Round-by-Round: Moses Itauma vs. Filip Hrgovic - 29 August 2026

[Ruthless-RKO]

Just seen a bus with the ‘witness history’ poster still on.

Oh I witnessed history oryt..

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Eolaithe]

Ah man, you know having now re-read the post you are probably correct with your assumption (sadly). It is perfectly written with good grammar and like perfect punctuation with full use of colons and semi colons throughout. It all reads so well; too well. And check the way Big Phil's surname is written. Who would actually bother or even have the correct keyboard language settings downloaded to put the correct stress mark on the last letter (c) of his surname.....

I have been a member of the BoxRec forum since February 2019, which is clearly much earlier than when LLM technology became mainstream.

Here is one of my earliest posts: viewtopic.php?p=5107603#p5107603

So what?

You join Boxrec in 2019 so somehow that means you can't get a Chat GPT account and start feeding your crappy posts into it so it can punch it up for you?

I work with AI. The post in question, complete with the symbols for Hrgovic's name, IS written by AI, and you left all the tells in because you are stupid.

Your deep rooted need to be seen as clever and receive praise is pitiful for a grown man.

Is there a meaningful difference between the way I articulate my thoughts today compared to February 2019?

If the answer is “no”, then it’s abundantly obvious that I’m neither reliant on using LLMs to rewrite my words nor can anyone confidently claim that every opinion I’ve ever conveyed to this forum has been AI generated.

LLMs went mainstream in late 2022 when OpenAI released ChatGPT, the first powerful AI model with a simple, free chat interface that anyone could use without coding. Advanced models existed earlier, but ChatGPT was the turning point because it made AI accessible to the general public.

Here’s another lengthy post I submitted to the BoxRec forum 7½ years ago: viewtopic.php?p=5106997#p5106997

And here’s an example of a post I submitted 5½ years ago that uses diacritics within the name of one of the fighters under discussion: viewtopic.php?p=5507173#p5507173

[Ruthless-RKO]

Official scorecards were:

80-71
80-71
79-72

for Moses..

I mean.. after 4/5 rounds, it was clear that Moses was gonna have a tough time stopping Hrg.. He could have paced himself better and then even won a decision..

[JamesPhilips]

I have been a member of the BoxRec forum since February 2019, which is clearly much earlier than when LLM technology became mainstream.

Here is one of my earliest posts: viewtopic.php?p=5107603#p5107603

So what?

You join Boxrec in 2019 so somehow that means you can't get a Chat GPT account and start feeding your crappy posts into it so it can punch it up for you?

I work with AI. The post in question, complete with the symbols for Hrgovic's name, IS written by AI, and you left all the tells in because you are stupid.

Your deep rooted need to be seen as clever and receive praise is pitiful for a grown man.

Is there a meaningful difference between the way I articulate my thoughts today compared to February 2019?

If the answer is “no”, then it’s abundantly obvious that I’m neither reliant on using LLMs to rewrite my words nor can anyone confidently claim that every opinion I’ve ever conveyed to this forum has been AI generated.

LLMs went mainstream in late 2022 when OpenAI released ChatGPT, the first powerful AI model with a simple, free chat interface that anyone could use without coding. Advanced models existed earlier, but ChatGPT was the turning point because it made AI accessible to the general public.

Here’s another lengthy post I submitted to the BoxRec forum 7½ years ago: viewtopic.php?p=5106997#p5106997

And here’s an example of a post I submitted 5½ years ago that uses diacritics within the name of one of the fighters under discussion: viewtopic.php?p=5507173#p5507173

AI writing tools have been available way before 2019. And GPT 1 itself has been publically available since 2018. Maybe you’re in the industry and testing the reliability of your product. Your posts lack any kind of human feel. I bet these isn’t a single spelling error or typo or grammatical error anywhere.

Also with this quote - me thinks you doth protest too much. You sound like a lawyer defending his client even though he knows he’s guilty

[Eolaithe]

So what?

You join Boxrec in 2019 so somehow that means you can't get a Chat GPT account and start feeding your crappy posts into it so it can punch it up for you?

I work with AI. The post in question, complete with the symbols for Hrgovic's name, IS written by AI, and you left all the tells in because you are stupid.

Your deep rooted need to be seen as clever and receive praise is pitiful for a grown man.

Is there a meaningful difference between the way I articulate my thoughts today compared to February 2019?

If the answer is “no”, then it’s abundantly obvious that I’m neither reliant on using LLMs to rewrite my words nor can anyone confidently claim that every opinion I’ve ever conveyed to this forum has been AI generated.

LLMs went mainstream in late 2022 when OpenAI released ChatGPT, the first powerful AI model with a simple, free chat interface that anyone could use without coding. Advanced models existed earlier, but ChatGPT was the turning point because it made AI accessible to the general public.

Here’s another lengthy post I submitted to the BoxRec forum 7½ years ago: viewtopic.php?p=5106997#p5106997

And here’s an example of a post I submitted 5½ years ago that uses diacritics within the name of one of the fighters under discussion: viewtopic.php?p=5507173#p5507173

AI writing tools have been available way before 2019. And GPT 1 itself has been publically available since 2018. Maybe you’re in the industry and testing the reliability of your product. Your posts lack any kind of human feel. I bet these isn’t a single spelling error or typo or grammatical error anywhere.

Also with this quote - me thinks you doth protest too much. You sound like a lawyer defending his client even though he knows he’s guilty

I didn't just attend school but managed to obtain a decent education.

If correct spelling, grammar and coherent thought seem so beyond ordinary human capability that you immediately suspect AI, you've inadvertently revealed considerably more about your own ability to construct sentences than you have about mine.

I’m not entirely sure I’m the one being insulted by your words.

[JamesPhilips]

Is there a meaningful difference between the way I articulate my thoughts today compared to February 2019?

If the answer is “no”, then it’s abundantly obvious that I’m neither reliant on using LLMs to rewrite my words nor can anyone confidently claim that every opinion I’ve ever conveyed to this forum has been AI generated.

LLMs went mainstream in late 2022 when OpenAI released ChatGPT, the first powerful AI model with a simple, free chat interface that anyone could use without coding. Advanced models existed earlier, but ChatGPT was the turning point because it made AI accessible to the general public.

Here’s another lengthy post I submitted to the BoxRec forum 7½ years ago: viewtopic.php?p=5106997#p5106997

And here’s an example of a post I submitted 5½ years ago that uses diacritics within the name of one of the fighters under discussion: viewtopic.php?p=5507173#p5507173

AI writing tools have been available way before 2019. And GPT 1 itself has been publically available since 2018. Maybe you’re in the industry and testing the reliability of your product. Your posts lack any kind of human feel. I bet these isn’t a single spelling error or typo or grammatical error anywhere.

Also with this quote - me thinks you doth protest too much. You sound like a lawyer defending his client even though he knows he’s guilty

I didn't just attend school but managed to obtain a decent education.

If correct spelling, grammar and coherent thought seem so beyond ordinary human capability that you immediately suspect AI, you've inadvertently revealed considerably more about your own ability to construct sentences than you have about mine.

I’m not entirely sure I’m the one being insulted by your words.

Everyone makes human mistakes when typing posts online, because it’s not a PHD, it’s just a quick comment. Plus autocorrect can often miswrite words…. All except you apparently. Not a single error ever. Even including the accents on Hrgovic and Sanchez’s names which I have never seen another forum member ever use once. I’m sorry no one is that anal or autistic. You’re using AI or are a bot

[joshj909]

It's become a thread about AI now, but, I have noticed a lot of accounts with old registration dates yet not a lot of posts, starting to post long, formulaic posts with almost too perfect spelling, grammar and punctuation. I don't know if it's because they are solely using AI, feeding their posts into AI to correct and restructure or they're weirdly spending too long reviewing their text before posting but there are a few around now and they don't feel human. Post a short post with mistakes every now and then, give an opinion based on a feeling, not facts.

Whether this guy is real or not, I have blocked one other frequent poster because their posts look sus. This guy has some older short posts with correct grammar, less formulaic but weirdly proper grammar for a forum like this there has been grammar check sites and apps for a lot longer than there has been AI for public use.

[Heldenjaeger]

The funniest part of the Eolaithe AI debate is finding his old posts and seeing what the human version was capable of:

Neither man will become a world heavyweight champion, unless they capture a secondary belt.

About Usyk and Hrgovic.

Maybe AI is an upgrade.

[JamesPhilips]

It's become a thread about AI now, but, I have noticed a lot of accounts with old registration dates yet not a lot of posts, starting to post long, formulaic posts with almost too perfect spelling, grammar and punctuation. I don't know if it's because they are solely using AI, feeding their posts into AI to correct and restructure or they're weirdly spending too long reviewing their text before posting but there are a few around now and they don't feel human. Post a short post with mistakes every now and then, give an opinion based on a feeling, not facts.

Whether this guy is real or not, I have blocked one other frequent poster because their posts look sus. This guy has some older short posts with correct grammar, less formulaic but weirdly proper grammar for a forum like this there has been grammar check sites and apps for a lot longer than there has been AI for public use.

The giveaway is the use of accents. Hrgović, Sánchez and even Durán. viewtopic.php?p=6211234&hilit=Duran#p6211234 Technically those are the correct spellings but in my decades of being obsessed with boxing I can’t remember ever seeing those used in print or online when written in English

[Heldenjaeger]

At first his posts actually reminded me of Gareth A Davies: very polished, lots of words but not much understanding of what is actually happening in the ring. Then I saw the "I asked ChatGPT and was impressed" post:

I asked ChatGPT to predict the outcome of this fight… and it’s prediction was pretty impressive:

Since May 2019, Wilder’s form has been poor: four losses, three brutal knockouts, and only two wins against limited opposition.

Chisora hasn’t been flawless either — losses to Usyk, Fury, and Parker — but he’s consistently mixed with elite company and pushed two of them harder than expected.

Chisora’s résumé in that same timeframe is more impressive: wins over Wallin, Joyce, Pulev, Washington, Price, Szpilka, and Gashi.

Yes, some were tight calls, but the activity and competitiveness speak for themselves. On form alone, he’s been the steadier fighter.

But form isn’t the whole story. Chisora is 42, competing at his career-heaviest weight, and has absorbed a lot of punishment.

Fighters with that mileage can seemingly age “overnight” — meaning that tonight, we may witness a version of ‘Del Boy’ with slower feet, slower reactions, and a susceptible chin that is incapable of withstanding Wilder’s heavy blows.

Wilder’s path is narrower but real. If he approaches the fight with the discipline he showed in the first Stiverne bout — long jab, controlled distance, smart movement, and selective right hands — he can keep Chisora at the end of his reach and avoid the kind of exchanges that drain him.

I still lean toward Chisora’s pressure and persistence to win this fight, but if Wilder stays disciplined and refuses to brawl, the American has a legitimate route to victory.

[Boxerbeetle]

It’s so weird when people ask Chat GPT about sport. It’s like they believe it’s actually giving an opinion, not just summarising and regurgitating what others have written before. It’s not a robot sitting down watching historic fights, ffs

[Eolaithe]

At first his posts actually reminded me of Gareth A Davies: very polished, lots of words but not much understanding of what is actually happening in the ring. Then I saw the "I asked ChatGPT and was impressed" post:

I asked ChatGPT to predict the outcome of this fight… and it’s prediction was pretty impressive:

Since May 2019, Wilder’s form has been poor: four losses, three brutal knockouts, and only two wins against limited opposition.

Chisora hasn’t been flawless either — losses to Usyk, Fury, and Parker — but he’s consistently mixed with elite company and pushed two of them harder than expected.

Chisora’s résumé in that same timeframe is more impressive: wins over Wallin, Joyce, Pulev, Washington, Price, Szpilka, and Gashi.

Yes, some were tight calls, but the activity and competitiveness speak for themselves. On form alone, he’s been the steadier fighter.

But form isn’t the whole story. Chisora is 42, competing at his career-heaviest weight, and has absorbed a lot of punishment.

Fighters with that mileage can seemingly age “overnight” — meaning that tonight, we may witness a version of ‘Del Boy’ with slower feet, slower reactions, and a susceptible chin that is incapable of withstanding Wilder’s heavy blows.

Wilder’s path is narrower but real. If he approaches the fight with the discipline he showed in the first Stiverne bout — long jab, controlled distance, smart movement, and selective right hands — he can keep Chisora at the end of his reach and avoid the kind of exchanges that drain him.

I still lean toward Chisora’s pressure and persistence to win this fight, but if Wilder stays disciplined and refuses to brawl, the American has a legitimate route to victory.

Please explain why my post shows a poor understanding of boxing.

I’m not looking for hindsight comparisons. Please provide a detailed, sentence-by-sentence critique of the views you found bizarre (in the context of the date the post was written).

As a more knowledgeable boxing expert than an intellectually subnormal person like me, please share your wisdom, by proving the accuracy of your Wilder–Chisora prediction.

[Heldenjaeger]

Please explain why my post shows a poor understanding of boxing.

I’m not looking for hindsight comparisons. Please provide a detailed, sentence-by-sentence critique of the views you found bizarre (in the context of the date the post was written).

As a more knowledgeable boxing expert than an intellectually subnormal person like me, please share your wisdom, by proving the accuracy of your Wilder–Chisora prediction.

Instead of watching what's going on in the ring and drawing conclusions from that, you always seem to focus on resumes, rankings, titles, age, activity and so on.
I said Itauma looked spent in round 3 against Hrgovic and got laughed at. Afterwards I pointed out exactly what was going wrong for him once Hrgovic started taking away his distance and pace.
Against Torrez I said Sanchez wasn't moving much because he was looking to time him. One minute later he timed him and knocked him out.
I said Usyk looked shot in round 1 against Rico because his legs were gone and he couldn't create angles. Got laughed at for that one too. Then he gave up the belts and now apparently just wants one farewell fight.
Doesn't mean I don't predict fights horribly wrong sometimes. But reading a fight while it's happening is something ChatGPT and Gareth A Davies are not capable of.

[overhand_right]

So what?

You join Boxrec in 2019 so somehow that means you can't get a Chat GPT account and start feeding your crappy posts into it so it can punch it up for you?

I work with AI. The post in question, complete with the symbols for Hrgovic's name, IS written by AI, and you left all the tells in because you are stupid.

Your deep rooted need to be seen as clever and receive praise is pitiful for a grown man.

Is there a meaningful difference between the way I articulate my thoughts today compared to February 2019?

If the answer is “no”, then it’s abundantly obvious that I’m neither reliant on using LLMs to rewrite my words nor can anyone confidently claim that every opinion I’ve ever conveyed to this forum has been AI generated.

LLMs went mainstream in late 2022 when OpenAI released ChatGPT, the first powerful AI model with a simple, free chat interface that anyone could use without coding. Advanced models existed earlier, but ChatGPT was the turning point because it made AI accessible to the general public.

Here’s another lengthy post I submitted to the BoxRec forum 7½ years ago: viewtopic.php?p=5106997#p5106997

And here’s an example of a post I submitted 5½ years ago that uses diacritics within the name of one of the fighters under discussion: viewtopic.php?p=5507173#p5507173

AI writing tools have been available way before 2019. And GPT 1 itself has been publically available since 2018. Maybe you’re in the industry and testing the reliability of your product. Your posts lack any kind of human feel. I bet these isn’t a single spelling error or typo or grammatical error anywhere.

Also with this quote - me thinks you doth protest too much. You sound like a lawyer defending his client even though he knows he’s guilty

Everything about him screams "fraud"

[margaret thatcher]

enlightened one getting passed around from dude to dude

[mickey1975]

Title shot? Didn't they just hand him (Kabayel) the WBC Title?

Yeah, finally. But no money in that until he fights someone.

Hey with the WBC Title at stake his next fight will almost certainly be worth more than his previous one against Damian Knyba.

The Knyba win looks a little better now.

[golden_labrador]

At first his posts actually reminded me of Gareth A Davies: very polished, lots of words but not much understanding of what is actually happening in the ring. Then I saw the "I asked ChatGPT and was impressed" post:

I asked ChatGPT to predict the outcome of this fight… and it’s prediction was pretty impressive:

Since May 2019, Wilder’s form has been poor: four losses, three brutal knockouts, and only two wins against limited opposition.

Chisora hasn’t been flawless either — losses to Usyk, Fury, and Parker — but he’s consistently mixed with elite company and pushed two of them harder than expected.

Chisora’s résumé in that same timeframe is more impressive: wins over Wallin, Joyce, Pulev, Washington, Price, Szpilka, and Gashi.

Yes, some were tight calls, but the activity and competitiveness speak for themselves. On form alone, he’s been the steadier fighter.

But form isn’t the whole story. Chisora is 42, competing at his career-heaviest weight, and has absorbed a lot of punishment.

Fighters with that mileage can seemingly age “overnight” — meaning that tonight, we may witness a version of ‘Del Boy’ with slower feet, slower reactions, and a susceptible chin that is incapable of withstanding Wilder’s heavy blows.

Wilder’s path is narrower but real. If he approaches the fight with the discipline he showed in the first Stiverne bout — long jab, controlled distance, smart movement, and selective right hands — he can keep Chisora at the end of his reach and avoid the kind of exchanges that drain him.

I still lean toward Chisora’s pressure and persistence to win this fight, but if Wilder stays disciplined and refuses to brawl, the American has a legitimate route to victory.

Please explain why my post shows a poor understanding of boxing.

I’m not looking for hindsight comparisons. Please provide a detailed, sentence-by-sentence critique of the views you found bizarre (in the context of the date the post was written).

As a more knowledgeable boxing expert than an intellectually subnormal person like me, please share your wisdom, by proving the accuracy of your Wilder–Chisora prediction.

maybe I'm wrong but some of your posts seem like they were written by ChatGPT.

[keithmoonhangover]

enlightened one getting passed around from dude to dude

Like a five dollar whore.

[bmw hector]

His posts aren't passing the proverbial eyeball test.

[keithmoonhangover]

At first his posts actually reminded me of Gareth A Davies: very polished, lots of words but not much understanding of what is actually happening in the ring. Then I saw the "I asked ChatGPT and was impressed" post:

I asked ChatGPT to predict the outcome of this fight… and it’s prediction was pretty impressive:

Since May 2019, Wilder’s form has been poor: four losses, three brutal knockouts, and only two wins against limited opposition.

Chisora hasn’t been flawless either — losses to Usyk, Fury, and Parker — but he’s consistently mixed with elite company and pushed two of them harder than expected.

Chisora’s résumé in that same timeframe is more impressive: wins over Wallin, Joyce, Pulev, Washington, Price, Szpilka, and Gashi.

Yes, some were tight calls, but the activity and competitiveness speak for themselves. On form alone, he’s been the steadier fighter.

But form isn’t the whole story. Chisora is 42, competing at his career-heaviest weight, and has absorbed a lot of punishment.

Fighters with that mileage can seemingly age “overnight” — meaning that tonight, we may witness a version of ‘Del Boy’ with slower feet, slower reactions, and a susceptible chin that is incapable of withstanding Wilder’s heavy blows.

Wilder’s path is narrower but real. If he approaches the fight with the discipline he showed in the first Stiverne bout — long jab, controlled distance, smart movement, and selective right hands — he can keep Chisora at the end of his reach and avoid the kind of exchanges that drain him.

I still lean toward Chisora’s pressure and persistence to win this fight, but if Wilder stays disciplined and refuses to brawl, the American has a legitimate route to victory.

Please explain why my post shows a poor understanding of boxing.

I’m not looking for hindsight comparisons. Please provide a detailed, sentence-by-sentence critique of the views you found bizarre (in the context of the date the post was written).

As a more knowledgeable boxing expert than an intellectually subnormal person like me, please share your wisdom, by proving the accuracy of your Wilder–Chisora prediction.

Did you formally post as Rover?

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Ruthless-RKO]

FRANK~WARREN: “I DIDN’T WANT HRGOVIC FOR ITAUMA”

Frank~Warren has revealed Moses Itauma’s team pushed for the Filip Hrgovic fight despite Warren wanting a different opponent.

“They said Hrgovic was the opponent they wanted and that he’s perfect in every way.”

Warren added that he will sit down with Itauma’s team in the coming weeks to discuss what went wrong and what changes need to be made moving forward.

Source: The Ring

[JamesPhilips]

FRANK~WARREN: “I DIDN’T WANT HRGOVIC FOR ITAUMA”

Frank~Warren has revealed Moses Itauma’s team pushed for the Filip Hrgovic fight despite Warren wanting a different opponent.

“They said Hrgovic was the opponent they wanted and that he’s perfect in every way.”

Warren added that he will sit down with Itauma’s team in the coming weeks to discuss what went wrong and what changes need to be made moving forward.

Source: The Ring

Of course nothing would ever be Frank’s fault would it