That was GREAT... Chisora & Wilder

[Coco]

The muppet at the telegraph claiming it was the fight of the century.

It was Jeff Powell in the Mail
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxin ... menubutton

The fight of the year? No. The fight of the decade. No.

This was the Fight of the Century.

Rarely, if ever, in fact, has boxing roared to a prizefight of such relentless action, so many punches of so much devastating power, such exhibitions of courage under bombardment that it will take months for these monumental gladiators to recover. If ever they really do.

He has his pic taken with Ali you know

[golden_labrador]

seems like not being able to stand up properly is a big sign the fighter is done. Povetkin and Whyte both struggled at the end and Chisora spent large parts of last night's fight resting on the canvas for whatever reason and/or wrapped up in the ropes like a WWF wrestler. hopefully he calls it a day.

[Tony1244]

The smacks to the head was like watching 2 cats fight.

[KiwiRider]

Neither was even close to their prime.
There was a fair bit of behind the head punches from Chisora.
It went the distance, when it shouldn't have ever from these two.
Chisora was in poor shape, puffing after two rounds.
The refereeing was abysmal, even by UK standards of abysmal.
Wilder had no pop, gone is the boom.
There was a KD not scored.
There was a point deducted for nothing I could see.

If you thought that was great, your easily pleased, and will probably be getting a semi already for the all women card coming up

[gilgamesh]

There ain't really a ton of bouts between Heavyweights past the age of 40 that were better that will immediately come to mind. I wouldn't think.

It's not that it was a great fight, but I feel like Wilder and Chisora were still Wilder and Chisora, just a slower, older version of what they'd been.

Yes they were both past it, but it all evened out so that it was still a highly competitive matchup, and neither man had a significant edge over the other. I thought it was a good fight. It's really pretty close to how I envisioned the fight in my mind before it went down. I just figured a KO was likely somewhere along the way, but punchers losing that snap on their shots happens.

[jamesmcdonnell]

seems like not being able to stand up properly is a big sign the fighter is done. Povetkin and Whyte both struggled at the end and Chisora spent large parts of last night's fight resting on the canvas for whatever reason and/or wrapped up in the ropes like a WWF wrestler. hopefully he calls it a day.

Yeah, the strength in the legs goes with age, didnt help that chisora was very heavy and out of shape

Please god this is it for chisora now.

[KiwiRider]

There ain't really a ton of bouts between Heavyweights past the age of 40 that were better that will immediately come to mind. I wouldn't think.

It's not that it was a great fight, but I feel like Wilder and Chisora were still Wilder and Chisora, just a slower, older version of what they'd been.

Yes they were both past it, but it all evened out so that it was still a highly competitive matchup, and neither man had a significant edge over the other. I thought it was a good fight. It's really pretty close to how I envisioned the fight in my mind before it went down. I just figured a KO was likely somewhere along the way, but punchers losing that snap on their shots happens.

The most exciting thing about Wilder when he was champ, about the only thing, was he could suddenly go boom and it was over. Without that he is nothing. I found this fight a bit sad. And I don't get excited about two guys who are clearly past it.
We are so starved for any heavyweight action that this fight was watchable but not great.

[gilgamesh]

It was good. That's all I expected it to be. All I needed it to be. Not an all time bout, but it does still probably rate as one of Wilder's better wins.

[forcefraser]

Jeff Powell needs to retire. Fight of the century?

Both men are legends, I'll have that. But this fight was a sloppy parade of two men banking coin. Yes, they fought hard and it was entertaining for what it was, but let's not pretend it was anything more than that.

Wilder gets plenty of stick but one thing you can never doubt is his fighting heart.

Never for a second in the Fury fights did he quit on himself. Especially in that third fight when he was taking a severe hammering, not once did he stop trying. He proved that he is a warrior beyond any doubt. His ability to soak up punishment is clear to see

[keithmoonhangover]

Low on skill, high on entertainment, it was a peculiar fight.
Wilder seemingly unwilling to finish Chisora off.
The worst officiating I've ever seen in a British ring - and I've been watching since the late 70's.

[hhaehre]

Chisora was in poor shape, puffing after two rounds.

He actually struggled getting into the ring. Probably the most out of shape he's ever been and that's saying a lot. The fight was entertaining, but a bit sad.

[stujones]

I actually saw the other day a 42 Larry Holmes giving a prime all time great Evander Holyfield a pretty tough fight. He would marmalised both of these on the same night. Even 3 years later when he fought McCall for the WbC title.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I actually saw the other day a 42 Larry Holmes giving a prime all time great Evander Holyfield a pretty tough fight. He would marmalised both of these on the same night. Even 3 years later when he fought McCall for the WbC title.

Yeah, holmes had a bit of a renaissance; in some ways, his tilt against Holyfield was one of the best performances of his career. The later version of Holmes had to fight a lot more flat footed, than in his prime but even so, he was a hell of a fighter.

Was just watching some highlights - Holmes took and landed some really serious punches in that round, and was clearly in good condition for the fight,

[fifth_root]

Wilder tried to box as much as he is capable of (being known for power, endurance, and speed, but poor in technique). But Chisora made everything ugly and dirty to destroy the fight. The man has been a troll in boxing for years. True, he was as brave as dumb to take every fight and damage his intelligence, which was low anyway. But he was a 4-round cardio man, then he was relying on the ropes to hold him straight, and the Wilder fight was a great example. It was a great example of many things:

• (apart from being a rope-hangler) Chisora was a dirty, abusive clincher - this is against the rules when excessive;

• He was passive - even when the referee initiates a fight, he takes steps back, to get to the ropes and wait - being passive, avoiding engagement is also against the rules;

• The fight was a good example (another one) of how dirty the Brits are - instead of deducting a point to Chisora, the referee did so to Wilder, considering the first two I am listing, but also having a man from Chisora's team getting into the ring, which could also lead to a disqualification;

• How can one give a victory to Chisora when this wasn't even a draw?

While I used to sympathise with Chisora just a few years back, I am happy he saved boxing from himself.

Out of 50 fights, he lost about 1/3 and kind of 90% of his big fights.

[CaptainSpacerod]

Jeff Powell needs to retire. Fight of the century?

Both men are legends, I'll have that. But this fight was a sloppy parade of two men banking coin. Yes, they fought hard and it was entertaining for what it was, but let's not pretend it was anything more than that.

Wilder gets plenty of stick but one thing you can never doubt is his fighting heart.

Never for a second in the Fury fights did he quit on himself. Especially in that third fight when he was taking a severe hammering, not once did he stop trying. He proved that he is a warrior beyond any doubt. His ability to soak up punishment is clear to see

Jeff Powell had clearly already lost his marbles when he wrote a ridiculous article lambasting Crawford for retiring.

The word legend is hugely overused these days but even allowing for that it’s a bit of a stretch to call Chisora a legend. More accurate to label him a brave gatekeeper to the elite

[stujones]

I actually saw the other day a 42 Larry Holmes giving a prime all time great Evander Holyfield a pretty tough fight. He would marmalised both of these on the same night. Even 3 years later when he fought McCall for the WbC title.

Yeah, holmes had a bit of a renaissance; in some ways, his tilt against Holyfield was one of the best performances of his career. The later version of Holmes had to fight a lot more flat footed, than in his prime but even so, he was a hell of a fighter.

Was just watching some highlights - Holmes took and landed some really serious punches in that round, and was clearly in good condition for the fight,

Always tipped Holmes and not Foreman to beat Jersey Joe’s record.

There is a small case for it to have been a draw vs McCall also

[gilgamesh]

I actually saw the other day a 42 Larry Holmes giving a prime all time great Evander Holyfield a pretty tough fight. He would marmalised both of these on the same night. Even 3 years later when he fought McCall for the WbC title.

Yeah, holmes had a bit of a renaissance; in some ways, his tilt against Holyfield was one of the best performances of his career. The later version of Holmes had to fight a lot more flat footed, than in his prime but even so, he was a hell of a fighter.

Was just watching some highlights - Holmes took and landed some really serious punches in that round, and was clearly in good condition for the fight,

Always tipped Holmes and not Foreman to beat Jersey Joe’s record.

There is a small case for it to have been a draw vs McCall also

I like watching old man Holmes. He had such a sharp Boxing mind that even when his reflexes have gone, and his legs have gone, you're still clearly watching a man who knows how to fight, and has the subtleties of the game down to such a science.

Old man Foreman and Old man Holmes are still good entertainment. Other than Archie Moore and Hopkins I can't think of many other guys who maintained their form that well that deep into their careers.

Duran kept fighting throughout much of his 40's, but his fading was more noticeable than the others I think. Probably because he was up so much higher from his starting weight.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I actually saw the other day a 42 Larry Holmes giving a prime all time great Evander Holyfield a pretty tough fight. He would marmalised both of these on the same night. Even 3 years later when he fought McCall for the WbC title.

Yeah, holmes had a bit of a renaissance; in some ways, his tilt against Holyfield was one of the best performances of his career. The later version of Holmes had to fight a lot more flat footed, than in his prime but even so, he was a hell of a fighter.

Was just watching some highlights - Holmes took and landed some really serious punches in that round, and was clearly in good condition for the fight,

Always tipped Holmes and not Foreman to beat Jersey Joe’s record.

There is a small case for it to have been a draw vs McCall also

Foremans freakish power was his huge ace. Moorer was giving him a serious hiding, his chin kept him in the fight, his power ended it.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Yeah, holmes had a bit of a renaissance; in some ways, his tilt against Holyfield was one of the best performances of his career. The later version of Holmes had to fight a lot more flat footed, than in his prime but even so, he was a hell of a fighter.

Was just watching some highlights - Holmes took and landed some really serious punches in that round, and was clearly in good condition for the fight,

Always tipped Holmes and not Foreman to beat Jersey Joe’s record.

There is a small case for it to have been a draw vs McCall also

I like watching old man Holmes. He had such a sharp Boxing mind that even when his reflexes have gone, and his legs have gone, you're still clearly watching a man who knows how to fight, and has the subtleties of the game down to such a science.

Old man Foreman and Old man Holmes are still good entertainment. Other than Archie Moore and Hopkins I can't think of many other guys who maintained their form that well that deep into their careers.

Duran kept fighting throughout much of his 40's, but his fading was more noticeable than the others I think. Probably because he was up so much higher from his starting weight.

Yeah he was forced to fight different tactics, parrying, riding and slipping shots, rather than using his mobility to stay at range.

He fought holyfield up close.

[stujones]

McGuigans post fight comments on boxing social I think we’re spot on.

[coneye]

Seen two old guys in a pub have a fight once , they were actually best mates , both around 80 plus , both could hardly walk , both struggled to get on there bar stool , , They had an argument don't know what over , could of been one knobbing the barmaid behind the others back , but anyway they squared up , and had a go , that was highly entertaining and like comedy hr has well , until like a prick i spoiled everyones fun , stopped it , made them shake hands , and say they were sorry , end of the night they ended up there usual selves , head on each others shoulders, singing some songs in a language only they understood ,, Only difference is , they were in the front bar , Wilder and Chisors were on PPV with mugs paying hard earned dollars for it , whilst good honest up and coming talent can't even get a pay day unless they sell there own tickets.

Still if you are inklined to feather the nest of multi millionaire guys , with generational wealth in the bank already , be my guest ,, Next one will be Wilder --- AJ THEY WILL NEED YOUR MONEY HAS WELL

[gilgamesh]

The big names in this sport were once nobodies trying to fight their way to the top. It takes years to get to the top. More years to get there than you get to stay there for most.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Seen two old guys in a pub have a fight once , they were actually best mates , both around 80 plus , both could hardly walk , both struggled to get on there bar stool , , They had an argument don't know what over , could of been one knobbing the barmaid behind the others back , but anyway they squared up , and had a go , that was highly entertaining and like comedy hr has well , until like a prick i spoiled everyones fun , stopped it , made them shake hands , and say they were sorry , end of the night they ended up there usual selves , head on each others shoulders, singing some songs in a language only they understood ,, Only difference is , they were in the front bar , Wilder and Chisors were on PPV with mugs paying hard earned dollars for it , whilst good honest up and coming talent can't even get a pay day unless they sell there own tickets.

Still if you are inklined to feather the nest of multi millionaire guys , with generational wealth in the bank already , be my guest ,, Next one will be Wilder --- AJ THEY WILL NEED YOUR MONEY HAS WELL

No way i was handing over coin for this tripe.

[Frostieballs]

Seen two old guys in a pub have a fight once , they were actually best mates , both around 80 plus , both could hardly walk , both struggled to get on there bar stool , , They had an argument don't know what over , could of been one knobbing the barmaid behind the others back , but anyway they squared up , and had a go , that was highly entertaining and like comedy hr has well , until like a prick i spoiled everyones fun , stopped it , made them shake hands , and say they were sorry , end of the night they ended up there usual selves , head on each others shoulders, singing some songs in a language only they understood ,, Only difference is , they were in the front bar , Wilder and Chisors were on PPV with mugs paying hard earned dollars for it , whilst good honest up and coming talent can't even get a pay day unless they sell there own tickets.

Still if you are inklined to feather the nest of multi millionaire guys , with generational wealth in the bank already , be my guest ,, Next one will be Wilder --- AJ THEY WILL NEED YOUR MONEY HAS WELL

No way i was handing over coin for this tripe.

I’m with you both. It’s rare I don’t shell out for a PPV but this was DAZN taking the absolute piss.

[stujones]

The big names in this sport were once nobodies trying to fight their way to the top. It takes years to get to the top. More years to get there than you get to stay there for most.

Yes, usually - but in the case of the current crop of Heavyweights.

Deontay Wilder - Turned pro 2008 - at the top 2015 (could argue he was right up there in 2013) - so that is 7 years - has been making millions for 11 years.

Tyson Fury - Exactly the same - and again you could argue was going to make a fortune in 2013 vs Haye.

Derrick Chisora - Turned pro in 2007, was actually scheduled to fight for the world title in 2010 I believe (vs Wlad), arguable had his best win of his career in 2010 and fought for his first world title in 2012.

Anthony Joshua - was never a nobody - but turned pro in 2013, world title in 2016 and has been at the top for 10 years.

Unfortunately, guys like Kaybel are still looking for that big pay day and it must be close to 10 years since he beat Chisora.

This sport can be cruel at times.