that.

1. Roberto Duran kicked Sugar Ray Leonard's ass. He humiliated Sugar Ray, America and Leonard's wife. It cannot be stayed that way. Something has to be done.

2. Duran enjoyed the fruits of his labor after a hard fight. Leonard saw the opportunity for a quick rematch when Duran ballooned to 200lbs.

3. Don King and Mike Trainer, Leonard's manager, flew to Panama to negotiate for the rematch and flew to Panama to negotiate with Duran's manager, Carlos Eleta. They gave Eleta $8 million dollars and Eleta greediness took over. He never told Duran nothing after the fact. After he signed the dotted line.

4. Duran asked Don King, his own promoter since 1975, for an extension and postponement. King declined the postponement and told Duran to kick rocks and if he didn't come to fight, he was going to get sued by a hefty amount of money.

5. Duran was BETRAYED and SOLD by his own manager and his own promoter for their best interests to make much more millions for a third fight that probably would have paid both fighters $20 million dollars if Sugar Ray wins. It backfired by Duran quitting.

6. It was a dirty fix to accommodate Sugar Ray and not Duran. The ring was enlarged 21' x 21', no training time for Duran and Ray Charles, Sugar Ray's mama's idol, sang America the Beautiful. Duran walked into an ambush.

7. Duran could have been dead and killed by climbing that ring with the shape that he was in. It was a miracle that he went 8 rounds! Tired and out of shape and nothing on his favor, he saw the BULLSHIT and he quit. He saw the bullshit between the lines. He got betrayed big time.

8. It was one of the biggest betrayals that ever happened in boxing history. Never a manager has ever betrayed his own fighter for millions of dollars. It has been been done since.

9. Never in the history of boxing, a desperate manager travels to another country and offers the rival manager that amount of money. It has never been done in the history of boxing and it will never be done again. Like I said before: It was a BEAUTIFUL STRATEGY.

10. The sport of boxing is as dirty as it can be. Everything was strange. Everything was fishy. Everything was creepy. America got to be the greatest. Another loss by Sugar Ray against Duran, then, no more money, no more Sugar Ray and no more America's Darling.


Greetings. Have a good day.

[keithmoonhangover]

1. Leonard completely outboxes and outclasses Duran.
2. Duran feels embarrassed and ashamed.
3. Duran quits to avoid further embarrassment.
4. Leonard wins.
5. Duran loses.
6. Duran come up with a completely fictional excuse.
7. Duran is booed out of the arena with his reputation in tatters.
8. Leonard avenges his only defeat and proves he's the better man.

No, you are totally wrong my brother. The narrative fits America for their own purpose. America got to be the greatest. Remember that.

1. Roberto Duran kicked Sugar Ray Leonard's ass. He humiliated Sugar Ray, America and Leonard's wife. It cannot be stayed that way. Something has to be done.

2. Duran enjoyed the fruits of his labor after a hard fight. Leonard saw the opportunity for a quick rematch when Duran ballooned to 200lbs.

3. Don King and Mike Trainer, Leonard's manager, flew to Panama to negotiate for the rematch and flew to Panama to negotiate with Duran's manager, Carlos Eleta. They gave Eleta $8 million dollars and Eleta greediness took over. He never told Duran nothing after the fact. After he signed the dotted line.

4. Duran asked Don King, his own promoter since 1975, for an extension and postponement. King declined the postponement and told Duran to kick rocks and if he didn't come to fight, he was going to get sued by a hefty amount of money.

5. Duran was BETRAYED and SOLD by his own manager and his own promoter for their best interests to make much more millions for a third fight that probably would have paid both fighters $20 million dollars if Sugar Ray wins. It backfired by Duran quitting.

6. It was a dirty fix to accommodate Sugar Ray and not Duran. The ring was enlarged 21' x 21', no training time for Duran and Ray Charles, Sugar Ray's mama's idol, sang America the Beautiful. Duran walked into an ambush.

7. Duran could have been dead and killed by climbing that ring with the shape that he was in. It was a miracle that he went 8 rounds! Tired and out of shape and nothing on his favor, he saw the BULLSHIT and he quit. He saw the bullshit between the lines. He got betrayed big time.

8. It was one of the biggest betrayals that ever happened in boxing history. Never a manager has ever betrayed his own fighter for millions of dollars. It has been been done since.

9. Never in the history of boxing, a desperate manager travels to another country and offers the rival manager that amount of money. It has never been done in the history of boxing and it will never be done again. Like I said before: It was a BEAUTIFUL STRATEGY.

10. The sport of boxing is as dirty as it can be. Everything was strange. Everything was fishy. Everything was creepy. America got to be the greatest. Another loss by Sugar Ray against Duran, then, no more money, no more Sugar Ray and no more America's Darling.


Greetings. Have a good day.

Aw, bless you. You do make me laugh sometimes.

[elmersalsa]

1. Leonard completely outboxes and outclasses Duran.
2. Duran feels embarrassed and ashamed.
3. Duran quits to avoid further embarrassment.
4. Leonard wins.
5. Duran loses.
6. Duran come up with a completely fictional excuse.
7. Duran is booed out of the arena with his reputation in tatters.
8. Leonard avenges his only defeat and proves he's the better man.

No, you are totally wrong my brother. The narrative fits America for their own purpose. America got to be the greatest. Remember that.

1. Roberto Duran kicked Sugar Ray Leonard's ass. He humiliated Sugar Ray, America and Leonard's wife. It cannot be stayed that way. Something has to be done.

2. Duran enjoyed the fruits of his labor after a hard fight. Leonard saw the opportunity for a quick rematch when Duran ballooned to 200lbs.

3. Don King and Mike Trainer, Leonard's manager, flew to Panama to negotiate for the rematch and flew to Panama to negotiate with Duran's manager, Carlos Eleta. They gave Eleta $8 million dollars and Eleta greediness took over. He never told Duran nothing after the fact. After he signed the dotted line.

4. Duran asked Don King, his own promoter since 1975, for an extension and postponement. King declined the postponement and told Duran to kick rocks and if he didn't come to fight, he was going to get sued by a hefty amount of money.

5. Duran was BETRAYED and SOLD by his own manager and his own promoter for their best interests to make much more millions for a third fight that probably would have paid both fighters $20 million dollars if Sugar Ray wins. It backfired by Duran quitting.

6. It was a dirty fix to accommodate Sugar Ray and not Duran. The ring was enlarged 21' x 21', no training time for Duran and Ray Charles, Sugar Ray's mama's idol, sang America the Beautiful. Duran walked into an ambush.

7. Duran could have been dead and killed by climbing that ring with the shape that he was in. It was a miracle that he went 8 rounds! Tired and out of shape and nothing on his favor, he saw the BULLSHIT and he quit. He saw the bullshit between the lines. He got betrayed big time.

8. It was one of the biggest betrayals that ever happened in boxing history. Never a manager has ever betrayed his own fighter for millions of dollars. It has been been done since.

9. Never in the history of boxing, a desperate manager travels to another country and offers the rival manager that amount of money. It has never been done in the history of boxing and it will never be done again. Like I said before: It was a BEAUTIFUL STRATEGY.

10. The sport of boxing is as dirty as it can be. Everything was strange. Everything was fishy. Everything was creepy. America got to be the greatest. Another loss by Sugar Ray against Duran, then, no more money, no more Sugar Ray and no more America's Darling.


Greetings. Have a good day.

Aw, bless you. You do make me laugh sometimes.

You also make me laugh, too. My dear brother. Maybe you are not American. You need to study more about creepy deals. Have you ever investigated this fight?

The whole thing was creepy and fishy. It should not be that way. It took the win out of Sugar Ray Leonard who looked sensational that night. But, he never had to do this by paying a greedy and desperate manager like Carlos Eleta.

Those are the behind of scenes stuff that you will never understand and probably would not like to understand. Because it would not fit your narrative nor America's.

[keithmoonhangover]

No, you are totally wrong my brother. The narrative fits America for their own purpose. America got to be the greatest. Remember that.

1. Roberto Duran kicked Sugar Ray Leonard's ass. He humiliated Sugar Ray, America and Leonard's wife. It cannot be stayed that way. Something has to be done.

2. Duran enjoyed the fruits of his labor after a hard fight. Leonard saw the opportunity for a quick rematch when Duran ballooned to 200lbs.

3. Don King and Mike Trainer, Leonard's manager, flew to Panama to negotiate for the rematch and flew to Panama to negotiate with Duran's manager, Carlos Eleta. They gave Eleta $8 million dollars and Eleta greediness took over. He never told Duran nothing after the fact. After he signed the dotted line.

4. Duran asked Don King, his own promoter since 1975, for an extension and postponement. King declined the postponement and told Duran to kick rocks and if he didn't come to fight, he was going to get sued by a hefty amount of money.

5. Duran was BETRAYED and SOLD by his own manager and his own promoter for their best interests to make much more millions for a third fight that probably would have paid both fighters $20 million dollars if Sugar Ray wins. It backfired by Duran quitting.

6. It was a dirty fix to accommodate Sugar Ray and not Duran. The ring was enlarged 21' x 21', no training time for Duran and Ray Charles, Sugar Ray's mama's idol, sang America the Beautiful. Duran walked into an ambush.

7. Duran could have been dead and killed by climbing that ring with the shape that he was in. It was a miracle that he went 8 rounds! Tired and out of shape and nothing on his favor, he saw the BULLSHIT and he quit. He saw the bullshit between the lines. He got betrayed big time.

8. It was one of the biggest betrayals that ever happened in boxing history. Never a manager has ever betrayed his own fighter for millions of dollars. It has been been done since.

9. Never in the history of boxing, a desperate manager travels to another country and offers the rival manager that amount of money. It has never been done in the history of boxing and it will never be done again. Like I said before: It was a BEAUTIFUL STRATEGY.

10. The sport of boxing is as dirty as it can be. Everything was strange. Everything was fishy. Everything was creepy. America got to be the greatest. Another loss by Sugar Ray against Duran, then, no more money, no more Sugar Ray and no more America's Darling.


Greetings. Have a good day.

Aw, bless you. You do make me laugh sometimes.

You also make me laugh, too. My dear brother. Maybe you are not American. You need to study more about creepy deals. Have you ever investigated this fight?

The whole thing was creepy and fishy. It should not be that way. It took the win out of Sugar Ray Leonard who looked sensational that night. But, he never had to do this by paying a greedy and desperate manager like Carlos Eleta.

Those are the behind of scenes stuff that you will never understand and probably would not like to understand. Because it would not fit your narrative nor America's.

My darling Elmer. Duran was not forced to fight Leonard. He, and he alone, had final say on whether he should take the fight with Leonard on the 25th of November 1980. The only conspiracy is in your head, I'm afraid. If your a man, a real man, you'll admit to yourself that most of your post is entirely fictional. Or maybe your mother didn't raise you right.

[elmersalsa]

Aw, bless you. You do make me laugh sometimes.

You also make me laugh, too. My dear brother. Maybe you are not American. You need to study more about creepy deals. Have you ever investigated this fight?

The whole thing was creepy and fishy. It should not be that way. It took the win out of Sugar Ray Leonard who looked sensational that night. But, he never had to do this by paying a greedy and desperate manager like Carlos Eleta.

Those are the behind of scenes stuff that you will never understand and probably would not like to understand. Because it would not fit your narrative nor America's.

My darling Elmer. Duran was not forced to fight Leonard. He, and he alone, had final say on whether he should take the fight with Leonard on the 25th of November 1980. The only conspiracy is in your head, I'm afraid. If your a man, a real man, you'll admit to yourself that most of your post is entirely fictional. Or maybe your mother didn't raise you right.

My dude, it's a fact that Don King was going to sue Roberto Duran if he didn't stepped in to the ring. Duran asked for a postponement. He got denied. What the hell you want Duran to do?

After King gave you that money, he expects you to come to fight. Do You think that King gave $8 million dollars to Carlos Eleta for nought?

Duran got into that ring weak, drained and with no fire. It was reflected on the fight. He was hoodwinked, betrayed and sold. It didn't had to be that way. But, professional boxing is a dirty business.

[keithmoonhangover]

You also make me laugh, too. My dear brother. Maybe you are not American. You need to study more about creepy deals. Have you ever investigated this fight?

The whole thing was creepy and fishy. It should not be that way. It took the win out of Sugar Ray Leonard who looked sensational that night. But, he never had to do this by paying a greedy and desperate manager like Carlos Eleta.

Those are the behind of scenes stuff that you will never understand and probably would not like to understand. Because it would not fit your narrative nor America's.

My darling Elmer. Duran was not forced to fight Leonard. He, and he alone, had final say on whether he should take the fight with Leonard on the 25th of November 1980. The only conspiracy is in your head, I'm afraid. If your a man, a real man, you'll admit to yourself that most of your post is entirely fictional. Or maybe your mother didn't raise you right.

My dude, it's a fact that Don King was going to sue Roberto Duran if he didn't stepped in to the ring. Duran asked for a postponement. He got denied. What the hell you want Duran to do?

After King gave you that money, he expects you to come to fight. Do You think that King gave $8 million dollars to Carlos Eleta for nought?

Duran got into that ring weak, drained and with no fire. It was reflected on the fight. He was hoodwinked, betrayed and sold. It didn't had to be that way. But, professional boxing is a dirty business.

Duran signed to fight Leonard on that date. You are mentally unwell if you think he entered the ring against his will.

[elmersalsa]

Is there any other comparable fight? At world championship level anyway?

Maybe Clay vs Liston I and II

[elmersalsa]

My darling Elmer. Duran was not forced to fight Leonard. He, and he alone, had final say on whether he should take the fight with Leonard on the 25th of November 1980. The only conspiracy is in your head, I'm afraid. If your a man, a real man, you'll admit to yourself that most of your post is entirely fictional. Or maybe your mother didn't raise you right.

My dude, it's a fact that Don King was going to sue Roberto Duran if he didn't stepped in to the ring. Duran asked for a postponement. He got denied. What the hell you want Duran to do?

After King gave you that money, he expects you to come to fight. Do You think that King gave $8 million dollars to Carlos Eleta for nought?

Duran got into that ring weak, drained and with no fire. It was reflected on the fight. He was hoodwinked, betrayed and sold. It didn't had to be that way. But, professional boxing is a dirty business.

Duran signed to fight Leonard on that date. You are mentally unwell if you think he entered the ring against his will.

Roberto Duran didn't signed. He was in New York City. Look for the facts. Do your research.

Do you think that Duran would sign a contract by the state he was in party mode? Nobody in their right mind would. As a matter of fact, he never saw nor read the contract.

[keithmoonhangover]

My dude, it's a fact that Don King was going to sue Roberto Duran if he didn't stepped in to the ring. Duran asked for a postponement. He got denied. What the hell you want Duran to do?

After King gave you that money, he expects you to come to fight. Do You think that King gave $8 million dollars to Carlos Eleta for nought?

Duran got into that ring weak, drained and with no fire. It was reflected on the fight. He was hoodwinked, betrayed and sold. It didn't had to be that way. But, professional boxing is a dirty business.

Duran signed to fight Leonard on that date. You are mentally unwell if you think he entered the ring against his will.

Roberto Duran didn't signed. He was in New York City. Look for the facts. Do your research.

Do you think that Duran would sign a contract by the state he was in party mode? Nobody in their right mind would. As a matter of fact, he never saw nor read the contract.

Elmer, Duran took the fight on his own free will. If he didn't want to take the fight, he wouldn't have. He took the fight, then quit like a bitch when it didn't go his way.

[elmersalsa]

Duran signed to fight Leonard on that date. You are mentally unwell if you think he entered the ring against his will.

Roberto Duran didn't signed. He was in New York City. Look for the facts. Do your research.

Do you think that Duran would sign a contract by the state he was in party mode? Nobody in their right mind would. As a matter of fact, he never saw nor read the contract.

Elmer, Duran took the fight on his own free will. If he didn't want to take the fight, he wouldn't have. He took the fight, then quit like a bitch when it didn't go his way.

No, he didn't signed. That is wrong information. Carlos Eleta, his greedy manager, did it all for him. He had to quit. Nothing was in his favor and he knew that he got hoodwinked and betrayed. It was an evil and wicked sham.

[keithmoonhangover]

Roberto Duran didn't signed. He was in New York City. Look for the facts. Do your research.

Do you think that Duran would sign a contract by the state he was in party mode? Nobody in their right mind would. As a matter of fact, he never saw nor read the contract.

Elmer, Duran took the fight on his own free will. If he didn't want to take the fight, he wouldn't have. He took the fight, then quit like a bitch when it didn't go his way.

No, he didn't signed.

He signed. His choice. Live with it.

[Ezzard]

For Duran to beat Leonard he had to be absolutely on his game physically and mentally. He was for the first fight and he wasn't for the second fight. His ego got in the way or maybe he had peaked in Montreal anyway. He never looked the same and never performed with the same intensity ever again post-Montreal.

There was a great piece by a journalist whose name esacpes me. I've posted about the article many times on here before. he was in Duran's changing room after the fight. He had an excellent view of what happened as he was there. I'll see if I can dig it out.

How great it was to have lived through the careers of these guys.

[keithmoonhangover]

For Duran to beat Leonard he had to be absolutely on his game physically and mentally. He was for the first fight and he wasn't for the second fight. His ego got in the way or maybe he had peaked in Montreal anyway. He never looked the same and never performed with the same intensity ever again post-Montreal.

There was a great piece by a journalist whose name esacpes me. I've posted about the article many times on here before. he was in Duran's changing room after the fight. He had an excellent view of what happened as he was there. I'll see if I can dig it out.

How great it was to have lived through the careers of these guys.

Please do Ezz, I can't say that I've ever read it.

[elmersalsa]

Elmer, Duran took the fight on his own free will. If he didn't want to take the fight, he wouldn't have. He took the fight, then quit like a bitch when it didn't go his way.

No, he didn't signed.

He signed. His choice. Live with it.

No, he didn't. Do your research.

[Ambling Alp II]

1. Leonard completely outboxes and outclasses Duran.
2. Duran feels embarrassed and ashamed.
3. Duran quits to avoid further embarrassment.
4. Leonard wins.
5. Duran loses.
6. Duran come up with a completely fictional excuse.
7. Duran is booed out of the arena with his reputation in tatters.
8. Leonard avenges his only defeat and proves he's the better man.

No, you are totally wrong my brother. The narrative fits America for their own purpose. America got to be the greatest. Remember that.

1. Roberto Duran kicked Sugar Ray Leonard's ass. He humiliated Sugar Ray, America and Leonard's wife. It cannot be stayed that way. Something has to be done.

2. Duran enjoyed the fruits of his labor after a hard fight. Leonard saw the opportunity for a quick rematch when Duran ballooned to 200lbs.

3. Don King and Mike Trainer, Leonard's manager, flew to Panama to negotiate for the rematch and flew to Panama to negotiate with Duran's manager, Carlos Eleta. They gave Eleta $8 million dollars and Eleta greediness took over. He never told Duran nothing after the fact. After he signed the dotted line.

4. Duran asked Don King, his own promoter since 1975, for an extension and postponement. King declined the postponement and told Duran to kick rocks and if he didn't come to fight, he was going to get sued by a hefty amount of money.

5. Duran was BETRAYED and SOLD by his own manager and his own promoter for their best interests to make much more millions for a third fight that probably would have paid both fighters $20 million dollars if Sugar Ray wins. It backfired by Duran quitting.

6. It was a dirty fix to accommodate Sugar Ray and not Duran. The ring was enlarged 21' x 21', no training time for Duran and Ray Charles, Sugar Ray's mama's idol, sang America the Beautiful. Duran walked into an ambush.

7. Duran could have been dead and killed by climbing that ring with the shape that he was in. It was a miracle that he went 8 rounds! Tired and out of shape and nothing on his favor, he saw the BULLSHIT and he quit. He saw the bullshit between the lines. He got betrayed big time.

8. It was one of the biggest betrayals that ever happened in boxing history. Never a manager has ever betrayed his own fighter for millions of dollars. It has been been done since.

9. Never in the history of boxing, a desperate manager travels to another country and offers the rival manager that amount of money. It has never been done in the history of boxing and it will never be done again. Like I said before: It was a BEAUTIFUL STRATEGY.

10. The sport of boxing is as dirty as it can be. Everything was strange. Everything was fishy. Everything was creepy. America got to be the greatest. Another loss by Sugar Ray against Duran, then, no more money, no more Sugar Ray and no more America's Darling.


Greetings. Have a good day.

Aw, bless you. You do make me laugh sometimes.

Sometimes he does doesn't he? He really believes this crap.