The Count Following A Knockdown
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keithmoonhangover
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The Count Following A Knockdown
So, I was always led to believe that when a boxer gets knocked down, the count doesn't begin until the other boxer goes to a neutral corner. It's a long time since Dempsey-Tunney, but that is an example. When someone gets knocked down in a British ring, the count is always taken up based on the timekeeper's count and is never adjusted if a boxer stands over his opponent and doesn't go to the corner. What's the deal?
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: The Count Following A Knockdown
I notice timekeeper starts counting once KD is called. i mean it doesn't always take the other boxer long to get to the other corner.
I assumed it was same in US.
Doesn't the timekeeper start the count there too.
I assumed it was same in US.
Doesn't the timekeeper start the count there too.
Re: The Count Following A Knockdown
Like most everything in boxing, I don't think there's any consistency in how the 10-count is administered. It seems dependent upon the commission overseeing the bout/event.
I do think this is one element that should be standard across all the organizations that conduct boxing matches, regardless of where they're located. However, achieving that objective is another matter entirely.
I do think this is one element that should be standard across all the organizations that conduct boxing matches, regardless of where they're located. However, achieving that objective is another matter entirely.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: The Count Following A Knockdown
most fights i see from around the world have the count start right away, and if the ref isnt able to start immediately they will look over to the time keeper. sometimes the timekeeper will be mic'd up so you can here the count without even looking over
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: The Count Following A Knockdown
I always thought the timekeeper was looking down at the clock and shouted the seconds following that.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Mar 2026, 11:43 most fights i see from around the world have the count start right away, and if the ref isnt able to start immediately they will look over to the time keeper. sometimes the timekeeper will be mic'd up so you can here the count without even looking over
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Old bones Ian
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Re: The Count Following A Knockdown
I believe the current rule of British refs is the away/foreign types boxer doesn't get a count and the fight must be waved over immediately.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: The Count Following A Knockdown
Rule 1a.Old bones Ian wrote: ↑13 Mar 2026, 13:31 I believe the current rule of British refs is the away/foreign types boxer doesn't get a count and the fight must be waved over immediately.
Re: The Count Following A Knockdown
The way it seems to be enforced in practice
is that the count starts when a boxer goes down and is only suspended if their opponent unnecessarily delays going to a neutral corner
is that the count starts when a boxer goes down and is only suspended if their opponent unnecessarily delays going to a neutral corner
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: The Count Following A Knockdown
Yeah, they're often pretty lax about enforcing itkeithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Mar 2026, 07:12I've see guys stand over their opponent and it doesn't alter the count.
Re: The Count Following A Knockdown
Yeh, that's the correct timing. Nowt wrong with that count.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Mar 2026, 11:16 I notice timekeeper starts counting once KD is called. i mean it doesn't always take the other boxer long to get to the other corner.
I assumed it was same in US.
Doesn't the timekeeper start the count there too.
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agarca2014
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Re: The Count Following A Knockdown
Armando Garcia - English and Spanish M anuals
Manual del Tomatiempo y Juez de Caídas - 2026:
https://1drv.ms/b/c/d9b372e4b1c0ae24/IQ ... 4?e=6Kajrn
Timekeeper and Knockdown Judge Manual - 2026:
https://1drv.ms/b/c/d9b372e4b1c0ae24/IQ ... Q?e=594GAf
Manual del Tomatiempo y Juez de Caídas - 2026:
https://1drv.ms/b/c/d9b372e4b1c0ae24/IQ ... 4?e=6Kajrn
Timekeeper and Knockdown Judge Manual - 2026:
https://1drv.ms/b/c/d9b372e4b1c0ae24/IQ ... Q?e=594GAf
Re: The Count Following A Knockdown
'seconds' dont come into itkeithmoonhangover wrote: ↑13 Mar 2026, 12:02I always thought the timekeeper was looking down at the clock and shouted the seconds following that.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Mar 2026, 11:43 most fights i see from around the world have the count start right away, and if the ref isnt able to start immediately they will look over to the time keeper. sometimes the timekeeper will be mic'd up so you can here the count without even looking over
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I think the biggest inconsistency is the "in a position to continue" rule (or not rule) when someone rises.
I remember, ironically Malik Scott vs Derick Chisora being a tad controversial - as Malik seemed to get up and was on the of rising, but the only part of his body that was touching the floor before the word 10 was his feet. It was deemed a fair stoppage by many in the UK press cause Malik was not in a position to continue at 10. Even though he was clearly very coherent and just seemed to mistime the count / or deliberately threw the fight - which was the other accusation.
But then the example of Fury vs Wilder - yes Fury before the words 10 was uttered, the only part of his body on the floor with his feet - but, a bit like Malik, was his in a position to continue at 10? Very debatable - well actually not really - he wasn't.
I remember, ironically Malik Scott vs Derick Chisora being a tad controversial - as Malik seemed to get up and was on the of rising, but the only part of his body that was touching the floor before the word 10 was his feet. It was deemed a fair stoppage by many in the UK press cause Malik was not in a position to continue at 10. Even though he was clearly very coherent and just seemed to mistime the count / or deliberately threw the fight - which was the other accusation.
But then the example of Fury vs Wilder - yes Fury before the words 10 was uttered, the only part of his body on the floor with his feet - but, a bit like Malik, was his in a position to continue at 10? Very debatable - well actually not really - he wasn't.