Daniel Kinahan

[SeanBrennan]

Kinahan finally arrested.

Why no questions to all the people who cheerled him.

IFL
Vaughn’s
Sims
Tibbs
Sunny Edward’s
Till
Sam Jones
Mike Coppinger
Jim White
Jamie Moore
Matthew Macklin

Radio silence

[SeanBrennan]

And let’s not forget Spencer Fearon paid to promote the sportswashing MTK Foundation.

And MTK Performance Centre Ben Davidson

Lee Eaton.

The list is like Lee’s appetite, endless

[TheLeprechaun]

It's difficult as Kinahan was actually good for boxing and boxers in a lot of ways. People made more money, fights got made etc.

Many would rather deal with him than the likes of a smarmy odious rat like Hearn or the likes of Wazza.

The boxers and trainers etc I can understand. If anyone is going to get done it should be the higher ups if there is any encrypted messages etc. The people on the ground who struggle to make a living in boxing can't be expected to be the moral arbiters of the sport, especially when the guy was a good guy to everyone in boxing by all accounts.

[SeanBrennan]

It's difficult as Kinahan was actually good for boxing and boxers in a lot of ways. People made more money, fights got made etc.

Many would rather deal with him than the likes of a smarmy odious rat like Hearn or the likes of Wazza.

The boxers and trainers etc I can understand. If anyone is going to get done it should be the higher ups if there is any encrypted messages etc. The people on the ground who struggle to make a living in boxing can't be expected to be the moral arbiters of the sport, especially when the guy was a good guy to everyone in boxing by all accounts.

Even if they know he’s a narco terrorist?

[TheLeprechaun]

I wouldn't do it myself and some of those mentioned will probably be under active investigation as we speak but I'm just saying it as it is.

[CaptainSpacerod]

I imagine Macklin is awaiting a very loud pre dawn knock at the door

[joshj909]

It's difficult as Kinahan was actually good for boxing and boxers in a lot of ways. People made more money, fights got made etc.

Many would rather deal with him than the likes of a smarmy odious rat like Hearn or the likes of Wazza.

The boxers and trainers etc I can understand. If anyone is going to get done it should be the higher ups if there is any encrypted messages etc. The people on the ground who struggle to make a living in boxing can't be expected to be the moral arbiters of the sport, especially when the guy was a good guy to everyone in boxing by all accounts.

It's because he was money laundering. He was financing shows accepting a significant loss. That's unsustainable and tying the sport to criminals. Not entirely sure it's best for boxing. He had people assassinated, I think that says more about the boxers ethics than anyone else's.

[a force]

Everyone knew he was a mass murderer they just didn’t care because they were getting paid.

People who publicly praised him should be treated in the same way as someone who would praise Ian Huntley, Peter Sutcliffe etc.

He had people shot dead in the street in front of their kids, had people murdered in packed pubs.

The amount of damage he’s done to people who witnessed these murders & have lost relatives & loved ones to these murders is hard to even comprehend.

No one in boxing should ever have anything to do with scum of the earth like Sam Jones, Ben Davison, Billy Joe Saunders etc.

[gp.]

Everyone knew he was a mass murderer they just didn’t care because they were getting paid.

People who publicly praised him should be treated in the same way as someone who would praise Ian Huntley, Peter Sutcliffe etc.

He had people shot dead in the street in front of their kids, had people murdered in packed pubs.

The amount of damage he’s done to people who witnessed these murders & have lost relatives & loved ones to these murders is hard to even comprehend.

No one in boxing should ever have anything to do with scum of the earth like Sam Jones, Ben Davison, Billy Joe Saunders etc.

I'm sure they'd give the usual excuse of "I just take people as I find them, and he never murdered anyone in front of me."

[rio]

Frampton mentions it in his book. MTK/Kinihan was his manager that took 0% from his purse. Think Kinihan just wanted to be in boxing for the glory (or laundering). He seemed to get his fighters some great pay days and opportunities. From a boxers perspective you can see why so many went with him and turned a blind eye to the other stuff. Some managers take upto 20%-25%.....he took 0%. Especially looking at it from Framptons point of view.....he got absolutely shafted by the McGugians.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Gotta be money laundering.

He didn’t need to make money off the boxers.

Even doing it for glory doesn’t make sense.

Not like his name was plastered everywhere.

[joshj909]

In usual forms of money laundering, the launderers can expect to get about half of their money into the system and out of the other end. If Kinahan put up £50m for a fight and it lost £20m, that's still as effective as money laundering through usual means but in a significant sum, making it quicker. Same as if he was a manager taking a tiny fee. He also got to hang around with celebrities and got to make himself seem like a hotshot in the boxing world to further stroke his ego. It was definitely money laundering, not the love of the sport.

[SeanBrennan]

Money laundering and ego

[SeanBrennan]

I hope Matthew Macklin and Seamus Macklin get lifted they’re the most culpable

[Nightmare Roy]

Everyone knew he was a mass murderer they just didn’t care because they were getting paid.

People who publicly praised him should be treated in the same way as someone who would praise Ian Huntley, Peter Sutcliffe etc.

He had people shot dead in the street in front of their kids, had people murdered in packed pubs.

The amount of damage he’s done to people who witnessed these murders & have lost relatives & loved ones to these murders is hard to even comprehend.

No one in boxing should ever have anything to do with scum of the earth like Sam Jones, Ben Davison, Billy Joe Saunders etc.

I'm sure he helped old ladies carry their shopping home though.

[SeanBrennan]

Everyone knew he was a mass murderer they just didn’t care because they were getting paid.

People who publicly praised him should be treated in the same way as someone who would praise Ian Huntley, Peter Sutcliffe etc.

He had people shot dead in the street in front of their kids, had people murdered in packed pubs.

The amount of damage he’s done to people who witnessed these murders & have lost relatives & loved ones to these murders is hard to even comprehend.

No one in boxing should ever have anything to do with scum of the earth like Sam Jones, Ben Davison, Billy Joe Saunders etc.

I'm sure he helped old ladies carry their shopping home though.

He did, and helped their grandchildren have crippling heroin addictions the cheeky cherub.

[joshj909]

Everyone knew he was a mass murderer they just didn’t care because they were getting paid.

People who publicly praised him should be treated in the same way as someone who would praise Ian Huntley, Peter Sutcliffe etc.

He had people shot dead in the street in front of their kids, had people murdered in packed pubs.

The amount of damage he’s done to people who witnessed these murders & have lost relatives & loved ones to these murders is hard to even comprehend.

No one in boxing should ever have anything to do with scum of the earth like Sam Jones, Ben Davison, Billy Joe Saunders etc.

I'm sure he helped old ladies carry their shopping home though.

He did, and helped their grandchildren have crippling heroin addictions the cheeky cherub.

Nobody's perfect. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone

[SeanBrennan]

I’m not sure Bible verses will really cut it

[Nightmare Roy]

I’m not sure Bible verses will really cut it

...even if he helped old dears with their shopping?

[SeanBrennan]

I’m not sure Bible verses will really cut it

...even if he helped old dears with their shopping?

Well he’s helped lots of people… look at what AJ’s 258 Investments Ltd Company was initially called - MTK Investments. Coincidence?

And look who Adam Morallee’s biggest client was: there is a NY Times article about it.

And Spencer Brown isn’t even called Spencer Brown there’s some interesting information about him.

[CaptainSpacerod]

I’m not sure Bible verses will really cut it

...even if he helped old dears with their shopping?

Well he’s helped lots of people… look at what AJ’s 258 Investments Ltd Company was initially called - MTK Investments. Coincidence?

And look who Adam Morallee’s biggest client was: there is a NY Times article about it.

And Spencer Brown isn’t even called Spencer Brown there’s some interesting information about him.

Yep, Spencer Jones, a low level nobody suddenly thrust into prominence

The obvious inference being that he's Kinahan's stooge allegedly

[JamesPhilips]

I was just wondering - where will the case be heard? I mean the US department of State issues the bounty of $5 million so I assume the will be seeking deportation to the USA… but to my knowledge DK hasn’t been active in the states.

Surely he should be tried in the countries where he is alleged to have committed a crime? Who made the USA the global police force? How do they have the authority over criminal proceedings concerning affairs that didn’t take place under US jurisdiction?

Any legal experts here can you explain?

[Nightmare Roy]

I was just wondering - where will the case be heard? I mean the US department of State issues the bounty of $5 million so I assume the will be seeking deportation to the USA… but to my knowledge DK hasn’t been active in the states.

Surely he should be tried in the countries where he is alleged to have committed a crime? Who made the USA the global police force? How do they have the authority over criminal proceedings concerning affairs that didn’t take place under US jurisdiction?

Any legal experts here can you explain?

I'd imagine if he is sent to the states he could by a couple of hundred mills worth of Trump coin and be a free man.

[JamesPhilips]

This article implies the extradition would be to Ireland.

https://globalinitiative.net/analysis/h ... zed-crime/

I just can’t understand why the USA are involved. Where there any MTK shows in the US?

[Ruthless-RKO]

This article implies the extradition would be to Ireland.

https://globalinitiative.net/analysis/h ... zed-crime/

I just can’t understand why the USA are involved. Where there any MTK shows in the US?

I don’t think so. Unless they were disguised under Conlan Boxing.

I know they were broadcast on ESPN+, which was a deal done through Arum as he had contract with them too.

Are they going to look at Probellum as well?

They made it so obvious that it was a MTK 2.0