good fighters remembered for losses/failures

[dookus]

do i dare say audley?

won the euro, a couple of prizefighters.......not a bad career really, but of course he' s thought of almost entirely in terms of his low points

the short few rounds before sprott flattened him, i thought he looked fearsomely fantastic. he was not a bad fighter offensively when he let his hands go

Agree with all that. Although I find it hard to think of him as a former European champion given who he faced for a vacant title.

[JamesPhilips]

A bit unfair as he did very well with 6 world wins but Dave McAuley - Fidel Bassa fights where he lost were legendary. Dave had a great win against Matlala too. I wonder how he is. Very exciting boxer

[KiwiRider]

Come on guys...

George Groves

Not once, but twice.

Who can forget (because he keeps reminding us) when Carl Froch knocked him out at Wembley in front of 85,000 people?

[dan28uk]

Jeff Lacy

was he that good ? i know he had a fearsome reputation before calzaghe and beat some decent fighters including robin reid but just think he was a flat track bully and once exposed was never the same maybe im being harsh

[margaret thatcher]

ya i can see that, although george had a long enough run of success that i still think of that more so when remembering him as a fighter

for me the most memorable fight personally is the degale one, not sure a fight between two british prospects has been that hyped since. and it was a really good fight i thought too, high quality and close and down to the wire. groves rightly got it in an upset at the time

[Frickley]

Billy Hardy went very close against Orlando Canizales first time round before wilting in the heat in a rematch. Had a good euro level career but remembered mainly for getting sparked by naz.

[margaret thatcher]

Jeff Lacy

was he that good ? i know he had a fearsome reputation before calzaghe and beat some decent fighters including robin reid but just think he was a flat track bully and once exposed was never the same maybe im being harsh

lacy was defo hugely overrated, and i said this at the time too, not just afterward. the righting was on the wall in multiple of his previous fights where he was struggling to win rounds, but the showing against reid seemed to really get people crazy.

that said, he is considered almost a joke these days, despite having been a world champ with some wins over fringe contenders and a few recognizable names, albeit no one great. even though he was overrated, he did deserve a top 10 world ranking at his 21-0 peak. after an olmypian amateur career too. so id say despite being greatly overhyped, he still did better than he often gets remembered for

so its kinda a youre both right scenario

[gilgamesh]

Would you guys say Tommy Morrison is primarily thought of as the guy that got pasted by Ray Mercer and Lennox Lewis, and not as the pretty damn good fighter he was?

I know more often than not when you see a clip or highlight of him, it's him on the receiving end of the Mercer KO.

[margaret thatcher]

tommy was so talented offensively

but ya, not only in his boxing career, in his life generally kinda seen as a tragic character rather than for his successes

[mickey1975]

Billy Hardy went very close against Orlando Canizales first time round before wilting in the heat in a rematch. Had a good euro level career but remembered mainly for getting sparked by naz.

I suppose it depends on who's remembering. I remember Billy well and just saw the Naz fight as a cash out. Great boxer, Billy in his prime down in weight. One of the best never to win a world title.

[smiling assassin]

Kevin Kelly was a tremendous fighter but is probably most well known for his loss against Hamed on his American debut

[KiwiRider]

ya i can see that, although george had a long enough run of success that i still think of that more so when remembering him as a fighter

for me the most memorable fight personally is the degale one, not sure a fight between two british prospects has been that hyped since. and it was a really good fight i thought too, high quality and close and down to the wire. groves rightly got it in an upset at the time

He's been in some awesome fights.

But those two losses are two legendary battles. And had huge audiences, especially the rematch. The fact they had two is even better, because good rematches are rare.
The DeGale fight was an epic win, and so was the Eubank Jr win. That was the best Eubank Jr's engine has been, and he threw the kitchen sink at Groves- who toughed out a dislocated shoulder (the gritty bastard) to go on and win it.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Jeff Lacy

Yeah, got to feel for Lacy, he believed his own press clippings, and found out the hardest way possible, he wasn't anywhere near as good as he thought.

According to Enzo, he had to pretty much browbeat Calzaghe into taking the fight as well.

Much to my eternal embarrassment, I changed my prediction of Calzaghe battering him, after watching Lacy demolish Robin Reid. I figured Joe was a little on the slide, and that Lacy was peaking.

[dookus]

Jeff Lacy

was he that good ? i know he had a fearsome reputation before calzaghe and beat some decent fighters including robin reid but just think he was a flat track bully and once exposed was never the same maybe im being harsh

lacy was defo hugely overrated, and i said this at the time too, not just afterward. the righting was on the wall in multiple of his previous fights where he was struggling to win rounds, but the showing against reid seemed to really get people crazy.

I think everyone forgot that the Reid stoppage came off one of the most blatant hits after the break I've ever seen, which went totally unpunished and from which Reid couldn't recover. Seriously flattering win.

[mickey1975]

Bute, although I think he was pushing Jeff Lacy territory the way Hearn hyped him up. There's no way they'd have brought him over if they didn't think he was there for the taking.

[SeanBrennan]

Jeff Lacy

Yeah, got to feel for Lacy, he believed his own press clippings, and found out the hardest way possible, he wasn't anywhere near as good as he thought.

According to Enzo, he had to pretty much browbeat Calzaghe into taking the fight as well.

Much to my eternal embarrassment, I changed my prediction of Calzaghe battering him, after watching Lacy demolish Robin Reid. I figured Joe was a little on the slide, and that Lacy was peaking.

I was exactly the same. Lacy was a tough sod though didn’t quit. Also fought someone when he tore his rotator cuff. Having torn my cuff he must be made of strong stuff.

[SeanBrennan]

Jeff Lacy

was he that good ? i know he had a fearsome reputation before calzaghe and beat some decent fighters including robin reid but just think he was a flat track bully and once exposed was never the same maybe im being harsh

I think he was good, he won a world title but definitely wasn’t as good as he was hyped to be.