Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

[Boxerbeetle]

When they have no other big money options

They both have plenty of money & also plenty of options.

My personal view is that Fury would hate to lose to Joshua. And I love both blokes so that's not a diss. I just have this doubt that Fury takes this fight for that reason. Hopefully I am proved wrong.

When they both were champions, it seemed like Joshua was less eager to face Fury than vice versa. Now, since Fury isn't eager to continue his career at all, he can try to price himself out more and thus to sabotage this bout.

It never seemed like that at all. Fury is the only one with a proven history of ducking / pricing himself out / faking retirement.

[Frostieballs]

They both have plenty of money & also plenty of options.

My personal view is that Fury would hate to lose to Joshua. And I love both blokes so that's not a diss. I just have this doubt that Fury takes this fight for that reason. Hopefully I am proved wrong.

When they both were champions, it seemed like Joshua was less eager to face Fury than vice versa. Now, since Fury isn't eager to continue his career at all, he can try to price himself out more and thus to sabotage this bout.

It never seemed like that at all. Fury is the only one with a proven history of ducking / pricing himself out / faking retirement.

I’m with you on that.

[DrDuke]

They both have plenty of money & also plenty of options.

My personal view is that Fury would hate to lose to Joshua. And I love both blokes so that's not a diss. I just have this doubt that Fury takes this fight for that reason. Hopefully I am proved wrong.

When they both were champions, it seemed like Joshua was less eager to face Fury than vice versa. Now, since Fury isn't eager to continue his career at all, he can try to price himself out more and thus to sabotage this bout.

It never seemed like that at all. Fury is the only one with a proven history of ducking / pricing himself out / faking retirement.

Well, his ducking started only when Usyk got rid of Joshua. When there was the Joshua-Wilder pricing out, Fury stepped in and kicked Wilder out of the scene. Fury wasn't pricing himself out, stepped in not from the best position and faced not best contractual obligations.

[mickey1975]

Fury has literally had 5 fights with Wilder and Usyk and won his title dethroning Wlad in Germany. To suggest he ducked AJ is either just silly or people are trying to set a narrative.
Ps I know about Price, the guy he boxed when he was 17 for a trophy and a ham sandwich.

[keithmoonhangover]

Fury has literally had 5 fights with Wilder and Usyk and won his title dethroning Wlad in Germany. To suggest he ducked AJ is either just silly or people are trying to set a narrative.
Ps I know about Price, the guy he boxed when he was 17 for a trophy and a ham sandwich.

This isn't about him fighting Wilder, Usyk and Wlad.

Fury priced himself out when he demanded more money than Joshua, name first and ring walk first, despite not having a licence because he's a dirty lying drug cheat. You said you, "play the Fury fanboy" on here, so if it's just you playing a part, maybe you can look at this in an unbiased way?

[mickey1975]

Fury has literally had 5 fights with Wilder and Usyk and won his title dethroning Wlad in Germany. To suggest he ducked AJ is either just silly or people are trying to set a narrative.
Ps I know about Price, the guy he boxed when he was 17 for a trophy and a ham sandwich.

This isn't about him fighting Wilder, Usyk and Wlad.

Fury priced himself out when he demanded more money than Joshua, name first and ring walk first, despite not having a licence because he's a dirty lying drug cheat. You said you, "play the Fury fanboy" on here, so if it's just you playing a part, maybe you can look at this in an unbiased way?

I stand by everything I said on this. Merry Christmas!

[keithmoonhangover]

Fury has literally had 5 fights with Wilder and Usyk and won his title dethroning Wlad in Germany. To suggest he ducked AJ is either just silly or people are trying to set a narrative.
Ps I know about Price, the guy he boxed when he was 17 for a trophy and a ham sandwich.

This isn't about him fighting Wilder, Usyk and Wlad.

Fury priced himself out when he demanded more money than Joshua, name first and ring walk first, despite not having a licence because he's a dirty lying drug cheat. You said you, "play the Fury fanboy" on here, so if it's just you playing a part, maybe you can look at this in an unbiased way?

I stand by everything I said on this. Merry Christmas!

You too.

[Grilling Machine]

If Nadal loses to Federer. He can play him again next year, or the year after that, or the year after that, or the year after that.

Boxing offers no such luxuries for repeated redemption.

It used to though, didn't it. Looking at old records it's not uncommon to see the same name 4 or 5 times.

[gilgamesh]

If Nadal loses to Federer. He can play him again next year, or the year after that, or the year after that, or the year after that.

Boxing offers no such luxuries for repeated redemption.

It used to though, didn't it. Looking at old records it's not uncommon to see the same name 4 or 5 times.

That's true, but I think that comes down to the fact that back then nobody except the people in the building saw the fight. I don't know about you, but there ain't many fights I wanna see 4 times

[keithmoonhangover]

If Nadal loses to Federer. He can play him again next year, or the year after that, or the year after that, or the year after that.

Boxing offers no such luxuries for repeated redemption.

It used to though, didn't it. Looking at old records it's not uncommon to see the same name 4 or 5 times.

That's true, but I think that comes down to the fact that back then nobody except the people in the building saw the fight. I don't know about you, but there ain't many fights I wanna see 4 times

Fury-Chisora?

[Frostieballs]

If Nadal loses to Federer. He can play him again next year, or the year after that, or the year after that, or the year after that.

Boxing offers no such luxuries for repeated redemption.

It used to though, didn't it. Looking at old records it's not uncommon to see the same name 4 or 5 times.

That's true, but I think that comes down to the fact that back then nobody except the people in the building saw the fight. I don't know about you, but there ain't many fights I wanna see 4 times

I think it comes down to the fact that the purses weren’t so high and boxers fought more often.

In the 80’s/90’s champions were out 3/4 times a year. More often before that.

We got Champions now fighting 1/2 a year.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[golden_labrador]

the betting will be wild on this. how many times does AJ knock Fury down? How many times does AJ get wobbly dancing legs after Fury clips him?

I'll go for AJ winning by KO unless Fury comes in 100% as good a condition as possible at this point in his career. Fury's easier to hit than Usyk

[TheLeprechaun]

I always fancied Joshua by KO in this fight.

[keithmoonhangover]

Always thought Fury would toy with AJ until the Ngannou fight. I think Joshua will find it hard to catch him clean. Gun to my head, Fury on points.

[Grilling Machine]

Fury-Chisora?

[keithmoonhangover]

Fury-Chisora?

Drop and give me infinity.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[gilgamesh]

Hey come to think of it AJ has never fought Chisora right? They should do that fight.

I mean don't get me wrong he should fight Fury first just in case Chisora would chin him, but I feel like he could fight Chis either after or before the Fury fight since Chis will never go away

[Nightmare Roy]

Think Eddie is reaching a bit with all that guff TBH

[Ruthless-RKO]

allegedly reiterates Tyson Fury will knock out Anthony Joshua

Over a week has passed since Anthony Joshua stopped Jake Paul in the sixth round of their bizarre heavyweight fight in Miami.

A worldwide audience of around 33 million tuned in to Netflix to see the 36-year-old Londoner break Paul’s jaw and clear another hurdle between he and a belated but gigantic all-British clash with two-time heavyweight champion, Tyson Fury.

The fight is far from agreed and both men look certain to take interim fights before negotiations about dates, venues and — most importantly — purses can even begin.

It is believed that Joshua (29-4, 26 KOs) will box again in February or March — legendary Dutch kickboxer Rico Verhoeven has been touted as a potential opponent — whilst rumours persist that if Fury (34-2-1, 24 KOs) does end his retirement, he will do so against Canadian-based Russian, Arslanbek Makhmudov.

Fury’s long-time promoter, allegedly, didn’t need to see Joshua labour through five rounds with Paul to shore up his long-held conviction that The Ring's former heavyweight champion has the beating of the two-time unified champion but he is now more confident than ever that Fury, 37, will prove himself the better man in conclusive fashion.

“Tyson will knock him out,” Warren said during an appearance on Sky Sports’ Toe2Toe podcast. “I know he'll knock him out.

“I’ll base it on the fact that he's a big puncher. I'll base it on the fact that AJ is not hard to hit and that he's in with a boxer. He's in with a fighter, a proper fighter. A big fighter who's got a big punch, and who also has got a big chin. Tyson's got good recovery.

“You've seen it yourself. He’s been on the floor and when you think it's all over, he's got up and come back and won fights. He's done that.”

The fight with Paul was Joshua’s first since he was knocked out by Daniel Dubois in the fifth round of a dramatic IBF heavyweight title fight in September 2024 and Warren hasn’t seen anything to shake his belief that Fury will repeat the trick.

“AJ's vulnerable. I feel as confident about him fighting AJ as I did when Daniel Dubois fought him.”

[Ezzard]

Fury has literally had 5 fights with Wilder and Usyk and won his title dethroning Wlad in Germany. To suggest he ducked AJ is either just silly or people are trying to set a narrative.
Ps I know about Price, the guy he boxed when he was 17 for a trophy and a ham sandwich.

This isn't about him fighting Wilder, Usyk and Wlad.

Fury priced himself out when he demanded more money than Joshua, name first and ring walk first, despite not having a licence because he's a dirty lying drug cheat. You said you, "play the Fury fanboy" on here, so if it's just you playing a part, maybe you can look at this in an unbiased way?

Mate, you know AJ has TUEs for illegal substances? Ali and Tyson tooks steroids. Pac, Mayweather...

[Glass Joe]

Not really read into the car crash but the universe doesnt want the fight to happen either

[joshj909]

Fury has literally had 5 fights with Wilder and Usyk and won his title dethroning Wlad in Germany. To suggest he ducked AJ is either just silly or people are trying to set a narrative.
Ps I know about Price, the guy he boxed when he was 17 for a trophy and a ham sandwich.

This isn't about him fighting Wilder, Usyk and Wlad.

Fury priced himself out when he demanded more money than Joshua, name first and ring walk first, despite not having a licence because he's a dirty lying drug cheat. You said you, "play the Fury fanboy" on here, so if it's just you playing a part, maybe you can look at this in an unbiased way?

Mate, you know AJ has TUEs for illegal substances? Ali and Tyson tooks steroids. Pac, Mayweather...

Was there ever actually any evidence of this?

[keithmoonhangover]

Fury has literally had 5 fights with Wilder and Usyk and won his title dethroning Wlad in Germany. To suggest he ducked AJ is either just silly or people are trying to set a narrative.
Ps I know about Price, the guy he boxed when he was 17 for a trophy and a ham sandwich.

This isn't about him fighting Wilder, Usyk and Wlad.

Fury priced himself out when he demanded more money than Joshua, name first and ring walk first, despite not having a licence because he's a dirty lying drug cheat. You said you, "play the Fury fanboy" on here, so if it's just you playing a part, maybe you can look at this in an unbiased way?

Mate, you know AJ has TUEs for illegal substances? Ali and Tyson tooks steroids. Pac, Mayweather...

Any evidence?