Rico would have demolished Joshua

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Rico would have demolished Joshua

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Just remembered he was originally supposed to fight Joshua not Usyk

Then AJ had that car crash in Nigeria

I think Rico would have stopped AJ had they fought. AJ is beyond shot.
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Just like Ngannou would have after arguably beating Fury?
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joshj909 wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:27 Just like Ngannou would have after arguably beating Fury?
Don't think Ngannou showed a fraction the ability of Rico
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johnmanchester wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:28
joshj909 wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:27 Just like Ngannou would have after arguably beating Fury?
Don't think Ngannou showed a fraction the ability of Rico
Ability doesn't matter. He dropped Fury and won more rounds. Ngannou landed marginally less punches on Fury than Rico did on Usyk and received less too. This was Verhoeven's one opportunity and he didn't take it. He'd likely get demolished by a top heavyweight that takes the fight seriously.
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joshj909 wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:32
johnmanchester wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:28
joshj909 wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:27 Just like Ngannou would have after arguably beating Fury?
Don't think Ngannou showed a fraction the ability of Rico
Ability doesn't matter. He dropped Fury and won more rounds. Ngannou landed marginally less punches on Fury than Rico did on Usyk and received less too. This was Verhoeven's one opportunity and he didn't take it. He'd likely get demolished by a top heavyweight that takes the fight seriously.
Even when you see it, you still don't give the man credit.
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joshj909 wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:32
johnmanchester wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:28
joshj909 wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:27 Just like Ngannou would have after arguably beating Fury?
Don't think Ngannou showed a fraction the ability of Rico
Ability doesn't matter. He dropped Fury and won more rounds. Ngannou landed marginally less punches on Fury than Rico did on Usyk and received less too. This was Verhoeven's one opportunity and he didn't take it. He'd likely get demolished by a top heavyweight that takes the fight seriously.
Don't think you'll hear any more from AJ or Eddie now about fighting Rico after tonight

Think AJ is mentally shot and would crumble after failing to put Rico away early
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johnmanchester wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:45
joshj909 wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:32
johnmanchester wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:28

Don't think Ngannou showed a fraction the ability of Rico
Ability doesn't matter. He dropped Fury and won more rounds. Ngannou landed marginally less punches on Fury than Rico did on Usyk and received less too. This was Verhoeven's one opportunity and he didn't take it. He'd likely get demolished by a top heavyweight that takes the fight seriously.
Don't think you'll hear any more from AJ or Eddie now about fighting Rico after tonight

Think AJ is mentally shot and would crumble after failing to put Rico away early
Probably more to do with Joshua already having a fight scheduled for the mega payday fight against Fury at the end of the year. Joshua isn't ducking Verhoeven if he doesn't call him out for a fight.
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joshj909 wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:46
johnmanchester wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:45
joshj909 wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:32

Ability doesn't matter. He dropped Fury and won more rounds. Ngannou landed marginally less punches on Fury than Rico did on Usyk and received less too. This was Verhoeven's one opportunity and he didn't take it. He'd likely get demolished by a top heavyweight that takes the fight seriously.
Don't think you'll hear any more from AJ or Eddie now about fighting Rico after tonight

Think AJ is mentally shot and would crumble after failing to put Rico away early
Probably more to do with Joshua already having a fight scheduled for the mega payday fight against Fury at the end of the year. Joshua isn't ducking Verhoeven if he doesn't call him out for a fight.
That fight won't happen this year. I am still not sure it will happen at all.
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I think AJ knocks Rico spark out.

Rico was good but Usyk was bad tonight.

10 lb heavy, flat footed, not fainting, seemed borderline distracted. Part of that has to go to Rico weird style, but part of it is a poorly prepared or past prime or sick or all 3 or any 2 Usyk.
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Disagree

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gregregegg wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:53 I think AJ knocks Rico spark out.

Rico was good but Usyk was bad tonight
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gregregegg wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:53 I think AJ knocks Rico spark out.

Rico was good but Usyk was bad tonight.

10 lb heavy, flat footed, not fainting, seemed borderline distracted. Part of that has to go to Rico weird style, but part of it is a poorly prepared or past prime or sick or all 3 or any 2 Usyk.
Usyk looked terrible, no question. But let’s be honest about AJ as well, he’s declined even more. The guy was struggling to land cleanly on Jake Paul.

One thing AJ, Usyk and Fury all seem to have in common now: they’re all completely shot to bits.
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Heldenjaeger wrote: 23 May 2026, 20:14
gregregegg wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:53 I think AJ knocks Rico spark out.

Rico was good but Usyk was bad tonight.

10 lb heavy, flat footed, not fainting, seemed borderline distracted. Part of that has to go to Rico weird style, but part of it is a poorly prepared or past prime or sick or all 3 or any 2 Usyk.
Usyk looked terrible, no question. But let’s be honest about AJ as well, he’s declined even more. The guy was struggling to land cleanly on Jake Paul.

One thing AJ, Usyk and Fury all seem to have in common now: they’re all completely shot to bits.
Yea I guess the question is can Rico circle left… he was circling hard right today, which was a great strategy vs a flat Usyk. Would be a nap vs AJ.

Honestly though If Rico and aj were booked to fight in October and you asked me to pick the winner/how result for a million dollars I would pick aj by stoppage….

Agree with the big 3 been done (not like Whyte or wilder levle done but done)…. I don’t wanna see Usyk sacrificed… the other 2 I’m down with the others getting lit up by young lions.
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Heldenjaeger wrote: 23 May 2026, 20:14
gregregegg wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:53 I think AJ knocks Rico spark out.

Rico was good but Usyk was bad tonight.

10 lb heavy, flat footed, not fainting, seemed borderline distracted. Part of that has to go to Rico weird style, but part of it is a poorly prepared or past prime or sick or all 3 or any 2 Usyk.
Usyk looked terrible, no question. But let’s be honest about AJ as well, he’s declined even more. The guy was struggling to land cleanly on Jake Paul.

One thing AJ, Usyk and Fury all seem to have in common now: they’re all completely shot to bits.
Being challenged doesn't mean you're shot.
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gilgamesh wrote: 23 May 2026, 20:38
Heldenjaeger wrote: 23 May 2026, 20:14
gregregegg wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:53 I think AJ knocks Rico spark out.

Rico was good but Usyk was bad tonight.

10 lb heavy, flat footed, not fainting, seemed borderline distracted. Part of that has to go to Rico weird style, but part of it is a poorly prepared or past prime or sick or all 3 or any 2 Usyk.
Usyk looked terrible, no question. But let’s be honest about AJ as well, he’s declined even more. The guy was struggling to land cleanly on Jake Paul.

One thing AJ, Usyk and Fury all seem to have in common now: they’re all completely shot to bits.
Being challenged doesn't mean you're shot.
Well, if you couldn’t see that Usyk wasn’t moving anything like his usual self, I can’t help you. I posted it before the first round had even ended. The movement just wasn’t there. He couldn’t create angles, couldn’t glide in and out the way he normally does.

If he looks like that against Agit, he’s getting knocked out early.
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Heldenjaeger wrote: 23 May 2026, 20:42
gilgamesh wrote: 23 May 2026, 20:38
Heldenjaeger wrote: 23 May 2026, 20:14

Usyk looked terrible, no question. But let’s be honest about AJ as well, he’s declined even more. The guy was struggling to land cleanly on Jake Paul.

One thing AJ, Usyk and Fury all seem to have in common now: they’re all completely shot to bits.
Being challenged doesn't mean you're shot.
Well, if you couldn’t see that Usyk wasn’t moving anything like his usual self, I can’t help you. I posted it before the first round had even ended. The movement just wasn’t there. He couldn’t create angles, couldn’t glide in and out the way he normally does.

If he looks like that against Agit, he’s getting knocked out early.
If he beats Kabayel you'll probably just say Kabayel was never any good to begin with.

People can never appreciate a good performance for what it is at the moment it happens it seems. I don't know what that's about.
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gilgamesh wrote: 23 May 2026, 20:45
Heldenjaeger wrote: 23 May 2026, 20:42
gilgamesh wrote: 23 May 2026, 20:38

Being challenged doesn't mean you're shot.
Well, if you couldn’t see that Usyk wasn’t moving anything like his usual self, I can’t help you. I posted it before the first round had even ended. The movement just wasn’t there. He couldn’t create angles, couldn’t glide in and out the way he normally does.

If he looks like that against Agit, he’s getting knocked out early.
If he beats Kabayel you'll probably just say Kabayel was never any good to begin with.

People can never appreciate a good performance for what it is at the moment it happens it seems. I don't know what that's about.
But he won't. No if. He probably won't fight him. I love what Usyk has done but he looked so bad vs Rico. Legs gone.
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Not necessarily. And it's not only about styles. Usyk was cleafly unprepared.

Btw, with Rico's physique his style isn't rational for boxing. I haven't watched much of his kickboxing bouts and I did it long time ago, but he boxes not how he should have boxed. With such height and reach he shouldn't lean with his head forward that much. He kinda makes himself opened. He gotta jab more and move laterally more.
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Just watched & I think AJ would demolish Rico inside a few rounds (unless he really is proper shot).

Styles make fights & Rico was all wrong for an under-trained Usyk.

He'd be walking into massive right hands against AJ.

I know many are upset with what happened tonight but when two blokes get into a fight, so many things can happen.

Usyk is still brilliant & Rico will now add an extra 10 or 20 million to his retirement fund.

Usyk has said he has 3 more fights left. He knows his body. Crawford got out at exactly the right time, Usyk might not.
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Taansend wrote: 24 May 2026, 01:31 Just watched & I think AJ would demolish Rico inside a few rounds (unless he really is proper shot).

Styles make fights & Rico was all wrong for an under-trained Usyk.

He'd be walking into massive right hands against AJ.

I know many are upset with what happened tonight but when two blokes get into a fight, so many things can happen.

Usyk is still brilliant & Rico will now add an extra 10 or 20 million to his retirement fund.

Usyk has said he has 3 more fights left. He knows his body. Crawford got out at exactly the right time, Usyk might not.
Yes, it could be like the Fury and Joshua story against Ngannou.
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Spud MK2 wrote: 23 May 2026, 19:54 you can write your write
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Rico fought his fight again at a boxer. He adapted his style to beat Usyk. He's not a boxer I would follow to be honest, don't like his style of fighting, from what I saw last night. Saying that I'm sure that's the style he adapted for this fight. Never seen him before so do not know his kick boxing style.

I think he can go 10 rounds easily but lack of boxing and 12 rounders was just a little to much for him in this fight.

I think he would be ok in the pro ranks judging by what I see here, but his style, for me is difficult to match up. 10 rounders he would have more points wins than knock outs.

The likes of Derek Chisora, who in fact called the fight a Rico win prior would not stand a chance, and would be out pointed. But who's interested in this style and point wins in heavyweight boxing every fight?

Give the guy credit for what he did but let's not get over excited after 1 fight and suggest he could beat Furys and Joshua's. Usyk was never in trouble. And I was never worried at any time that Rico was going to win. My prediction was Rico would run out of gas somewhere after the middle rounds and get stopped.

Usyk maybe took this fight a little unprepared, we are all entitled to have a bad night.
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Depends how small you can write.
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I’m with Master G, like 2 of the judges I had it 5-5 after 10 and even without the stoppage, the 11th would. Have been a 10-8 round so Rico would needed a knockdown to get a win which never looked likely. He was gassed, there would only have been one winner of that last round. The fact that he said, admirably “I would have preferred to go out on my shield” hardly shows he thought he had any chance of winning.
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Taansend wrote: 24 May 2026, 01:31 Just watched & I think AJ would demolish Rico inside a few rounds (unless he really is proper shot).

Styles make fights & Rico was all wrong for an under-trained Usyk.

He'd be walking into massive right hands against AJ.

I know many are upset with what happened tonight but when two blokes get into a fight, so many things can happen.

Usyk is still brilliant & Rico will now add an extra 10 or 20 million to his retirement fund.

Usyk has said he has 3 more fights left. He knows his body. Crawford got out at exactly the right time, Usyk might not.
Usyk was not undertrained. Rico was simply better than any of YOU thought he was going to be. I knew he was going to be tough.

Now that he was tough. You're all excusing it as "Well...Usyk just wasn't ready" rather than to give Rico credit for his performance. It simply CAN'T BE that this guy who's been the dominant Kickboxing Champion for over a decade is just tough, and knows how to fight can it?

And Usyk, I mean what an underprepared loser. I can't tell you how many times I've seen an out of shape guy, save a fight he's struggling in with an 11th round stoppage.

That's everyday, easy stuff to accomplish right there.

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