Moses Jolly the next big thing in heavyweight boxing.

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Who trains Jolly? Anyone know?
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 23 Aug 2026, 16:02 Who trains Jolly? Anyone know?
David John of Swansea.
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JC wrote: 24 Aug 2026, 06:23
keithmoonhangover wrote: 23 Aug 2026, 16:02 Who trains Jolly? Anyone know?
David John of Swansea.
:TU: Thanks JC.
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Seems like a bit of a leap in levels. Vianello performed solidly enough against Ajagba and Makhmudov. I have not seen anything of Moses Jolly, but as others asked, is this a realistic step up for him?
I'm not sure too much can be read into Vianello's performance against Torrez Jr. who is a smaller heavy at 6'2" and picked up Olympic Silver.

Either way, good luck to him!
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Jolly so far seems to be deploying a hands low, high output “I’m the boss” sort of approach. Vianello can be pretty aggressive himself, certainly was in his last fight,

The Brit looks to be up against it but the first round should definitely be interesting to watch.
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Bit disappointing this is only set to be an 8 rounder.
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I personally don’t think it will go anywhere near 8 rounds.
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On the activity subject. The UK’s novice heavyweights really do have the most pathetic level of activity. Unusual if you see someone not at area title level yet fighting more than 4 times a year.
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Does any pro fight four times a year these days?
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Sweet Dick Willie wrote: 25 Aug 2026, 13:07 Does any pro fight four times a year these days?
Rookies maybe. Anybody that's a star, no.
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A big problem is journeymen Heavy & Cruises are that expensive, some cost 3 k a fight and that’s with notice .
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Floydendizer wrote: 25 Aug 2026, 15:27 A big problem is journeymen Heavy & Cruises are that expensive, some cost 3 k a fight and that’s with notice .
There will have to come a reckoning regarding purses soon. The division has been artificially propped up with Saudi money and not by the fans- who have been dwindling in number for ages.
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Anyone think he has a chance vs guido?
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On the Will Howe performance I’d say no unfortunately
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MasterG wrote: 20 Aug 2026, 12:43 Any relation to Martin Jolly?
Martin was game but was brought in as cannon fodder for prospects. Any time I remember seeing him he was getting starched. He seemed more game than an average journeyman though.
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TheLeprechaun wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 02:45
MasterG wrote: 20 Aug 2026, 12:43 Any relation to Martin Jolly?
Martin was game but was brought in as cannon fodder for prospects. Any time I remember seeing him he was getting starched. He seemed more game than an average journeyman though.
I think he featured in the Sweet Fighting Man book. He was very game outside the ring too, from what I remember.
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Definitely wouldn't have wanted to see him in a dark alley. Probably the nicest guy you could meet but had a pretty intimidating look. The red hair added to it :lol:
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As for Moses Jolly, I took a look at him and he is winging a lot of punches in with a porous looking defence to say the least. I'll be surprised if Vianello doesn't do him tonight inside the distance.
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TheLeprechaun wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 08:31 As for Moses Jolly, I took a look at him and he is winging a lot of punches in with a porous looking defence to say the least. I'll be surprised if Vianello doesn't do him tonight inside the distance.
They're mentioning him as a Kabayel opponent so it all makes sense.
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mickey1975 wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 08:57
TheLeprechaun wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 08:31 As for Moses Jolly, I took a look at him and he is winging a lot of punches in with a porous looking defence to say the least. I'll be surprised if Vianello doesn't do him tonight inside the distance.
They're mentioning him as a Kabayel opponent so it all makes sense.

Is Vianello handy on the cobbles?
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jameswilson wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 09:36
mickey1975 wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 08:57
TheLeprechaun wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 08:31 As for Moses Jolly, I took a look at him and he is winging a lot of punches in with a porous looking defence to say the least. I'll be surprised if Vianello doesn't do him tonight inside the distance.
They're mentioning him as a Kabayel opponent so it all makes sense.

Is Vianello handy on the cobbles?
No idea. Why?
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jameswilson wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 09:36
mickey1975 wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 08:57
TheLeprechaun wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 08:31 As for Moses Jolly, I took a look at him and he is winging a lot of punches in with a porous looking defence to say the least. I'll be surprised if Vianello doesn't do him tonight inside the distance.
They're mentioning him as a Kabayel opponent so it all makes sense.

Is Vianello handy on the cobbles?
Not as handy as Adam Smith
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mickey1975 wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 08:57
TheLeprechaun wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 08:31 As for Moses Jolly, I took a look at him and he is winging a lot of punches in with a porous looking defence to say the least. I'll be surprised if Vianello doesn't do him tonight inside the distance.
They're mentioning him as a Kabayel opponent so it all makes sense.
Quite an embarrassing cherry pick tbh. He's lost to Ajagba, who would be a worthwhile opponent, and Torrez who just got iced by Sanchez. He's also ranked down at 14 by the WBC, below a few more worthy contenders. Hate that his career doesn't match his skillset.
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Here's his chance to prove it.

Moses vs Guido is about to start now
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He got the draw in the end fair play to him.
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