Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
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Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
I think Eddie being smart, would 100% want to keep him away from Isaac Cruz for awhile, you don’t want to be going hell for leather like that against the pitbull. If he boxes him and avoids trading, then yes he wins. But with the crowd roaring, he seems the type that likes to bring the action
One of the best away wins we’ve seen in a long time. Hardly anyone predicted Smith would be knocking this guy out
One of the best away wins we’ve seen in a long time. Hardly anyone predicted Smith would be knocking this guy out
Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
What a brilliant, heart-warming win. A proper fighter winning a proper belt the proper way, away from home by KO. Good on him, and I hope he makes some money from it - no-one could begrudge him a easy first defence after that.
Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
What a showing from Dalton Smith
Thats how you get it done
Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
Was it almost Honeyghan curry type performance?
Real gutys showing from the lad, I wasn't sure he had it in him.
Always glad to be proven wrong.
Real gutys showing from the lad, I wasn't sure he had it in him.
Always glad to be proven wrong.
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Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
29% of boxrecers in the poll didMightyWarrior wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 09:12 I think Eddie being smart, would 100% want to keep him away from Isaac Cruz for awhile, you don’t want to be going hell for leather like that against the pitbull. If he boxes him and avoids trading, then yes he wins. But with the crowd roaring, he seems the type that likes to bring the action
One of the best away wins we’ve seen in a long time. Hardly anyone predicted Smith would be knocking this guy out
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forcefraser
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Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
Was a great win and really happy for the lad.
Let's give it some perspective though. Matthias is tough as nails, but he's not an elite killer
Liam Paro beat him clearly on Mathias's home turf.
It's a huge win. But its no Honey v Curry
Let's give it some perspective though. Matthias is tough as nails, but he's not an elite killer
Liam Paro beat him clearly on Mathias's home turf.
It's a huge win. But its no Honey v Curry
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Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
I honestly don't think Pitbull is anywhere near as good as the hype around him.MightyWarrior wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 09:12 I think Eddie being smart, would 100% want to keep him away from Isaac Cruz for awhile, you don’t want to be going hell for leather like that against the pitbull. If he boxes him and avoids trading, then yes he wins. But with the crowd roaring, he seems the type that likes to bring the action
One of the best away wins we’ve seen in a long time. Hardly anyone predicted Smith would be knocking this guy out
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handsofstone
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Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
No disrespect to Donald Curry but was his resume p4p no1 worthy at any stage of his career??
I know he was generally regarded no1 at that point but 2 close wins against Starling and knocking out McCrory make you top dawg? McCrory's best win is a 10 round decision over DeWitt, I don't mean to sh1t on Marlon Starling or Milton McCrory or especially Honeyghan but surely I'm talking a bit of sense here
Still regardless Smith going over 2 america to knock out a dangerous 2 time world champ is some going, always rated him, his ring IQ is elite, can do it all really but in a textbook fashion
I know he was generally regarded no1 at that point but 2 close wins against Starling and knocking out McCrory make you top dawg? McCrory's best win is a 10 round decision over DeWitt, I don't mean to sh1t on Marlon Starling or Milton McCrory or especially Honeyghan but surely I'm talking a bit of sense here
Still regardless Smith going over 2 america to knock out a dangerous 2 time world champ is some going, always rated him, his ring IQ is elite, can do it all really but in a textbook fashion
Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
Yes and no. I agree with you on his record. But at the same time he looked electric. Curry made light of Colin Jones (though he was always a slow starter). McCrory also beat Jones and got a draw.handsofstone wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 11:13 No disrespect to Donald Curry but was his resume p4p no1 worthy at any stage of his career??
I know he was generally regarded no1 at that point but 2 close wins against Starling and knocking out McCrory make you top dawg? McCrory's best win is a 10 round decision over DeWitt, I don't mean to sh1t on Marlon Starling or Milton McCrory or especially Honeyghan but surely I'm talking a bit of sense here
Still regardless Smith going over 2 america to knock out a dangerous 2 time world champ is some going, always rated him, his ring IQ is elite, can do it all really but in a textbook fashion
But the US needed a new Ray Leonard. It clearly was not Hagler. Curry was their best chance. Then Leonard came back (after telling Curry not to move up in weight - Ray had all the angles inside and outside the ring)
Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
Ring magazine didn’t start doing its p4p rankings until ‘89. Dunno how unanimous the p4p1 actually was up to that point.handsofstone wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 11:13 No disrespect to Donald Curry but was his resume p4p no1 worthy at any stage of his career??
I know he was generally regarded no1 at that point but 2 close wins against Starling and knocking out McCrory make you top dawg? McCrory's best win is a 10 round decision over DeWitt, I don't mean to sh1t on Marlon Starling or Milton McCrory or especially Honeyghan but surely I'm talking a bit of sense here.
Ironically, the first ever Ring p4p1 was a heavyweight - Tyson
Hagler definitely had a better record than Curry in ‘86 when he fought Honeyghan. So he would have a good argument.
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Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
Ezzard wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 11:42Yes and no. I agree with you on his record. But at the same time he looked electric. Curry made light of Colin Jones (though he was always a slow starter). McCrory also beat Jones and got a draw.handsofstone wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 11:13 No disrespect to Donald Curry but was his resume p4p no1 worthy at any stage of his career??
I know he was generally regarded no1 at that point but 2 close wins against Starling and knocking out McCrory make you top dawg? McCrory's best win is a 10 round decision over DeWitt, I don't mean to sh1t on Marlon Starling or Milton McCrory or especially Honeyghan but surely I'm talking a bit of sense here
Still regardless Smith going over 2 america to knock out a dangerous 2 time world champ is some going, always rated him, his ring IQ is elite, can do it all really but in a textbook fashion
But the US needed a new Ray Leonard. It clearly was not Hagler. Curry was their best chance. Then Leonard came back (after telling Curry not to move up in weight - Ray had all the angles inside and outside the ring)
Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
Honeyghan beating Curry was MASSIVE.
Smith beating Matias is brilliant but just a bit below that.
Curry was seen as the next Superstar of boxing. Looking back and dissecting now is not getting just how good he was going into the Honeyghan fight.
Smith beating Matias is brilliant but just a bit below that.
Curry was seen as the next Superstar of boxing. Looking back and dissecting now is not getting just how good he was going into the Honeyghan fight.
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Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
JC wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 11:49Ring magazine didn’t start doing its p4p rankings until ‘89. Dunno how unanimous the p4p1 actually was up to that point.handsofstone wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 11:13 No disrespect to Donald Curry but was his resume p4p no1 worthy at any stage of his career??
I know he was generally regarded no1 at that point but 2 close wins against Starling and knocking out McCrory make you top dawg? McCrory's best win is a 10 round decision over DeWitt, I don't mean to sh1t on Marlon Starling or Milton McCrory or especially Honeyghan but surely I'm talking a bit of sense here.
Ironically, the first ever Ring p4p1 was a heavyweight - Tyson
Hagler definitely had a better record than Curry in ‘86 when he fought Honeyghan. So he would have a good argument.
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Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
We'll have to completely disagree on this one.forcefraser wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 09:11Not so sure. There is a good argument for that having been stopped too early.
He was up and clear, a wobble yes, but he's the champion and it wasbln't a massive knockdown
You see 90% of them carry on.
Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
Please stop
Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
Dalton's win isn't in the same league as Lloyd's victory over Curry. Nowhere near IMO.
Curry was the undisputed world champion and considered "one" of the best in the game at the time....and with good reason.
I suppose it's only natural to draw comparisons and it makes for great forum debates
Personally, I'm so impressed with Smith's triumph I don't feel any urge to go further than say it was one of the great wins for a Brit overseas...especially the manner of victory
Curry was the undisputed world champion and considered "one" of the best in the game at the time....and with good reason.
I suppose it's only natural to draw comparisons and it makes for great forum debates
Personally, I'm so impressed with Smith's triumph I don't feel any urge to go further than say it was one of the great wins for a Brit overseas...especially the manner of victory
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Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
Class from Matias:
“People, what can I say?” said Matias on his social media. “What I never thought would happen, getting knocked out in my career and for the first time they stopped me, something I’m used to doing to others. But I feel it was a bad stoppage, or I don’t know, in other cases I would have preferred they just finish me. But that’s boxing. There’s a referee and he did what he thought was right. What can I tell you? Thanks to everyone for the support, to the haters and the supporters alike. Blessings. We’re still active.”
“People, what can I say?” said Matias on his social media. “What I never thought would happen, getting knocked out in my career and for the first time they stopped me, something I’m used to doing to others. But I feel it was a bad stoppage, or I don’t know, in other cases I would have preferred they just finish me. But that’s boxing. There’s a referee and he did what he thought was right. What can I tell you? Thanks to everyone for the support, to the haters and the supporters alike. Blessings. We’re still active.”
Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
The referee made the correct call in my opinion.
Matias was unsteady and Dalton would have been on him in a flash to finish the job in spectacular fashion. The ref spared Matias from unnecessary punishment.
Matias was unsteady and Dalton would have been on him in a flash to finish the job in spectacular fashion. The ref spared Matias from unnecessary punishment.
Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
Off the top of my head I'd say it's number two in the US since WWII & maybe 3rd overseas after Honeyghan & John H.THEBUTCH wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 12:52 Dalton's win isn't in the same league as Lloyd's victory over Curry. Nowhere near IMO.
Curry was the undisputed world champion and considered "one" of the best in the game at the time....and with good reason.
I suppose it's only natural to draw comparisons and it makes for great forum debates![]()
Personally, I'm so impressed with Smith's triumph I don't feel any urge to go further than say it was one of the great wins for a Brit overseas...especially the manner of victory![]()
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Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
Taansend wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 11:57Please stop![]()
Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
Been an absolute joy to read this thread as feel there's been a really symbolic importance to Dalton's victory.
At the turn of the year I was feeling my lifelong love affair with the sport on the wane - I don't need to explain why as I know many of you have felt the same way.
But waking up to this news lit the spark again - a proper old-school Brit fighter going into a dangerous opponent's backyard and doing the business in style. Against the odds and under the radar.
Brilliant in its own right, but just as importantly a reminder that our sport hasn't completely sold its soul yet.
At the turn of the year I was feeling my lifelong love affair with the sport on the wane - I don't need to explain why as I know many of you have felt the same way.
But waking up to this news lit the spark again - a proper old-school Brit fighter going into a dangerous opponent's backyard and doing the business in style. Against the odds and under the radar.
Brilliant in its own right, but just as importantly a reminder that our sport hasn't completely sold its soul yet.
Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
I think second is a bit high given that Matias was good but not a great. Josh Taylor beating an undefeated two-belt Ramirez for the same title is probably a better win, as is Brook beating an undefeated Shawn Porter, as is Laing beating Duran. But the manner of Dalton's win was really impressive, and I think it's fair enough that we're all a bit giddy given how he won, not just just that he won. I agree with thebutch, and let's hope Smith has even bigger wins to come.Taansend wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 13:31Off the top of my head I'd say it's number two in the US since WWII & maybe 3rd overseas after Honeyghan & John H.THEBUTCH wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 12:52 Dalton's win isn't in the same league as Lloyd's victory over Curry. Nowhere near IMO.
Curry was the undisputed world champion and considered "one" of the best in the game at the time....and with good reason.
I suppose it's only natural to draw comparisons and it makes for great forum debates![]()
Personally, I'm so impressed with Smith's triumph I don't feel any urge to go further than say it was one of the great wins for a Brit overseas...especially the manner of victory![]()
Re: Subriel Matias vs. Dalton Smith | PPV.com - 10 January 2026
Josh's win is off the radar coz of covid but it was a fantastic win.olij999 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 15:09I think second is a bit high given that Matias was good but not a great. Josh Taylor beating an undefeated two-belt Ramirez for the same title is probably a better win, as is Brook beating an undefeated Shawn Porter, as is Laing beating Duran. But the manner of Dalton's win was really impressive, and I think it's fair enough that we're all a bit giddy given how he won, not just just that he won. I agree with thebutch, and let's hope Smith has even bigger wins to come.Taansend wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 13:31Off the top of my head I'd say it's number two in the US since WWII & maybe 3rd overseas after Honeyghan & John H.THEBUTCH wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026, 12:52 Dalton's win isn't in the same league as Lloyd's victory over Curry. Nowhere near IMO.
Curry was the undisputed world champion and considered "one" of the best in the game at the time....and with good reason.
I suppose it's only natural to draw comparisons and it makes for great forum debates![]()
Personally, I'm so impressed with Smith's triumph I don't feel any urge to go further than say it was one of the great wins for a Brit overseas...especially the manner of victory![]()