Dave Allen.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Ruthless-RKO]

Love it

[golden_labrador]

if Khan had had Allen's chin

[Old bones Ian]

if Khan had had Allen's chin

To be fair to Khan his stoppage losses bar one were against world class and p4p boxers.
Allen has stoppage losses against domestic class boxers bar one loss against Ortiz

[joshj909]

if Khan had had Allen's chin

To be fair to Khan his stoppage losses bar one were against world class and p4p boxers.
Allen has stoppage losses against domestic class boxers bar one loss against Ortiz

His stoppage losses were due to his defence, stamina and just being outclassed. His chin is an all time great contender.

[Old bones Ian]

if Khan had had Allen's chin

To be fair to Khan his stoppage losses bar one were against world class and p4p boxers.
Allen has stoppage losses against domestic class boxers bar one loss against Ortiz

His stoppage losses were due to his defence, stamina and just being outclassed. His chin is an all time great contender.

I like Allen , his chin is good but please an all time great contender???

[Ruthless-RKO]

Khan was hit with plenty of power shots and didn’t go down.

His chin wasn’t the worst. Yeh, he got dropped a few times as well but always back on his feet ready to go again.

He had a ‘never give up’ attitude.

The Canelo KO, would have stopped anyone.

[joshj909]

To be fair to Khan his stoppage losses bar one were against world class and p4p boxers.
Allen has stoppage losses against domestic class boxers bar one loss against Ortiz

His stoppage losses were due to his defence, stamina and just being outclassed. His chin is an all time great contender.

I like Allen , his chin is good but please an all time great contender???

Yes. He was a punchbag taking tonnes of clean shots against many heavy hitting heavyweights and hasn't gone down once. It's a hypothetical title as it's impossible to prove but he is no doubt a contender

[sharpei_louis]

Khan was hit with plenty of power shots and didn’t go down.

His chin wasn’t the worst. Yeh, he got dropped a few times as well but always back on his feet ready to go again.

He had a ‘never give up’ attitude.

The Canelo KO, would have stopped anyone.

Khan was wobbled in almost every single fight. He put on a chin-best performance vs Maidana but apart from that was wobbled and on jelly legs, KO'd horribly a number of times - Prescott, Garcia, Canelo... dancing round the ring vs Limond at the start of his career and then again at the end off a Brook jab...
If his chin isn't the worst - even Audley Harrison struggles to compete with his highlight reel of KOs and KDs - then whose do you think is?

[keithmoonhangover]

Khan was hit with plenty of power shots and didn’t go down.

His chin wasn’t the worst. Yeh, he got dropped a few times as well but always back on his feet ready to go again.

He had a ‘never give up’ attitude.

The Canelo KO, would have stopped anyone.

Khan was wobbled in almost every single fight. He put on a chin-best performance vs Maidana but apart from that was wobbled and on jelly legs, KO'd horribly a number of times - Prescott, Garcia, Canelo... dancing round the ring vs Limond at the start of his career and then again at the end off a Brook jab...
If his chin isn't the worst - even Audley Harrison struggles to compete with his highlight reel of KOs and KDs - then whose do you think is?

No he wasn't.

[Boxerbeetle]

I certainly can’t think of many boxers more fragile than Khan? David Price maybe?

[keithmoonhangover]

I certainly can’t think of many boxers more fragile than Khan? David Price maybe?

What about guys who didn't make it that far and have more stoppage losses?

[jonp]

Khan was hit with plenty of power shots and didn’t go down.

His chin wasn’t the worst. Yeh, he got dropped a few times as well but always back on his feet ready to go again.

He had a ‘never give up’ attitude.

The Canelo KO, would have stopped anyone.

Khan was wobbled in almost every single fight. He put on a chin-best performance vs Maidana but apart from that was wobbled and on jelly legs, KO'd horribly a number of times - Prescott, Garcia, Canelo... dancing round the ring vs Limond at the start of his career and then again at the end off a Brook jab...
If his chin isn't the worst - even Audley Harrison struggles to compete with his highlight reel of KOs and KDs - then whose do you think is?

Tbf khan fought
Dib
Lo greco
Algerie
Alexander
Collazo
Molina
Judah
Mclosky
Malignaggi
Salita
Peterson
Kotelnick
Barrera
Fagen
St Clair
Earl
Lawton
Bull
Plus 10 or 11 early fights without a wobble
Survived a wobble v maidana

He got up off the floor to win v
Limond
Gomez?
Diaz
Vargas
For me this is a plus not easy to get off the floor to win.

Then got stopped or kod
Crawford
Brook
Alverez
Garcia
Prescott
with only Prescott out of those guys not being top of their division kind of quality.

Khan was a fast handed attacking fighter who takes risks. Anybody with that style against this level is going to hit the deck. Floyd Patterson hit the deck more times in his fights v Johannson than Khan did in his whole career.

So to say he was wobbled in every fight is a little wrong and to think he has the worst chin ever is crazy.
Floyd Patterson for example as already mentioned had over 23 career knockdowns against him. Khan I think had about 13 or 14? Not saying he was made of steel but not as bad as people make out.

[joshj909]

I certainly can’t think of many boxers more fragile than Khan? David Price maybe?

What about guys who didn't make it that far and have more stoppage losses?

It's difficult to establish what that means for a quality of chin because someone with better defence or offence isn't going to get hit as many times or as cleanly so they're inevitably going to get caught less.

[mickey1975]

In judging, amateur at least, coming back from adversity is scoring criteria.

[THEBUTCH]

Of all the debates on this forum I never expected to see this one

If Allen had tried to win as hard as Khan did in his fights I'm pretty sure there would be more stoppage defeats and probably more conclusive in nature. There's no doubting Allen's toughness & durability, but just look at the wins Khan posted through his career.

[margaret thatcher]

khan was chinny. he was hurt or dropped by a wide level of fighters, not just top guys, not just big punchers. he got wobbled by a jab - please dont give me nonsense that this would happen to a guy like allen if hed just been trying harder. done in under a minute before.

he didnt have the worst chin ever though. those guys are the ones who wont make it to a high enough level for people to remember them as well. look at a guy like daniel martz, and there are guys worse than that. khan also had pretty good recovery. he was much much easier to hurt than to finish, whereas some guys they are pretty much done once you get them in trouble.

allen has an excellent chin. eaten loads of flush shots from good punchers. often with his head in a position where he wouldnt have seen all the shots coming. the 'if he only tried harder'' applies more to guys who shelled up and so didnt get hit as much as if theyd been more offensive, but allen is getting hit with the big shots already. and some of his losses allen was trying plenty, just not good enough.

if khan had allen's chin, he's not taken nearly as many knockdowns, not getting done in a round by prescott and probably able to make his class show as it went on. not being shaken up as much by peterson and thus maybe able to win a few more rounds and get the decision (which i thought he deserved anyway). but his best opponents....i think they were working out the timing when they finished him, and wouldve been able to outpoint him even if he stayed in the fight

[gilgamesh]

Khan was hit with plenty of power shots and didn’t go down.

His chin wasn’t the worst. Yeh, he got dropped a few times as well but always back on his feet ready to go again.

He had a ‘never give up’ attitude.

The Canelo KO, would have stopped anyone.

Khan was wobbled in almost every single fight. He put on a chin-best performance vs Maidana but apart from that was wobbled and on jelly legs, KO'd horribly a number of times - Prescott, Garcia, Canelo... dancing round the ring vs Limond at the start of his career and then again at the end off a Brook jab...
If his chin isn't the worst - even Audley Harrison struggles to compete with his highlight reel of KOs and KDs - then whose do you think is?

You've never heard of the guy who had the worst chin. He got knocked out once or twice in his first few fights and found a new line of work

[jamesmcdonnell]

khan was chinny. he was hurt or dropped by a wide level of fighters, not just top guys, not just big punchers. he got wobbled by a jab - please dont give me nonsense that this would happen to a guy like allen if hed just been trying harder. done in under a minute before.

he didnt have the worst chin ever though. those guys are the ones who wont make it to a high enough level for people to remember them as well. look at a guy like daniel martz, and there are guys worse than that. khan also had pretty good recovery. he was much much easier to hurt than to finish, whereas some guys they are pretty much done once you get them in trouble.

allen has an excellent chin. eaten loads of flush shots from good punchers. often with his head in a position where he wouldnt have seen all the shots coming. the 'if he only tried harder'' applies more to guys who shelled up and so didnt get hit as much as if theyd been more offensive, but allen is getting hit with the big shots already. and some of his losses allen was trying plenty, just not good enough.

if khan had allen's chin, he's not taken nearly as many knockdowns, not getting done in a round by prescott and probably able to make his class show as it went on. not being shaken up as much by peterson and thus maybe able to win a few more rounds and get the decision (which i thought he deserved anyway). but his best opponents....i think they were working out the timing when they finished him, and wouldve been able to outpoint him even if he stayed in the fight

Im certain Barrera would have stopped him if hed not been cut.

[TheLeprechaun]

Gomez also had him chicken dancing I think

[gregregegg]

Khan was hit with plenty of power shots and didn’t go down.

His chin wasn’t the worst. Yeh, he got dropped a few times as well but always back on his feet ready to go again.

He had a ‘never give up’ attitude.

The Canelo KO, would have stopped anyone.

Khan was wobbled in almost every single fight. He put on a chin-best performance vs Maidana but apart from that was wobbled and on jelly legs, KO'd horribly a number of times - Prescott, Garcia, Canelo... dancing round the ring vs Limond at the start of his career and then again at the end off a Brook jab...
If his chin isn't the worst - even Audley Harrison struggles to compete with his highlight reel of KOs and KDs - then whose do you think is?

You've never heard of the guy who had the worst chin. He got knocked out once or twice in his first few fights and found a new line of work

Exactly. Even the bad chins in boxing are amoungst the good chins.

My cousin tells a story of a mate he had growing up in a small town who use to go out and get drunk fight army boys every other weekend… story goes he could fight unreal and would be winning against one, two, three or even 4 at once… but the second he got hit he was out cold…

Khan is chinny at world levle… but there are guys that are chinny at any levle (but you will never know there name).

[mickey1975]

There was a kid called Chris Hooper, trained under Wharton for a while, Hooperman, and wasn't a bad amateur. Had a great start to the pros and then started getting knocked out. Regularly and quickly. He blamed a hair loss product years down the line and swears it's true and is going after them.

[smiling assassin]

Tom Dallas had 10 losses and was stopped in 9 of them.

I think it’s a bit harder to judge if heavyweights are chinny or not though because all the big lads must be able to crack to a certain degree

[Coco]

Peter Gabbidini was a good amateur, matched tough, got stopped a few times

[Coco]

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