livingstone cole wrote:Were do you draw the line on that Andy? Only English people can be English, well we're such a bastardised nation and we always have been. Being a Yorkshire lad chances are I've got quite a bit Viking in me, and my mother is from bonnie Scotland so in terms of being a 'true' Englishman, I'm about on the same level as Those Africans, Jews, Pakistani's and Chinese will be in the next hundred or so years.
Quite simple really livingstone, where you are born is what nationality you are. My point is you can be born anywhere that Britain once controlled and obtain British citizenship. You can only be English, Scottish, or Welsh if you are born in one of those countries.
I was born in West Germany(at the time)....my father is scottish..my mother from England.....i hold a British passport and have lived in England for 60% of my life....what does that make me??
MERC wrote:Its not a matter of who wants him more you stupid mother fcucker... ITS WHAT HIS NATIONALITY IS!!!! I dont care who "WANTS" him, HE IS IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You cannot argue with the logic can you chaps?
He should make a catchweight with Moore over here, then he can cop a beating and we will see who wants him.
If he steps into Taylor class his nationality will be deceased
I have posts than you to my name so I guess I do post more than bi-monthly? Admittedly a lot less of late but threads like this don't help (so I've gone and posted on it )
I wasn't the first to coin the phrase 'plastic paddy' on this thread and anyway it's very appropriate in Merc's case and I don't think it has particularly racist tones at all.
If anything I'm standing up for what it means to be Irish and think the Irish could do without dicks like that coming on to forums like this starting off a load of anti-Brit rhetoric?
If you're too thick to see that then you can phuck off as well.
And by mentioning the 'dumb darkie' comparasion you've chosen to ignore the 'plastic' bit meaning:
1 - You may be stupid and don't understand it, but I think you do really.
2 - You are offended by Paddy, most genuine Irish people I know aren't and I know several who go by the name.
3 - I probably wouldn't use 'Darkie' but I would happily label one of those little white chavs who walks around talking like they are black as a 'plastic black' or something as appropriate.
And I don't live in Pinner anymore but in Bucks, right in the heart of Middle Class England and I mainly work from home
I'm half irish Goz but not offended. Who gives a fornicate what Duddy is. He elected to be Irish but was BORN British. He was born ob British soil. Northern Ireland.
I'm surprised anyone with Irish blood would be offended by the term plastic paddy. After all there are loads of them on March 17th.
KO Artist wrote:Who gives a smeg what Duddy is. He elected to be Irish but was BORN British. He was born ob British soil.
...But was he not born on the island of Ireland????!!!!...regardless of what colonial sponsor put its name's to it? If anyone born on the island of Ireland isnt Irish, then surley they are a tourists!!!????
livingstone cole wrote:Were do you draw the line on that Andy? Only English people can be English, well we're such a bastardised nation and we always have been. Being a Yorkshire lad chances are I've got quite a bit Viking in me, and my mother is from bonnie Scotland so in terms of being a 'true' Englishman, I'm about on the same level as Those Africans, Jews, Pakistani's and Chinese will be in the next hundred or so years.
Quite simple really livingstone, where you are born is what nationality you are. My point is you can be born anywhere that Britain once controlled and obtain British citizenship. You can only be English, Scottish, or Welsh if you are born in one of those countries.
I was born in West Germany(at the time)....my father is scottish..my mother from England.....i hold a British passport and have lived in England for 60% of my life....what does that make me??
What do you wanna be? If you are born in Germany you must be German. If you choose to be British so be it. I'm English.
MERC wrote:Its not a matter of who wants him more you stupid mother fcucker... ITS WHAT HIS NATIONALITY IS!!!! I dont care who "WANTS" him, HE IS IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is a fcucker? Anyway, you clearly want him to be Irish or you wouldn't be arguing the point. If nationality were a matter of choice then the world would have 3 billion Englishmen, wouldn't it!
yeah thats right!! lol!!!! the most hated country in the owrld BAR NONE!!
I'm sure a one way ticket back to sligo isn't that dear.
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:If this arsehole has had a presumably rare moment of clarity, then just change Duddy to Irish. Big deal.
Terence - please don't call the Virgin Mary a tart (even though you concede it's a bit harsh). You might be a heathen, Manc mofo but that's no need to spread your secular shit on this forum. 8)
I thought that was the whole idea of secularism. None of that god and virgin mary shit dont mean anything.
The Hawk wrote:
I'd be surprised if anyone in the part of Belfast Eamonn Magee is from held a British passport
Hi Hawk, I know that - however, I am just askingthe question as I am not 100% sure of Magees postion, also Magee fought for a commonwealth title so he may have had to produce a passport from a commonwealth country for that fight.
Also as an amatuer Duddy fought for Irish titles, lived and trained in Dublin and also for Ireland on a national level - I am not sure in eamonn did.
To be honest I don't know if Eamonn did have to produce a British passport for that, maybe he did. I think to Earn money and fight for titles, Magee would of had a British passport if he had too, must be the only one there if he did
I dont know if you are actually Harry H but I guess you might be - if you are you could surely find out
c2ute wrote:I wonder if Duddy was offereda big money fight for the th Brit title against, say Carl Froch, would he take it?
he wouldnt - hes not BMcG - no slur honest
Sligo you old rascal,
Barry took a lot of stick to further his boxing career and leave behind the complex political situation that was Ulster back in the day. So much so that his name is still dirt even to this day among certain sections of his community.
Wayne McCullough took a lot of stick for the the line he took in furthering his career, boxing for Ireland and especially being recieved in Dublin, alongside Carruth, after his fantastic silver medal, so much so that even his name is dirt to this day.
No wonder the pair of them, on opposite sides of the divide, are happy to be away from the shite that will hopefully be a thing of the past.
BTW if you buy that one way ticket to Sligo, please take fvcking Westlife with you.
c2ute wrote:I wonder if Duddy was offereda big money fight for the th Brit title against, say Carl Froch, would he take it?
he wouldnt - hes not BMcG - no slur honest
Sligo you old rascal,
Barry took a lot of stick to further his boxing career and leave behind the complex political situation that was Ulster back in the day. So much so that his name is still dirt even to this day among certain sections of his community.
Wayne McCullough took a lot of stick for the the line he took in furthering his career, boxing for Ireland and especially being recieved in Dublin, alongside Carruth, after his fantastic silver medal, so much so that even his name is dirt to this day.
No wonder the pair of them, on opposite sides of the divide, are happy to be away from the shite that will hopefully be a thing of the past.
BTW if you buy that one way ticket to Sligo, please take fvcking Westlife with you.
It was tongue in cheek honest I havea lot of respect for the Cyclone
p.s. couple of the Westlife boys are mates of mine so back off or the jab comes out!!!
sligobhoy67 wrote:
he wouldnt - hes not BMcG - no slur honest
Sligo you old rascal,
Barry took a lot of stick to further his boxing career and leave behind the complex political situation that was Ulster back in the day. So much so that his name is still dirt even to this day among certain sections of his community.
Wayne McCullough took a lot of stick for the the line he took in furthering his career, boxing for Ireland and especially being recieved in Dublin, alongside Carruth, after his fantastic silver medal, so much so that even his name is dirt to this day.
No wonder the pair of them, on opposite sides of the divide, are happy to be away from the shite that will hopefully be a thing of the past.
BTW if you buy that one way ticket to Sligo, please take fvcking Westlife with you.
It was tongue in cheek honest I havea lot of respect for the Cyclone
p.s. couple of the Westlife boys are mates of mine so back off or the jab comes out!!!
I dont think you want to be admitting to being close 'mates' with that Mark from Westlife or the rumour mill will start up!
Barry took a lot of stick to further his boxing career and leave behind the complex political situation that was Ulster back in the day. So much so that his name is still dirt even to this day among certain sections of his community.
Wayne McCullough took a lot of stick for the the line he took in furthering his career, boxing for Ireland and especially being recieved in Dublin, alongside Carruth, after his fantastic silver medal, so much so that even his name is dirt to this day.
No wonder the pair of them, on opposite sides of the divide, are happy to be away from the shite that will hopefully be a thing of the past.
BTW if you buy that one way ticket to Sligo, please take fvcking Westlife with you.
It was tongue in cheek honest I havea lot of respect for the Cyclone
p.s. couple of the Westlife boys are mates of mine so back off or the jab comes out!!!
I dont think you want to be admitting to being close 'mates' with that Mark from Westlife or the rumour mill will start up!
back in the days my brother got suspended from school for hitting him over the head with a mallet in woodwork - the memories!!!
Andy Mac wrote:
Quite simple really livingstone, where you are born is what nationality you are. My point is you can be born anywhere that Britain once controlled and obtain British citizenship. You can only be English, Scottish, or Welsh if you are born in one of those countries.
I was born in West Germany(at the time)....my father is scottish..my mother from England.....i hold a British passport and have lived in England for 60% of my life....what does that make me??
What do you wanna be? If you are born in Germany you must be German. If you choose to be British so be it. I'm English.
Where your born doesnt mean a thing...your mother could of been on holiday in...i dont know...f ucking Bolivia..and dropped you...would that make you Bolivian???....Ive fought for my country...ive had people F ucking shooting at me for this country in that i live....so all of a sudden im f ucking German....F uck you pal...
bigynzing wrote:
I was born in West Germany(at the time)....my father is scottish..my mother from England.....i hold a British passport and have lived in England for 60% of my life....what does that make me??
What do you wanna be? If you are born in Germany you must be German. If you choose to be British so be it. I'm English.
Where your born doesnt mean a thing...your mother could of been on holiday in...i dont know...f ucking Bolivia..and dropped you...would that make you Bolivian???....Ive fought for my country...ive had people F ucking shooting at me for this country in that i live....so all of a sudden im f ucking German....F uck you pal...
(This includes: POINTLESS OFF TOPIC THREADS and PERSONAL THREADS)
4. DO NOT POST UNDER MULTIPLE USERNAMES
5. No name calling
Well this strand has touched all bases
It certainly has, and it would appear the usual prejudices apply. That to be born in England, and registered as English is something that one should almost apologize for.
I hope no one objects to me locking this thread, I know full well how it sometimes typed comments can appear offensive and racists, when the poster didn't mean for it to come accross as that at all - right Mr McNeilly
I'll keep it open for a few hours incase some one does object, if there is a valid reason to keeping it open then I will change my mind.
Andy Mac wrote:
What do you wanna be? If you are born in Germany you must be German. If you choose to be British so be it. I'm English.
Where your born doesnt mean a thing...your mother could of been on holiday in...i dont know...f ucking Bolivia..and dropped you...would that make you Bolivian???....Ive fought for my country...ive had people F ucking shooting at me for this country in that i live....so all of a sudden im f ucking German....F uck you pal...
Langauge Timothy.
My English mother would whupp me good if she knew i was the heart of such profanity.
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