Reid has not fought in over a year now, does anyone know of his future plans or has he retired?
He did say after the Lacy loss he wasn't finished but that was the last thing I heard.
Robin Reid
I think that was the one screened on Bravo, it was on the Lynes-Gallardo undercard. Your right it was a very poor display, as bad as the Bravo broadcast itself.harrygreb wrote:i saw reid against some frenchman a couyple of fights ago in brentwood and they must have touched gloves in handshake a dozen times. pathetic - i shall never consider him a genuine contender in anything ever again i was so incensed
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Seriously, maybe Reids done ok and has enjoyed himself, but I cant help feeling that he's frittered away the best part of his career... he did absolutely nothing for years after the Calzaghe fight and then I thought was pretty much robbed against Ottke... but since the Ottke fight he's really been just going through the motions and his performance against Lacy was frankly embarrasing......
Always an overated fighter, in my opinion. Had his fair share of good fortune that people often forget.
Lets look at his career.
1) Why does no-one mention the Vincenzo Nardiello fight as one of the greatest victories by a Brit. To win a world title in Italy at short notice takes some doing..... The reason why is because it was only Vincenzo Nardiello in the corner, one of the poorer world champions I have seen who always quit when the going got tough. Nardiello was a tad fortunate beating an aging Sugar Boy Malinga (more about him later) for the title.
2) Defences against a Light Middleweight (who wasn't world class) and a fading Henry Wharton via majority decision (although Reid put on a good show IMO) are not that good. Wharton showed in the past he was strictly EBU title class, no better and Petrious didn't even show that.
3) Very lucky to get the decision vs Hasine Cherfi - world class Cherifi was, but at Middleweight.
4) Loses the title to Sugar Boy Malinga in THE worst world title fight I have ever seen. It made Johnny Nelson vs De Leon look good.
5) Does well vs Joe Calzaghe, won the fight in my eyes. But this was against a Calzaghe who couldn't spar and had suffered food poising (and if I remember, damaged hands in the fight). Joe shouldn't have been fighting and I think ALOT of fighters could have taken Joe that night.
6) Loses widely to Silvio Branco, stuggles to get past Julio Cesar Vasquez.
7) Does well vs an aging Ottke, I didn't think he was shafted and scoring in accordance to the reffering decisions - the right man got the verdict.
8) Was fortunate, IMO to get past Brian Magee. Clearly was getting outboxed at times. If I remember rightly, at least one of the KD's was dubious and should have had a few points docked for his headwork. Reid was a very dirty fighter, his head on Branco should have resulted in a DQ.
To me his resume and his performances in world class does not match up to Richie Woodhall, Richie holds wins over Branco and Malinga and beat Nardiello more convincingly. I would even consider Glenn Cately better than Reid, Cately beat Beyer and Eric Lucas and should have had the nod over Woodhall.
Lets look at his career.
1) Why does no-one mention the Vincenzo Nardiello fight as one of the greatest victories by a Brit. To win a world title in Italy at short notice takes some doing..... The reason why is because it was only Vincenzo Nardiello in the corner, one of the poorer world champions I have seen who always quit when the going got tough. Nardiello was a tad fortunate beating an aging Sugar Boy Malinga (more about him later) for the title.
2) Defences against a Light Middleweight (who wasn't world class) and a fading Henry Wharton via majority decision (although Reid put on a good show IMO) are not that good. Wharton showed in the past he was strictly EBU title class, no better and Petrious didn't even show that.
3) Very lucky to get the decision vs Hasine Cherfi - world class Cherifi was, but at Middleweight.
4) Loses the title to Sugar Boy Malinga in THE worst world title fight I have ever seen. It made Johnny Nelson vs De Leon look good.
5) Does well vs Joe Calzaghe, won the fight in my eyes. But this was against a Calzaghe who couldn't spar and had suffered food poising (and if I remember, damaged hands in the fight). Joe shouldn't have been fighting and I think ALOT of fighters could have taken Joe that night.
6) Loses widely to Silvio Branco, stuggles to get past Julio Cesar Vasquez.
7) Does well vs an aging Ottke, I didn't think he was shafted and scoring in accordance to the reffering decisions - the right man got the verdict.
8) Was fortunate, IMO to get past Brian Magee. Clearly was getting outboxed at times. If I remember rightly, at least one of the KD's was dubious and should have had a few points docked for his headwork. Reid was a very dirty fighter, his head on Branco should have resulted in a DQ.
To me his resume and his performances in world class does not match up to Richie Woodhall, Richie holds wins over Branco and Malinga and beat Nardiello more convincingly. I would even consider Glenn Cately better than Reid, Cately beat Beyer and Eric Lucas and should have had the nod over Woodhall.
Think you're being rather harsh on Robin there, Nardiello wasnt great but he was world class and Calzaghe didnt seem that bad against Reid yet Robin Matched him pretty much all though the fight, Joes always full of excuses, the truth is most fighters go into fights with a niggle here or there, Calzaghe just makes far more noise about it than most... Robins failing has been that he has been erratic (the Malinga loss was a bad one as I remember, he looked like he just couldnt be arsed that night) and he has basically been in semie retirement since the Calzaghe fight... which with his talent is a crime really... all in all I dont think his heart is 100% into boxing and its shown through his career... the shame of it is that with more effort he could have got one of the other titles and pressed for a rematch with Calzaghe... at his best I really dont think there was that much to choose in ability between Reid and Calzaghe...stujones wrote:Always an overated fighter, in my opinion. Had his fair share of good fortune that people often forget.
Lets look at his career.
1) Why does no-one mention the Vincenzo Nardiello fight as one of the greatest victories by a Brit. To win a world title in Italy at short notice takes some doing..... The reason why is because it was only Vincenzo Nardiello in the corner, one of the poorer world champions I have seen who always quit when the going got tough. Nardiello was a tad fortunate beating an aging Sugar Boy Malinga (more about him later) for the title.
2) Defences against a Light Middleweight (who wasn't world class) and a fading Henry Wharton via majority decision (although Reid put on a good show IMO) are not that good. Wharton showed in the past he was strictly EBU title class, no better and Petrious didn't even show that.
3) Very lucky to get the decision vs Hasine Cherfi - world class Cherifi was, but at Middleweight.
4) Loses the title to Sugar Boy Malinga in THE worst world title fight I have ever seen. It made Johnny Nelson vs De Leon look good.
5) Does well vs Joe Calzaghe, won the fight in my eyes. But this was against a Calzaghe who couldn't spar and had suffered food poising (and if I remember, damaged hands in the fight). Joe shouldn't have been fighting and I think ALOT of fighters could have taken Joe that night.
6) Loses widely to Silvio Branco, stuggles to get past Julio Cesar Vasquez.
7) Does well vs an aging Ottke, I didn't think he was shafted and scoring in accordance to the reffering decisions - the right man got the verdict.
8) Was fortunate, IMO to get past Brian Magee. Clearly was getting outboxed at times. If I remember rightly, at least one of the KD's was dubious and should have had a few points docked for his headwork. Reid was a very dirty fighter, his head on Branco should have resulted in a DQ.
To me his resume and his performances in world class does not match up to Richie Woodhall, Richie holds wins over Branco and Malinga and beat Nardiello more convincingly. I would even consider Glenn Cately better than Reid, Cately beat Beyer and Eric Lucas and should have had the nod over Woodhall.
I never said Robin wasn't world class, his performances over Ottke and Calzaghe confirmed this.silkov wrote:
Think you're being rather harsh on Robin there, Nardiello wasnt great but he was world class and Calzaghe didnt seem that bad against Reid yet Robin Matched him pretty much all though the fight, Joes always full of excuses, the truth is most fighters go into fights with a niggle here or there, Calzaghe just makes far more noise about it than most... Robins failing has been that he has been erratic (the Malinga loss was a bad one as I remember, he looked like he just couldnt be arsed that night) and he has basically been in semie retirement since the Calzaghe fight... which with his talent is a crime really... all in all I dont think his heart is 100% into boxing and its shown through his career... the shame of it is that with more effort he could have got one of the other titles and pressed for a rematch with Calzaghe... at his best I really dont think there was that much to choose in ability between Reid and Calzaghe...
Was Nardiello world class, well yes in the same respect we call Carlos Maussa world class. There are only two meaningful wins on his resume - thats Malinga (controvesial) and Galvano. He lost to the likes of Ray Close, Henry Wharton, Fidel Castro Smith, and Frederic Sellier before Reid got to him. None of these were world class.
Richie Woodhall, who had seen better days by then, showed Nardeillo just how world class he was. Aside from an embarring flash KD, Woodhall completely dominated and outclassed Nardeillo. Reid vs Nardeillo was close at the time of the stoppage.
Now, I know Joe has moaned alot in his career and you can check my archive I am no Calzaghe fan. However, I'm sure Boxingchat will back me up in saying that the Calzaghe vs Reid fight nearly didn't go ahead cause Joe had suffered food poising, and Joe's lack of sparring was also reported before the fight (as it was vs Lacy mind!). Joe completely embarresed Reid in the opening 4 rounds and its the one time where I believe Joe when he said his hands went - cause such a drastic turn in the fight happend. Who knows what effects the food poising had, I remember Joe was clearly irrate about it before hand and some potentially libelous claims were made - but it had to effect his performance. I've actually called it a poor display from Reid, even though its the closest anyone has come to beating Joe - I thought Reid should have made it beyond question thats how bad Joe was.
I don't think Joe would have had close struggles with Henry Wharton, Hasine Cherifi and Vincenzo Nardiello - and these were on Reid's good days.
As much as I think that the majority on this forum are overating Joe (check my contribution on the P4P thread) - too say Joe and Robin are on the same bracket in terms of talent is a bit rediculous, sorry.
Joe had a run of bad form in 1999 - 2000 when he was suffering with his preparation. He was terrible vs Reid, Starie and Thornbury. Indeed, many pundits tipped Sheika to beat Joe because of this bad run. But, Joe had a good run in the training and put in a top notch display.
Woodhall would have beaten Reid pretty comfortably IMO.
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