gil's Refined Ranking System

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To me it more clearly defines why somebody is ranked where they are as opposed to simply saying "I have so and so ranked 7". I have him ranked where he is, and a detailed reason for having him ranked there. I'm satisfied with the results so far, and there have rarely been any major surprises or bad conclusions come to as a result of this ranking system.

I also just feel like it gives me a reason to continue to watch and take note Classic fights which was a hobby I enjoyed anyhow, and this list gives that hobby a purpose.

I like your list. A few are surprisingly higher or lower than I expected.
But a very interesting read and enjoying this so far.

I appreciate that tiny. At this point I'm mostly continuing on with this project out of my own personal interest in where it goes as it continues to grow, but I'm glad that at least a few people besides me appreciate it.

It really is such a beautiful thing to be able to go to YouTube and just watch fight after fight after fight of whichever fighter you're interested in seeing. Man what I wouldn't have given to have that 25 years ago. I would've had even less of a Social Life than the one I already didn't have

Brother I'm retired and I'm either watching boxing or youtu.be or stck watching Disney movies with grandkids
I have zero life

[gilgamesh]

"Sugar" Shane Mosley

With a record of 49-10-1 (41 KO's). Mosley competed in 22 Championship fights, and has a record of 15-7 in them.

He has 7 Quality wins (Phillip Holiday, Oscar De La Hoya 2x, Fernando Vargas 2x, Ricardo Mayorga and Antonio Margarito)

Out of those 1 of them is an All Time Great win (De La Hoya 1), and he has 2 Gold Star victories (De La Hoya 2 and Margarito)

Overall his score comes to 397 points

Mosley's Top 5 wins
1. Oscar De La Hoya 1
2. Antonio Margarito
3. Oscar De La Hoya 2
4. John John Molina
5. Phillip Holiday

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Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini

With a record of 29-5 (23 KO's). Mancini competed in 10 Championship fights, and has a record of 6-4 in them.

He has 4 Quality wins (Jose Luis Ramirez, Art Frias, Ernesto Espana and Bobby Chacon)

1 of them a Non Title Gold Star win (Ramirez)

Overall his score comes to 104 points

Top 5 wins for Mancini
1. Jose Luis Ramirez
2. Arturo Frias
3. Bobby Chacon
4. Ernesto Espana
5. Orlando Romero

[gilgamesh]

"The Bellflower Bomber" Jerry Quarry

With a record of 53-9-4 (32 KO's). Quarry competed in 3 Heavyweight Championship fights and has a record of 0-3 in them.

He has 5 Quality wins (Floyd Patterson (2nd fight), Earnie Shavers, Thad Spencer, Mac Foster and Ron Lyle)

His overall score comes to 29 points

[gilgamesh]

Ron Lyle

With a record of 43-7-1 (31 KO's). Lyle competed in 1 Heavyweight Championship fight losing to Muhammad Ali, and thus having an 0-1 record in title fights.

He has 2 Quality wins (Earnie Shavers and Jimmy Ellis)

His KO loss to George Foreman was one of the All Time Great Heavyweight slugfests, so he only receives a -10 for that KO defeat instead of a -20 due to the valiant effort he showed, and the tremendous fight it was.

Overall his score comes to 6 points

[gilgamesh]

Andy Ruiz takes a 10 point tumble after his UD loss to Damian Knyba, amazingly he avoided a stoppage loss as he was completely out on his feet at the end of the 7th round.

He maintains his spot in my ranking, but with 10 less points to his overall score.

[gilgamesh]

"The Baby Faced Assassin" Marco Antonio Barrera

With a record of 67-7 (44 KO's). Barrera competed in 29 Championship fights, and has a record of 25-4 in them.

He has 7 Quality wins (Kennedy McKinney, Naseem Hamed, Erik Morales 2 and 3, Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley and Robbie Peden)

2 of those are Gold Star victories (Morales 2 and 3) and 1 All Time great victory (Hamed)

His overall score comes to 582 points

Top 5 wins for Barrera
1. Naseem Hamed
2. Erik Morales 3
3. Erik Morales 2
4. Robbie Peden
5. Kennedy McKinney

[gilgamesh]

Danny "Little Red" Lopez

With a record of 42-6 (39 KO's). Lopez competed in 11 Championship fights, and has a record of 9-2 in them.

He has 10 Quality wins (Art Hafey, Sean O' Grady, Octavio Gomez 2, Ruben Olivares, Davey Kotey 1 and 2, Juan Domingo Malvarez, Mike Ayala and Jose Caba)

1 of them is an All time Great non title win (Olivares) and 1 of them is a Gold star victory (Mike Ayala)

Overall his score comes to 210 points

A Tremendously Entertaining fighter. Never a dull moment in a Lopez fight.

Top 5 wins for Lopez
1. Ruben Olivares
2. Mike Ayala
3. Juan Domingo Malvarez
4. Jose Torres
5. David Kotey 2

Figured I'd start adding that little Top 5 wins feature to the end of these.

[gilgamesh]

Salvador "Chava" Sanchez

With a record of 44-1-1 (32 KO's). Sanchez competed in 10 Championship fights, and has a record of 10-0 in them.

He has 10 Quality wins (Danny Lopez 1 and 2, Patrick Ford, Pat Cowdell, Wilfredo Gomez, Ruben Castillo, Juan LaPorte, Richard Rozelle, Nicky Perez, Azumah Nelson)

1 of them is an All Time Great win (Gomez) and 3 of them are Gold star wins (Lopez 1 and 2 and Azumah Nelson)

His overall score comes to 448 points

Top 5 wins for Sanchez
1. Wilfredo Gomez
2. Danny Lopez
3. Danny Lopez 2
4. Azumah Nelson
5. Pat Cowdell

[gilgamesh]

Hasim "The Rock" Rahman

With a record of 50-9-2 (41 KO's). Hasim Rahman competed in 6 Heavyweight Championship fights with a record of 1-4-1 in them. (I believe the Monte Barrett bout was an Interim Title fight, and not an actual title fight. Correct me if I'm wrong on that)

He has 3 Quality wins (Trevor Berbick, Corrie Sanders and Lennox Lewis) and 1 All Time Great win (Lennox Lewis)

His overall score comes to 168 points

Hasim Rahman made the unwise choice to return to the ring tonight, and lost a 6 round Unanimous Decision to Phillip Triantafillo.

With the loss he loses 10 points from his overall score. His score is now 158 points

Top 5 results for Rahman

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Corrie Sanders
3. James Toney (successful title defense with a Draw)
4. Kali Meehan
5. Trevor Berbick

[gilgamesh]

Juan Manuel Marquez

With a record of 56-7-1 (40 KO's). He competed in 18 Championship fights and has a record of 11-6-1 in them.

He has 10 Quality wins (Manuel Medina, Derrick Gainer, Orlando Salido, Robbie Peden, Joel Casamayor, Juan Diaz 2x, Michael Katsidis, Marco Antonio Barrera and Manny Pacquiao in their 4th fight)

He has 1 All Time Great win (Pacquiao 4) and 2 Gold star wins (Barrera and Casamayor)

His overall score comes to 497 points

Top 5 results for Marquez
1. Manny Pacquiao 4
2. Marco Antonio Barrera
3. Joel Casamayor
4. Juan Diaz
5. Manny Pacquiao 1 (Draw)

[gilgamesh]

Kostya Tszyu

With a record of 31-2 (25 KO's) and 1 No Contest. Tszyu competed in 16 Championship fights going 14-2 in them.

He has 10 Quality wins (Juan Laporte, Hector Lopez, Jake Rodriguez, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Julio Cesar Chavez, Rafael Ruelas, Oktay Urkal, Sharmba Mitchell 2x and Zab Judah)

4 of those are Gold star wins (Chavez, Judah and Mitchell 2x)

His overall score comes to 465 points

Top 5 wins for Tszyu
1. Zab Judah
2. Sharmba Mitchell 2
3. Sharmba Mitchell 1
4. Julio Cesar Chavez
5. Oktay Urkal

[gilgamesh]

Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez

With a record of 44-3-1 (42 KO's). Gomez competed in 23 Championship fights, and has a record of 20-3 in them.

He has 9 Quality wins (Dong Kyun Yum, Royal Kobayashi, Leo Cruz, Carlos Zarate, Juan Meza, Roberto Rubaldino, Lupe Pintor, Juan Laporte and Rocky Lockridge)

1 of those is an All Time Great win (Zarate) and another is a Gold star win (Pintor)

Overall his score comes to 347 points

Top 5 wins for Gomez
1. Carlos Zarate
2. Lupe Pintor
3. Juan Meza
4. Juan Laporte
5. Dong Kyun Yum

RIP Bazooka

[gilgamesh]

"Dynamite" Daniel Dubois

With a current record of 22-3 (21 KO's). Dubois has competed in 3 Heavyweight Championship bouts with a record of 1-2 in them.

He has 1 Quality win, and it's a Gold Star win (Anthony Joshua)

His score as of now is 126 points

With the 2 Fabio Wardley victories this year. Adding 2 more quality wins worth 13 points each to his ledger. Dubois' score is now 152 points

Wardley with the 2 losses has been demoted 50 points

[gilgamesh]

Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker

With a record of 40-4-1 (17 KO's). Whitaker competed in 23 Championship fights, and has a record of 19-3-1 in them.

He has 18 Quality wins (Roger Mayweather, Greg Haugen, Louie Lomeli, Jose Luis Ramirez 2, Freddie Pendleton, Azumah Nelson, Juan Nazario, Anthony Jones, Poli Diaz, Jorge Paez, Rafael Pineda, Buddy McGirt 2x, Santos Cardona, Julio Cesar Vasquez, Jake Rodriguez and Wilfredo Rivera 2x)

He has 6 Gold star performances (Ramirez 2, Nelson, Buddy McGirt 1 and 2, Julio Cesar Vasquez and his Draw with Julio Cesar Chavez)

I normally would never recognize a Draw as a Gold star performance, but in Whitaker's case it's only fair since he was robbed of an All Time Great win there by the judges, and nobody who's ever seen the fight would disagree he was the rightful winner of it.

Overall his score comes to 655 points

Top 5 performances for Whitaker
1. James "Buddy" McGirt 2
2. Julio Cesar Chavez (Draw in which Whitaker was quite obviously robbed)
3. Julio Cesar Vasquez
4. James "Buddy" McGirt
5. Azumah Nelson

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Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker

With a record of 40-4-1 (17 KO's). Whitaker competed in 23 Championship fights, and has a record of 19-3-1 in them.

He has 18 Quality wins (Roger Mayweather, Greg Haugen, Louie Lomeli, Jose Luis Ramirez 2, Freddie Pendleton, Azumah Nelson, Juan Nazario, Anthony Jones, Poli Diaz, Jorge Paez, Rafael Pineda, Buddy McGirt 2x, Santos Cardona, Julio Cesar Vasquez, Jake Rodriguez and Wilfredo Rivera 2x)

He has 6 Gold star performances (Ramirez 2, Nelson, Buddy McGirt 1 and 2, Julio Cesar Vasquez and his Draw with Julio Cesar Chavez)

I normally would never recognize a Draw as a Gold star performance, but in Whitaker's case it's only fair since he was robbed of an All Time Great win there by the judges, and nobody who's ever seen the fight would disagree he was the rightful winner of it.

Overall his score comes to 655 points

Top 5 performances for Whitaker
1. James "Buddy" McGirt 2
2. Julio Cesar Chavez (Draw in which Whitaker was quite obviously robbed)
3. Julio Cesar Vasquez
4. James "Buddy" McGirt
5. Azumah Nelson

At the time, the first Ramirez fight was seen seen as one of the biggest robberies in boxing history.

[gilgamesh]

It most certainly was too. The Draw with Chavez is even worse.

[gilgamesh]

Saul "Canelo" Alvarez

With a current record of 63-3-2 (39 KO's). Alvarez has competed in 28 Championship fights going 24-3-1 in them.

He has 14 Quality wins (Carlos Baldomir, Shane Mosley, Austin Trout, Erislandy Lara, Miguel Cotto, Amir Khan, Gennady Golovkin 2x, Daniel Jacobs, Sergey Kovalev, Callum Smith, Billy Joe Saunders, Caleb Plant and Jermell Charlo)

His current overall score is 586 points

With his over Christian Mbili yesterday. Canelo added another Championship win and Quality win to his ledger, and an additional 11 points to his overall score.

His score now stands at 597 points