Elif Nur Turhan blasting her way through females, Is Caroline Dubois in trouble?

[TheLeprechaun]

She ran through Beatriz Ferrera who was seen as one of the better boxers in the female game. She also ran through Shauna Browne recently.

She appears to be amateurish and wild but she is game and is coming directly for her opponent with massive hooks.

Despite being raw, the sheer tenacity of her style seems enough to overpower high level opponents. She is also willing to take punches to land her own. I think with the way women are not big punchers she is going to be able to get away with this and force 50:50 slinging matches in fights. The odds turn in her favour though because she is non stop windmilling hooks and has a solid chin.

Caroline will come in trying to box but as far as I'm concerned you have to give Turhan something to be concerned about or she will put you on a youtube highlight video as she did with Beatriz last night. Beatriz appeared to be out cold for a moment while she was upright and then took another brutal hook for good measure.

[TheLeprechaun]

Keep in mind that Caroline publicly ducked Beatriz and wanted absolutely no part of her, turning down any talk of a fight. In the same interview she then berated Teri Harper for ducking a fight with Caroline. Ironic.

[smiling assassin]

I’m not up to date on women’s boxing so after reading about her bout last night I watched her fight. Whilst she clearly holds power she is very raw. To be honest I think that’s where the power comes from (being raw). Anyone swinging that wildly would be capable of hurting their opponent if they copped one

[Boxerbeetle]

Dunno really, but I seem to remember Dubois taking a bit of a battering towards the end of her (last?) fight and didn’t seem remotely keen on having a brawl, which didn’t bode well for this matchup.

[JamesPhilips]

Cringe. Any man who boxed like that, let alone a world champion would be a viral object of ridicule

[skanksta]

Cringe. Any man who boxed like that, let alone a world champion would be a viral object of ridicule

Not if they got a brutal early KOs.. ?

[Stobbo]

Who cares
Absolutely indefensible standard

[NazNaci1]

Who cares
Absolutely indefensible standard

Maybe so, but women's boxing is poor generally, quality wise (that British lass who outpointed that other scouse British lass, has some good boxing ability, too).

2 mins of slapathon and ZZzzzz decisions. Along comes someone who can actually punch.

Chrissie Martin and Anne Wolfe could both bang and the only ones I remember who could bang like this (and harder) and had some skill. Elif is very crude and raw but does have some power and is pretty gung-ho, so that is a plus, entertainment wise.

Sure she can be outboxed and probably will be and maybe even stopped due to being so wild but its much better entertainment than the usual snore-fests. She is, at least, worth watching.

You could see Fast car was grinning ear to ear, licking his lips, as he can really push the hype train out on her.

Can't really compare it male boxing as the guys have a lot more guys with power and technique.

[knockout]

Waiting for an adverse urine sample allegedly !!
Fought amateur at featherweight 126lbs same day weigh in, with very average results … 2 years later fighting pro at 134lb day before weigh in and blasting everyone out.

Unless I am missing something that stinks a bit

[NazNaci1]

Waiting for an adverse urine sample allegedly !!
Fought amateur at featherweight 126lbs same day weigh in, with very average results … 2 years later fighting pro at 134lb day before weigh in and blasting everyone out.

Unless I am missing something that stinks a bit

Well, her AM results were not bad, got the 1/4's etc in International competitions and won most of her bouts by KO / stoppage. Of course, lost some too, which obv shows she can be outboxed but looks like she always had power.

As for the weight, she can make Super Feather (130lbs) and is the No1 contender for Alycia Baumgardner but moved up and took on Beatriz Ferreira as she was not in line for a shot.

Apparently, she may drop back down to take on Baumgardner as she can still make that weight pretty easily.

She has fought 99% of the time in her opponents back yard and never had an issue with testing. She looks strong in the arms, thighs and forearms, and really swings her hips, when she throws.

Can and probably, will be outboxed but she can certainly crack, which makes a pleasant change.

[skanksta]

She's a breath of fresh air.
Makes WB exciting for a change.
AND I think she's a big step on the way to it being good at last. I mean, obviously she is crap and wild and "can be outboxed" etc, but then so are big punchers in the mens (Wilder). She's the first woman where I've thought, "I really wanna see her next fight, cos I might see a brutal KO!" None of us have ever thought that about a woman before.
I hope she makes a lot of money..

[MPW]

She is a long way from being a "good" boxer, but that's okay. Her wild, swinging from the hip style brings an element of KO excitement to women's boxing that many have complained is lacking. Nur Turhan may very well get outboxed in the future, but whomever uses that strategy will have to be intently focused for the entirety of the round because pitter-patter slaps aren't going to dissuade her from coming forward with hurtful intentions. Unfortunately, she may also find herself in track meets disguised as boxing matches.

[knockout]

Waiting for an adverse urine sample allegedly !!
Fought amateur at featherweight 126lbs same day weigh in, with very average results … 2 years later fighting pro at 134lb day before weigh in and blasting everyone out.

Unless I am missing something that stinks a bit

Well, her AM results were not bad, got the 1/4's etc in International competitions and won most of her bouts by KO / stoppage. Of course, lost some too, which obv shows she can be outboxed but looks like she always had power.

As for the weight, she can make Super Feather (130lbs) and is the No1 contender for Alycia Baumgardner but moved up and took on Beatriz Ferreira as she was not in line for a shot.

Apparently, she may drop back down to take on Baumgardner as she can still make that weight pretty easily.

She has fought 99% of the time in her opponents back yard and never had an issue with testing. She looks strong in the arms, thighs and forearms, and really swings her hips, when she throws.

Can and probably, will be outboxed but she can certainly crack, which makes a pleasant change.

Thanks for info and excuse my cynical view :)

A match with Baumgardner would be the two biggest punchers in the women’s game!

Exciting for sure

[NazNaci1]

Waiting for an adverse urine sample allegedly !!
Fought amateur at featherweight 126lbs same day weigh in, with very average results … 2 years later fighting pro at 134lb day before weigh in and blasting everyone out.

Unless I am missing something that stinks a bit

Well, her AM results were not bad, got the 1/4's etc in International competitions and won most of her bouts by KO / stoppage. Of course, lost some too, which obv shows she can be outboxed but looks like she always had power.

As for the weight, she can make Super Feather (130lbs) and is the No1 contender for Alycia Baumgardner but moved up and took on Beatriz Ferreira as she was not in line for a shot.

Apparently, she may drop back down to take on Baumgardner as she can still make that weight pretty easily.

She has fought 99% of the time in her opponents back yard and never had an issue with testing. She looks strong in the arms, thighs and forearms, and really swings her hips, when she throws.

Can and probably, will be outboxed but she can certainly crack, which makes a pleasant change.

Thanks for info and excuse my cynical view :)

A match with Baumgardner would be the two biggest punchers in the women’s game!

Exciting for sure

Nothing to excuse and not really cynical, to be fair to you. We were all probably caught a bit off guard

I knew as much about her as the next fan but after that win, I thought i might as well find out a bit about her as I really am not a fan of WB but she, at least makes it a little more exciting.

[Cyclops]

A bit of a female Deontay Wilder eh, but they need an exciting fighter like that who'll chuck leather if they can't really hurt each other with straight punches and fight two minute rounds. What's there to keep her off? Like heavyweight is almost a bit of a different sport to the rest of boxing, so women's boxing is a different sport to mens. Men and women have different attributes: as WB develops the best fighters will be the ones who are able to make those attributes work towards an entertaining spectacle where they fight 'like women' as opposed to trying to replicate the way men fight.

[gilgamesh]

If they teach this girl a good jab, and work on her defense, she'll be unstoppable. She hits like 5 times as hard as almost any other Female boxer. Including ones that are heavier than her.

[JxhDel.]

She has whips for arms, despite the basic technique.

[gilgamesh]

A bit of a female Deontay Wilder eh, but they need an exciting fighter like that who'll chuck leather if they can't really hurt each other with straight punches and fight two minute rounds. What's there to keep her off? Like heavyweight is almost a bit of a different sport to the rest of boxing, so women's boxing is a different sport to mens. Men and women have different attributes: as WB develops the best fighters will be the ones who are able to make those attributes work towards an entertaining spectacle where they fight 'like women' as opposed to trying to replicate the way men fight.

I think the rare talents that come along that make you say "She fights like a man" are going to be the ones that wind up being the most memorable and dominant in Women's Boxing. They'll be rare, but those are the ones that'll capture people's attention.

Turhan might be one of those types.

From what I can tell fighting like a Woman leaves us with 10 Million less talented Paulie Malignaggi's slapping at each other with not a knockdown or a knockout in sight in most contests.

[2412885]

The way Elif Nur Turhan is just steamrolling through everyone right now is absolute madness because that kind of relentless windmilling and raw power is something most technical boxers just aren't prepared to handle. If she can keep forcing these elite fighters into ugly slinging matches, then Caroline Dubois definitely needs to find a way to make her respect the power early or she might end up as just another highlight on a viral video.
Turhan is definitely the ultimate disruptor in the division right now, and her chin seems to be made of granite which makes her a terrifying puzzle to solve. I am really curious to see if Caroline’s footwork will be enough to stay out of the way of those massive hooks for the whole fight.

[MPW]

Nur Turhan struggled with Gentzen in her last outing, a SD win at the end of January. While Gentzen had never been stopped, her record was built against limited competition in Australia and Thailand.

I believe Dubois would avoid trouble early and box her way to a UD, even a wide UD. For Nur Turhan, she would have to hurt her early and, if not stopping her, make Dubois put on her track shoes to stay away.

[gilgamesh]

Nur Turhan struggled with Gentzen in her last outing, a SD win at the end of January. While Gentzen had never been stopped, her record was built against limited competition in Australia and Thailand.

I believe Dubois would avoid trouble early and box her way to a UD, even a wide UD. For Nur Turhan, she would have to hurt her early and, if not stopping her, make Dubois put on her track shoes to stay away.

She did indeed struggle in that fight, but she had fought her last bout prior to that one only about 45 or 50 days earlier so it could've been too quick of a turnaround for her. I'm not saying that's the case, but floating it out there as a possibility.

She doesn't has rudimentary foot movement, and isn't worth a sh*t at cutting off the ring, but she has a potent right hand and a decent jab.

[NazNaci1]

Nur Turhan struggled with Gentzen in her last outing, a SD win at the end of January. While Gentzen had never been stopped, her record was built against limited competition in Australia and Thailand.

I believe Dubois would avoid trouble early and box her way to a UD, even a wide UD. For Nur Turhan, she would have to hurt her early and, if not stopping her, make Dubois put on her track shoes to stay away.

She did indeed struggle in that fight, but she had fought her last bout prior to that one only about 45 or 50 days earlier so it could've been too quick of a turnaround for her. I'm not saying that's the case, but floating it out there as a possibility.

She doesn't has rudimentary foot movement, and isn't worth a sh*t at cutting off the ring, but she has a potent right hand and a decent jab.

I'm with you, Gil.

She was also unwell and had flu in the lead up to her last fight. So add that to a quick turnaround in fights and all in all, probably left her flat.

Regarding her last fight and it being a SD. I watched that and how anyone could have given that to Gentzen is baffling. She did nothing but hold for 6 rounds and just tried to survive, which she did, but to pick up one card? C'mon, no way. She didn't do anything, except grab.

As for Dubois, her team did all they could to avoid Ferreira, openly declining that fight as 'not right'. Dubois is a better boxer but is picky who she fights. She was lucky to beat Bo Shin. Dubois is not as good as Ferreira.

I am pretty sure Turan walks through her. She has genuine KO power in either hand, is wild, fast but open. She is gutsy too. Not seen too many women with one punch power, but she has it.

[gilgamesh]

Yeah Women in Boxing that can punch are so rare i just give em nicknames like Hitgirl and Hitgirl 2 lol.

I doubt I'll ever reach the 30's with that.

If a girl ever comes along that can box and punch I'll have to call her Supergirl. Ain't seen one of them yet