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Is hype a modern phenomenon? Say the last 20 years? Is it a UK thing or worldwide?

I'm trying to think of the hype jobs I can remember.

David Price
Audley Harrison
Gerrard Cooney?
Jeff Lacey

Hopefully Moses will turn out to have been over hyped, rather than a hype job
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forcefraser wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 11:30 Is hype a modern phenomenon? Say the last 20 years? Is it a UK thing or worldwide?

I'm trying to think of the hype jobs I can remember.

David Price
Audley Harrison
Gerrard Cooney?
Jeff Lacey

Hopefully Moses will turn out to have been over hyped, rather than a hype job
I think it’s always been a thing
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Controversial wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 11:41
forcefraser wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 11:30 Is hype a modern phenomenon? Say the last 20 years? Is it a UK thing or worldwide?

I'm trying to think of the hype jobs I can remember.

David Price
Audley Harrison
Gerrard Cooney?
Jeff Lacey

Hopefully Moses will turn out to have been over hyped, rather than a hype job
I think it’s always been a thing
I, too, think it's always been a thing, but in today's society there are so many more outlets for it to take place.
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forcefraser wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 11:30 Is hype a modern phenomenon? Say the last 20 years? Is it a UK thing or worldwide?

I'm trying to think of the hype jobs I can remember.

David Price
Audley Harrison
Gerrard Cooney?
Jeff Lacey

Hopefully Moses will turn out to have been over hyped, rather than a hype job
A host of Ingle fighters were hyped. Khaliq Shaffique. Steve something. George Collins too
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It’s one of those things that’s to do with how a prospect is built. We’ve had some guys who were offensively unbelievable but history tells us there is always a guy out there who can extend them, nobody wins every fight by early KO. Thus until you’ve seen someone able to do it over the distance against a guy who doesn’t get hurt by their shots then don’t buy into anything.

I think Bruno was massively hyped as well before he got extended and beaten.
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The hype derailed Moses in a different way. From 10-0 it wasn’t doable financially to put him on more than twice a year.
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It's gone way over the top in the 21st century, especially with DAZN.

I'd push back on Gerry Cooney. The hype didn't start until the authentically terrifying way he blitzed Young, Lyle and Norton. Can't really blame people for getting excited about him.
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Surely the large amounts of money to be made have had a big influence on this nowadays.
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Riddick Bowie wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 16:14 It's gone way over the top in the 21st century, especially with DAZN.

I'd push back on Gerry Cooney. The hype didn't start until the authentically terrifying way he blitzed Young, Lyle and Norton. Can't really blame people for getting excited about him.
True, he did put up a brave effort against Holmes as well to be fair, albeit outclassed.

I'll replace him with Pele Reid , Frankie Gavin and Tony Agoggo
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David Price earned some of his hype because of his amateur career and his sheer size. Everyone thought when he turned over to the pros he would be successful.
Turns out the lighter gloves and fighting more than three rounds didn't suit him. He was often winning the first three rounds (except for the Teper fight)
It happens :maybe:
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Anyone remember Pele Reid :OhYes:

"As a child he fought Pit bulls in actual f*cking pits. He was literally in a pit full of pit bulls"
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mickey1975 wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 12:06 The hype derailed Moses in a different way. From 10-0 it wasn’t doable financially to put him on more than twice a year.
Great observation. Criminally inactive for a young fighter who was pulled from the amateur system early

Wilder had 30 come up fights. A guy with far less talent who held the WBC belt (hostage) for years. Tyson had 15 in his first year (and his gym sessions looked insane)
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I remember Francisco Bojado being hyped big time only to go nowhere.

David Reid you could say was a case of too much too soon, but in his case he took a serious beating from Trinidad when he stepped up

Duane Bobick and Gerry Cooney never quite lived up to everyone's hopes and expectations for them.

Donald Curry was to be the 2nd coming of Sugar Ray Leonard

Some of those guys reached a higher level than the others, but all fell short of what everyone originally thought or hoped for their talent. Curry really had a decent career if you're not trying to make him another Sugar Ray, and just accept that he was a good fighter, not a great one.
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Roman Greenberg was super hyped on secondsout for years but never really made an impact.

Mike Perez got very hyped as well when he landed in UK but then didn't kick on.
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The hype is on with Johnny Fisher.
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MasterG wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 03:50 The hype is on with Johnny Fisher.
Was, surely. No offence to Dave Allen, but you can't overhype anyone who has already lost to Dave Allen.
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Can you remember the Babic hype complete with in ring marriage proposals :OhYes:
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Riddick Bowie wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 16:14 It's gone way over the top in the 21st century, especially with DAZN.

I'd push back on Gerry Cooney. The hype didn't start until the authentically terrifying way he blitzed Young, Lyle and Norton. Can't really blame people for getting excited about him.
Also, if you finish your career with only 3 losses, against Holmes, Spinks and Foreman, I don't know if that's the same thing as losing on points to Martin Rogan.
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SeanBrennan wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 04:17 Can you remember the Babic hype complete with in ring marriage proposals :OhYes:
even I knew this was going to be a short ride but it was fun along the way. t'was the pandemic
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the biggest hype job of all time was Francisco “Panchito” Bojado

what was that fighter that was hyped for a minute who beat jimmy Vincent but didn't get the nod.
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golden_labrador wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 04:30
SeanBrennan wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 04:17 Can you remember the Babic hype complete with in ring marriage proposals :OhYes:
even I knew this was going to be a short ride but it was fun along the way. t'was the pandemic
Twas indeed
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gilgamesh wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 00:01 I remember Francisco Bojado being hyped big time only to go nowhere.
He had HUGE crowds early on, didn't he.

But I think he got arrested on an assault charge or he got assaulted. Either way, someone got a massive gash on their face (trademark The Inbetweeners)
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Taansend wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 22:26
gilgamesh wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 00:01 I remember Francisco Bojado being hyped big time only to go nowhere.
He had HUGE crowds early on, didn't he.

But I think he got arrested on an assault charge or he got assaulted. Either way, someone got a massive gash on their face (trademark The Inbetweeners)
There was a Colombian guy they were touting as a Future Superstar that didn't pan out at one point also.

Joel Julio? I think that was the name
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gilgamesh wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 23:06
Taansend wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 22:26
gilgamesh wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 00:01 I remember Francisco Bojado being hyped big time only to go nowhere.
He had HUGE crowds early on, didn't he.

But I think he got arrested on an assault charge or he got assaulted. Either way, someone got a massive gash on their face (trademark The Inbetweeners)
There was a Colombian guy they were touting as a Future Superstar that didn't pan out at one point also.

Joel Julio? I think that was the name
He's still fighting
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Taansend wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 23:25
gilgamesh wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 23:06
Taansend wrote: 31 Aug 2026, 22:26

He had HUGE crowds early on, didn't he.

But I think he got arrested on an assault charge or he got assaulted. Either way, someone got a massive gash on their face (trademark The Inbetweeners)
There was a Colombian guy they were touting as a Future Superstar that didn't pan out at one point also.

Joel Julio? I think that was the name
He's still fighting
Any day now that guy is gonna live up to the hype :OhYes:
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