Jake must want to do Serrano/Han.
Find an RbR that had Han winning last night.
Amanda Serrano vs. Cheyenne Hanson | ESPN - May 30, 2026
Re: Amanda Serrano vs. Cheyenne Hanson | ESPN - May 30, 2026
Whatever number you think are accurate….Holm landed substantially more punches in th at fight after the 4th round….wasnt just a punch here or there…substantially morecatalin714 wrote: ↑31 May 2026, 13:20 The cpmubox numbers have been wrong before and are here again.When HBO used to do them they meant something,now they are absolutely rigged.
in the last round both landed 6 punches.Compubox said Holm landed 13.
Completely invented stuff.
Re: Amanda Serrano vs. Cheyenne Hanson | ESPN - May 30, 2026
I attended the WBA convention in 2024 and I went to the judges seminar which was about having consistency and uniformity in judging boxing. Three men were doing the presentation, but there was one guy doing most of the talking. I realized that the amount of punches landed were the most important thing according to them. Therefore, effective aggression, ring generalship, and defense were not as important as punches landed (also known as clean punching). There are four categories to judging boxing, but only one mattered to them.
I waited until the end of their presentation to talk to the main guy. I asked him what if a boxer fighting another boxer is better in three of the four categories except for punches landed, but only by one punch. I asked who deserves to win. He said the boxer that landed one punch more. Then I said why have the other three categories if you are not going to consider them in your judging. He sighed and then said "Good question." He didn't have a good answer. He told me about the three judges sitting on different sides of the ring and getting different views which I already knew and it did not answer my question.
This Holm vs. Han rematch was a WBA title fight. If the three men doing the WBA judges seminar were the judges for Holm vs. Han 2, then Holm would have won. However, there is a problem with this type of judging. If punches landed are all that they should consider, then we don't need judges if Compubox or AI are available. By focusing just on punches landed, they jeopardize their own careers.
The judging in women's boxing world title fights has been bad for about a year. Some people say it's because of two-minute rounds, but Holm vs. Han 2 was three-minute rounds. MVP has a three year contract with ESPN. Do you think ESPN is going to renew the contract if these bad decisions continue? If punches landed are all that matters, Amanda Serrano should have won at least one fight against Katie Taylor. I thought she won the first two, but she changed her strategy in the third fight because of the judging for the first two fights. The judging in women's boxing is ruining the sport. This is supposed to be a "golden age." At the highest level, these judges cannot make the right decisions. It's not all the time, but it happens often.
I waited until the end of their presentation to talk to the main guy. I asked him what if a boxer fighting another boxer is better in three of the four categories except for punches landed, but only by one punch. I asked who deserves to win. He said the boxer that landed one punch more. Then I said why have the other three categories if you are not going to consider them in your judging. He sighed and then said "Good question." He didn't have a good answer. He told me about the three judges sitting on different sides of the ring and getting different views which I already knew and it did not answer my question.
This Holm vs. Han rematch was a WBA title fight. If the three men doing the WBA judges seminar were the judges for Holm vs. Han 2, then Holm would have won. However, there is a problem with this type of judging. If punches landed are all that they should consider, then we don't need judges if Compubox or AI are available. By focusing just on punches landed, they jeopardize their own careers.
The judging in women's boxing world title fights has been bad for about a year. Some people say it's because of two-minute rounds, but Holm vs. Han 2 was three-minute rounds. MVP has a three year contract with ESPN. Do you think ESPN is going to renew the contract if these bad decisions continue? If punches landed are all that matters, Amanda Serrano should have won at least one fight against Katie Taylor. I thought she won the first two, but she changed her strategy in the third fight because of the judging for the first two fights. The judging in women's boxing is ruining the sport. This is supposed to be a "golden age." At the highest level, these judges cannot make the right decisions. It's not all the time, but it happens often.
Re: Amanda Serrano vs. Cheyenne Hanson | ESPN - May 30, 2026
I'm glad you're sharp enough to be able to tell when the broadcasters are trying to mislead you. The British Broadcast team does that sh*t a lot. They'll tell you a fight is close or even when it's not particularly close at all.catalin714 wrote: ↑31 May 2026, 13:20 The cpmubox numbers have been wrong before and are here again.When HBO used to do them they meant something,now they are absolutely rigged.
in the last round both landed 6 punches.Compubox said Holm landed 13.
Completely invented stuff.
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Re: Amanda Serrano vs. Cheyenne Hanson | ESPN - May 30, 2026
I disagree completely.ldlamb wrote: ↑31 May 2026, 16:02Whatever number you think are accurate….Holm landed substantially more punches in th at fight after the 4th round….wasnt just a punch here or there…substantially morecatalin714 wrote: ↑31 May 2026, 13:20 The cpmubox numbers have been wrong before and are here again.When HBO used to do them they meant something,now they are absolutely rigged.
in the last round both landed 6 punches.Compubox said Holm landed 13.
Completely invented stuff.
People just ate the narrative Poncher told them to eat.
Same thing happened in the Juarez-Valle fight but since nobody talked about it it didnt happen.