Is Conor Benn really that bad?

[Sweet Dick Willie]

I haven't really followed his career but every time I've seen him he's been looking pretty ok. And he just defeated very talented Prograis and I believe he has a very good chance against Ryan Garcia too. I'm not that interested in this whole Benn circus as I'm not British and it seems to be a very British thing, but I don't see what most of you see when saying he's completely trash. Deluded he might be, but a good(ish) boxer nevertheless.

[Taansend]

First off, I am/was a massive Nigel Benn fan. Went to several of his fights. I also loved Eubank & was at their 2nd fight.

I saw Conor's debut & he was obviously not a boxer. But he got better. In the UK it's very common to A) build people up to knock them down & B) slag off nepotism (& rightly so).

Benn's boxing skills really got better around the same time he magically started blasting people out. I do believe that two things are true at once. Benn DID work hard at improving his boxing skills but (probably) also was guilty of PEDs.

I don't live in England anymore so I don't fully know what the feeling is there, other than on sites like this, but from my point of view if he's cleared to fight, he's cleared to fight. It's the same with football. I don't really understand half the stuff anymore. I don't know when to celebrate a goal for several minutes. I don't know who's clean or dirty in boxing.

Everything, boxing, football, US & UK government, just seems like a shite version of itself nowadays. Money seems to have ruined it all. I have 3 more years then I am off to rural Thailand.

Anyway, back to Benn, he's a bit of a knob but he proved his bollocks against Eubank, I hope he & Garcia have a proper tear up & they both are OK afterwards.

[SeanBrennan]

I haven't really followed his career but every time I've seen him he's been looking pretty ok. And he just defeated very talented Prograis and I believe he has a very good chance against Ryan Garcia too. I'm not that interested in this whole Benn circus as I'm not British and it seems to be a very British thing, but I don't see what most of you see when saying he's completely trash. Deluded he might be, but a good(ish) boxer nevertheless.

Prograis was injured, old and had one leg.

He’s only beaten old knackered men.

He’s not top 5 in Britain.

He’s rubbish hence swerving area, English, British level etc.

And he’s a two time drug cheat.

He’s also an entitled scumbag.

[Bercli]

First off, I am/was a massive Nigel Benn fan. Went to several of his fights. I also loved Eubank & was at their 2nd fight.

I saw Conor's debut & he was obviously not a boxer. But he got better. In the UK it's very common to A) build people up to knock them down & B) slag off nepotism (& rightly so).

Benn's boxing skills really got better around the same time he magically started blasting people out. I do believe that two things are true at once. Benn DID work hard at improving his boxing skills but (probably) also was guilty of PEDs.

I don't live in England anymore so I don't fully know what the feeling is there, other than on sites like this, but from my point of view if he's cleared to fight, he's cleared to fight. It's the same with football. I don't really understand half the stuff anymore. I don't know when to celebrate a goal for several minutes. I don't know who's clean or dirty in boxing.

Everything, boxing, football, US & UK government, just seems like a shite version of itself nowadays. Money seems to have ruined it all. I have 3 more years then I am off to rural Thailand.

Anyway, back to Benn, he's a bit of a knob but he proved his bollocks against Eubank, I hope he & Garcia have a proper tear up & they both are OK afterwards.

You summed everything up perfectly in my opinion. I believe we live in a very lazy,money orientated and entitled world. Benn is just another product of that. Boxing is more off a circus now than it has ever been. We have ex fighters popping up everywhere talking shit and challenging eachother like school children. We even have promoters thinking they can fight and challenging one another. Benn is just another product of an ever more crazy boxing world.

[Sweet Dick Willie]

I haven't really followed his career but every time I've seen him he's been looking pretty ok. And he just defeated very talented Prograis and I believe he has a very good chance against Ryan Garcia too. I'm not that interested in this whole Benn circus as I'm not British and it seems to be a very British thing, but I don't see what most of you see when saying he's completely trash. Deluded he might be, but a good(ish) boxer nevertheless.

Prograis was injured, old and had one leg.

He’s only beaten old knackered men.

He’s not top 5 in Britain.

He’s rubbish hence swerving area, English, British level etc.

And he’s a two time drug cheat.

He’s also an entitled scumbag.

Yes I see all this, but it's a bit harsh if everyone below top 5 is shit. I know it's a case of semantics more than anything, but I can't really call anyone who steps in the ring shit, let alone someone with an ok resume like Benn. I get a little confused everytime I read on here something like Conor Benn can't box or Deontay Wilder is the worst heavyweight ever or now after saturday that Usyk is finished..

[paultom]

I haven't really followed his career but every time I've seen him he's been looking pretty ok. And he just defeated very talented Prograis and I believe he has a very good chance against Ryan Garcia too. I'm not that interested in this whole Benn circus as I'm not British and it seems to be a very British thing, but I don't see what most of you see when saying he's completely trash. Deluded he might be, but a good(ish) boxer nevertheless.

Prograis was injured, old and had one leg.

He’s only beaten old knackered men.

He’s not top 5 in Britain.

He’s rubbish hence swerving area, English, British level etc.

And he’s a two time drug cheat.

He’s also an entitled scumbag.

This sums it up for me

[Oiky]

yeah, i dont rate him at all.

[Controversial]

He’s better than he was but he’s been boxing a long time now and has decent trainers. What he does have going for him is he’s very fit and has self belief which can win you fights. On a side note I don’t think PEDS make any fighter better in terms of their ability, you can either fight or you can’t but of course it helps in other ways like recovery.

With Benn though it’s hard to really judge him as most of the names he’s fought are past their best and/or out of their natural weight division. The real gauge will be when he’s put in with someone in their prime.

[coneye]

I can look at Benn and forgive hime for being a prick
i can forgjve him for getting where he is through daddys contacts . Daddys name

I i can even forgjve him for getting a big head and beliveing hevreally dine it through hard work

I can look the other way for being a drug cheat

I can say .oh well what gies riund comes around when he walked on the man who built him to where he is .

But i always come back to him and his dad . Jumping up and down cheering , laughinv and carrying on like complete pratts while his older , over the hill , underweight hand picked opponent lay on the canvas

For that i hope him and his dad get there just rewards . And that would be Garcia hits him so hard with a left hook he knocks him spark out cold . I,d then like to see Garcia and his father or trainer dancing around and cheering while hes out cold . I,d live to then see the camera pan to.his dad who would probably have the look of fear and anxiety that his oppknents familly had

BENNS a bad winner which is 100 times worse than a bad loser . It really shows somines character

[Sammy Scaff]

Can't wait til someone ices him.
The money he's making for so little substance is just obscene.

[Cyclops]

He's nothing special.

[SeanBrennan]

He's nothing special.

If Teemu did boxers…

[golden_labrador]

Can't wait til someone ices him.
The money he's making for so little substance is just obscene.

he'll likely Mayweather it away

[MasterG]

Not as bad as he was, but it's hard to see how bad he still is because he hadn't fought anyone.

Cannot judge him by the Eubank fights because Eubank had a huge disadvantage in both fights, even though he won the first.

[gp.]

I haven't really followed his career but every time I've seen him he's been looking pretty ok. And he just defeated very talented Prograis and I believe he has a very good chance against Ryan Garcia too. I'm not that interested in this whole Benn circus as I'm not British and it seems to be a very British thing, but I don't see what most of you see when saying he's completely trash. Deluded he might be, but a good(ish) boxer nevertheless.

Prograis was injured, old and had one leg.

He’s only beaten old knackered men.

He’s not top 5 in Britain.

He’s rubbish hence swerving area, English, British level etc.

And he’s a two time drug cheat.

He’s also an entitled scumbag.

Yes I see all this, but it's a bit harsh if everyone below top 5 is shit. I know it's a case of semantics more than anything, but I can't really call anyone who steps in the ring shit, let alone someone with an ok resume like Benn. I get a little confused everytime I read on here something like Conor Benn can't box or Deontay Wilder is the worst heavyweight ever or now after saturday that Usyk is finished..

As long as people seem to need to shout "shit" or " good " or "five stars" about everything instead of evaluating things
properly, you are going to have this problem . Shit is relative. Is Benn shit for a pro boxer? Of course not. Is he shit for someone headlining bills? Yeah, maybe. Is he shit for someone ranked #2 in the world by BoxRec? Probably.

"If you wish to converse with me, first define your terms"

[Coco]

Is Benn good enough to win a British title?

If he won one, would he be shit?

[gp.]

Is Benn good enough to win a British title?

If he won one, would he be shit?

If your context is "all current UK welterweight boxers", then no.

If your context is "Leonard, Hearns, Duran and Conor Benn" then yes.

[CaptainSpacerod]

Is Benn good enough to win a British title?

If he won one, would he be shit?

Would he beat Jack Rafferty ? Doubtful

Conah Walker ? Maybe, he’s got a lot of miles on the clock

Crocker ? 50/50 , Benn might well outwork him but he’d be susceptible to a fight ending counter

Catterall ? Jack would box his head off

So it’s fair to say Benn’s at or near British level which makes him decent - nowhere near shit but nowhere near the fighter he professes to be either

[Coco]

Is Benn good enough to win a British title?

If he won one, would he be shit?

Would he beat Jack Rafferty ? Doubtful

Conah Walker ? Maybe, he’s got a lot of miles on the clock

Crocker ? 50/50 , Benn might well outwork him but he’d be susceptible to a fight ending counter

Catterall ? Jack would box his head off

So it’s fair to say Benn’s at or near British level which makes him decent - nowhere near shit but nowhere near the fighter he professes to be either

About right

[Controversial]

Is Benn good enough to win a British title?

If he won one, would he be shit?

Would he beat Jack Rafferty ? Doubtful

Conah Walker ? Maybe, he’s got a lot of miles on the clock

Crocker ? 50/50 , Benn might well outwork him but he’d be susceptible to a fight ending counter

Catterall ? Jack would box his head off

So it’s fair to say Benn’s at or near British level which makes him decent - nowhere near shit but nowhere near the fighter he professes to be either

About right

He won’t care and in many ways why would he when he’s likely earned more money than all of those put together. Like him or hate him he’s positioned himself into big money fights and will retire a multi millionaire, not many fighters do that.

[Coco]

Would he beat Jack Rafferty ? Doubtful

Conah Walker ? Maybe, he’s got a lot of miles on the clock

Crocker ? 50/50 , Benn might well outwork him but he’d be susceptible to a fight ending counter

Catterall ? Jack would box his head off

So it’s fair to say Benn’s at or near British level which makes him decent - nowhere near shit but nowhere near the fighter he professes to be either

About right

He won’t care and in many ways why would he when he’s likely earned more money than all of those put together. Like him or hate him he’s positioned himself into big money fights and will retire a multi millionaire, not many fighters do that.

Exactly right

[CaptainSpacerod]

Would he beat Jack Rafferty ? Doubtful

Conah Walker ? Maybe, he’s got a lot of miles on the clock

Crocker ? 50/50 , Benn might well outwork him but he’d be susceptible to a fight ending counter

Catterall ? Jack would box his head off

So it’s fair to say Benn’s at or near British level which makes him decent - nowhere near shit but nowhere near the fighter he professes to be either

About right

He won’t care and in many ways why would he when he’s likely earned more money than all of those put together. Like him or hate him he’s positioned himself into big money fights any will retire a multi millionaire, not many fighters do that. Pm

As a boxing fan it puts you in a bit of a quandary because whilst nobody begrudges any fighter the money they earn the fact is that there’s a finite pot of money out there and Benn being manoeuvred into a position where he can trouser millions means that other more worthy fighters miss out.

As in life it’s a case of it’s not what you know it’s who you know.

[KiwiRider]

I haven't really followed his career but every time I've seen him he's been looking pretty ok. And he just defeated very talented Prograis and I believe he has a very good chance against Ryan Garcia too. I'm not that interested in this whole Benn circus as I'm not British and it seems to be a very British thing, but I don't see what most of you see when saying he's completely trash. Deluded he might be, but a good(ish) boxer nevertheless.

Prograis was injured, old and had one leg.

He’s only beaten old knackered men.

He’s not top 5 in Britain.

He’s rubbish hence swerving area, English, British level etc.

And he’s a two time drug cheat.

He’s also an entitled scumbag.

Nice
I think you pretty much covered it.
He did improve from the controversial win against the Frenchie to the rematch - but I'm fairly sure he was on banned substances for that one.

[SeanBrennan]

I haven't really followed his career but every time I've seen him he's been looking pretty ok. And he just defeated very talented Prograis and I believe he has a very good chance against Ryan Garcia too. I'm not that interested in this whole Benn circus as I'm not British and it seems to be a very British thing, but I don't see what most of you see when saying he's completely trash. Deluded he might be, but a good(ish) boxer nevertheless.

Prograis was injured, old and had one leg.

He’s only beaten old knackered men.

He’s not top 5 in Britain.

He’s rubbish hence swerving area, English, British level etc.

And he’s a two time drug cheat.

He’s also an entitled scumbag.

Nice
I think you pretty much covered it.
He did improve from the controversial win against the Frenchie to the rematch - but I'm fairly sure he was on banned substances for that one.

Thanks mate and definitely.

The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree with this one.