In which fights did you notice fighters are past prime?

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In which fights did you notice fighters are past prime?

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Lets talk about best fighters of this era:

Manny Pacquiao - 2012, first Bradley fight. Maybe third Marquez fight he did not look that good as in previous fights, but Marquez always gave Manny troubles. After Marquez KO in 4th fight, he adapted his style and fight more cautiously. Got a lot of wins, just prove how ATG he is.

Floyd Mayweather - Honestly, i think he was still at prime in 2015, when he retired. Noticed flaws in McGregor fight, took surprisingly clean hits in first rounds, but i am suspicious he did that on purpose.

Gennady Golovkin - Golovkin always had underrated defense. It was not that hard to hit him, but almost impossible to hit him cleanly. And that changed in Steve Rolls fight. his defense and reactions just was not there. Same with Derevyancheko.

Saul Alvarez - while Dmitri Bivol beat Canelo at his very prime, i think he slowed down after that loss. just like Manny Pacqiuao, adapted his style to more cagey and safe. He is also noticeably slower now

Oleksandr Usyk - really dont know what to think about his last performance. After textbook demolition of Dubois, Rico Verhoeven bring every kind of troubles into fight. Lets see Usyk next fight.

Terrence Crawford - at age of 38, nothing seems to fade. No problem to come out of retirement and beat Ennis at 154

Artur Beterbiev - also didnt notice anything that would suggest he is going downhill, but that was year and half ago. He is 41 now. Cant think of anyone who was at his very prime at that age

Tyson Fury - this is very questionable. It is more about lack of discipline and motivation here.

Anthony Joshua - Usyk fights took a lot from him IMO. he is shot after Dubois fight.

What do you think guys. You can add another top names and your opinions :) Is Naoya Inoue still at prime?
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Roy Jones Jr - versus Tarver 1; coming back down from heavyweight had really taken away his almost supernatural like athleticism.
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Syntax Error wrote: 17 Aug 2026, 05:28 Roy Jones Jr - versus Tarver 1; coming back down from heavyweight had really taken away his almost supernatural like athleticism.
imagine he had just retired after the Tarver 1 win..

GOAT'd..

i mean he still GOAT'd in his prime.. but he just loves to fight doesn't he..
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Aug 2026, 05:55
Syntax Error wrote: 17 Aug 2026, 05:28 Roy Jones Jr - versus Tarver 1; coming back down from heavyweight had really taken away his almost supernatural like athleticism.
imagine he had just retired after the Tarver 1 win..

GOAT'd..

i mean he still GOAT'd in his prime.. but he just loves to fight doesn't he..
Exactly, but he just kept on and on.

Another one I should mention is Marvelous Marvin Hagler V John Mugabi.
Marvin had lost his speed; in fact, he'd lost it against Hearns, but that fight wasn't long enough to truly judge, but against Mugabi, it was really evident.
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Hamed against Soto.

He'd slowed down a fair bit, and by the time he fought Sanchez, he was getting hit with shots that would've been nowhere near him two years before.

The Soto fight was an ugly, brawling mess. Hamed's reflexes had slowed and his hands had been messed up.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Aug 2026, 05:55
Syntax Error wrote: 17 Aug 2026, 05:28 Roy Jones Jr - versus Tarver 1; coming back down from heavyweight had really taken away his almost supernatural like athleticism.
imagine he had just retired after the Tarver 1 win..

GOAT'd..

i mean he still GOAT'd in his prime.. but he just loves to fight doesn't he..
He would've been rated higher than he is now, but like Lewis with Vitali, some folks will hold that Tarver fight against him and claim he ducked a guy he fought already.
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IKSRTFO wrote: 17 Aug 2026, 10:24
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Aug 2026, 05:55
Syntax Error wrote: 17 Aug 2026, 05:28 Roy Jones Jr - versus Tarver 1; coming back down from heavyweight had really taken away his almost supernatural like athleticism.
imagine he had just retired after the Tarver 1 win..

GOAT'd..

i mean he still GOAT'd in his prime.. but he just loves to fight doesn't he..
He would've been rated higher than he is now, but like Lewis with Vitali, some folks will hold that Tarver fight against him and claim he ducked a guy he fought already.
It's better for people to think you might've lost a rematch than for them to know for a fact that you DID lose the rematch (es)
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