Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua | NETFLIX - Winter 2026 *new thread*

[Boxerbeetle]

Strange how Fury is always the common denominator when fights don’t get made, isn’t it.

How? Literally the only common denominator in the Fury/Wilder/AJ era fights that didn't get made is AJ!

Usyk had to drag him kicking and screaming into the ring. And let’s not forget ducking the Price fight!

[mickey1975]

Strange how Fury is always the common denominator when fights don’t get made, isn’t it.

How? Literally the only common denominator in the Fury/Wilder/AJ era fights that didn't get made is AJ!

Not correct. AJ signed to fight Fury and Fury fought Wilder for the third time. AJ-Wilder was agreed, but Wilder lost to Parker and the 86'd the fight. Neither of those were AJ's fault.

Did he box either?

[mickey1975]

Strange how Fury is always the common denominator when fights don’t get made, isn’t it.

How? Literally the only common denominator in the Fury/Wilder/AJ era fights that didn't get made is AJ!

Usyk had to drag him kicking and screaming into the ring. And let’s not forget ducking the Price fight!

Did he? It looked extremely good business waiting for the right money. He boxed Price for free.

[keithmoonhangover]

How? Literally the only common denominator in the Fury/Wilder/AJ era fights that didn't get made is AJ!

Not correct. AJ signed to fight Fury and Fury fought Wilder for the third time. AJ-Wilder was agreed, but Wilder lost to Parker and the 86'd the fight. Neither of those were AJ's fault.

Did he box either?

Did Fury or Wilder box AJ?

[Gran Hermano]

This is all Hearn not wanting to bow to Dana White and have this staged in America. He doesn't want egg on his face after saying he was nothing to do with it. Hearn has cried in the past about certain promoters not wanting him present when one of his fighters is on their card. He's doing the exact same shit here.. I've no doubt Joshua wants the fight but his loyalty to Hearn is fornicating him over here.

[Eolaithe]

We’re roughly ten weeks from the proposed Fury–Joshua fight-date (21st November at Wembley Stadium), but the terms originally agreed no longer appear to match the event the organisers are currently trying to stage.

Fury and Joshua originally signed to fight in the UK, with Hearn saying the contracts excluded promotional involvement from TKO and Zuffa.

The organisers(i.e. Turki Alalshikh) subsequently pushed for Madison Square Garden in New York on the 20th November, with Netflix, and TKO/Zuffa involved in those plans.

The new requirement materially changes the terms of the original deal. Moving the fight to America affects Joshua financially, including his tax position, while the proposed involvement of TKO/Zuffa also conflicts with terms Hearn says were contained in the original contracts.

As a result, Matchroom sought revised financial terms and other concessions before agreeing to the New York proposal.

Fury’s side has already accepted the revised arrangements (resulting in the revised contracts being signed), but Joshua and Matchroom have not agreed to the proposed New York terms.

In other words, the original UK fight was signed, but the substantially different version now being proposed has not been agreed by Eddie Hearn and Anthony Joshua.

[joshj909]

Is Turki liable to be sued if he will not put together the fight from the original agreement?

[Ruthless-RKO]

[keithmoonhangover]

Is Turki liable to be sued if he will not put together the fight from the original agreement?

It's different, but it reminds me of things like....... Triller paying over the odds for the Teo Lopez vs George Kambosos purse bid and ended up having to forfeit the $1,200,000 deposit. Tyson paying Lewis to over $4,000,000 to step aside, even though Tyson vacated the title. And who can forget the Fres Oquendo/WBA situation, which dragged on for years.

If Aj digs his heals in, this could get really messy. But money talks, so I'm sure they'll find a way.

[Ruthless-RKO]

ANTHONY JOSHUA 'TICKING OVER' WITH BEN DAVISON, AWAITS TYSON FURY NEWS

Anthony Joshua is back training in Ben Davison's Essex gym as he awaits an end to the Tyson Fury contract saga.

The 36-year-old officially parted ways with Davison following his crushing Wembley Stadium defeat to Daniel Dubois in September 2024.

Joshua has since been training in Spain alongside Oleksandr Usyk and his team for the victories over Jake Paul and Kristian Prenga over the past nine months.

He is now hoping to finally secure a fight against Fury with a date in November earmarked for them to clash. However, there has been a tortuous hold-up due to a discrepancy in their fight contracts.

Joshua’s deal stipulates that the fight must take place in the UK while Fury’s has no such clause. As such, a proposed showdown in Madison Square Garden, New York, earmarked for November 20, could not be finalized.

Joshua’s promoter Eddie Hearn has since sent an addendum to that initial contract but Fury has publicly declared that he is now seeking a different opponent as he believes the fight is off.

Meanwhile, Joshua is still keeping himself in fighting shape and has linked back up with Davison to do so.

The pair have remained on good terms since officially going their separate ways and kept in touch over the past two years. A source told The Ring that Joshua wanted to keep ticking over in familiar surroundings so asked Davison for his help.

A picture posted by Frazer Clarke on Monday, of him alongside Joshua and another Davison heavyweight, Jeamie TKV, confirmed the short term switch, although it is understood that there are currently no plans to move back full time once his next fight is announced.

[coneye]

Bet the Fury camp are rubbing there hands with glee , on this news , Hoping even more its gonna happen. Whats the story behind Mckracken , he certainly does'nt seem to want to go back there , and thats where he looked his best

[Ruthless-RKO]

Oleksandr Usyk's camp say he's not Tyson Fury's 'back-up plan'

Tyson Fury's claim that he has turned his attention to a third fight with Oleksandr Usyk has been called rubbish by the Ukrainian's managers.

Negotiations are still ongoing for a heavyweight clash between Fury and Anthony Joshua in November, but Fury insists his fellow Briton is seeking ways to back out of the deal.

Fury has issued a series of messages on social media to Usyk, who beat him in May and December 2024, proposing the unbeaten 39-year-old steps in to turn their rivalry into a trilogy.

But in a statement to Sky Sports News, Usyk's manager, Sergey Lapin, said: "Usyk is not Tyson's back-up plan.

"If Fury needs an opponent, he should visit the Ready to Fight platform. They can help him find a worthy opponent there.

"Oleksandr is always open to big challenges. But serious intentions are backed by a concrete offer, not statements in the press."

Usyk vacated his three heavyweight belts in June shortly after beating former kickboxer Rico Verhoeven in Cairo. But he has made no indication of retirement.

Fury insisted Sunday that he had given up on facing Joshua, who "would never fight the Gypsy King," and announced that he was looking for a new opponent.

Fury and Joshua have already signed individual contracts for the fight but negotiations have stalled over the venue, with Joshua reportedly insisting it takes place in London, while other options including New York's Madison Square Garden are also being considered.

[keithmoonhangover]

Oleksandr Usyk's camp say he's not Tyson Fury's 'back-up plan'

Tyson Fury's claim that he has turned his attention to a third fight with Oleksandr Usyk has been called rubbish by the Ukrainian's managers.

Negotiations are still ongoing for a heavyweight clash between Fury and Anthony Joshua in November, but Fury insists his fellow Briton is seeking ways to back out of the deal.

Fury has issued a series of messages on social media to Usyk, who beat him in May and December 2024, proposing the unbeaten 39-year-old steps in to turn their rivalry into a trilogy.

But in a statement to Sky Sports News, Usyk's manager, Sergey Lapin, said: "Usyk is not Tyson's back-up plan.

"If Fury needs an opponent, he should visit the Ready to Fight platform. They can help him find a worthy opponent there.

"Oleksandr is always open to big challenges. But serious intentions are backed by a concrete offer, not statements in the press."

Usyk vacated his three heavyweight belts in June shortly after beating former kickboxer Rico Verhoeven in Cairo. But he has made no indication of retirement.

Fury insisted Sunday that he had given up on facing Joshua, who "would never fight the Gypsy King," and announced that he was looking for a new opponent.

Fury and Joshua have already signed individual contracts for the fight but negotiations have stalled over the venue, with Joshua reportedly insisting it takes place in London, while other options including New York's Madison Square Garden are also being considered.

Fury loves an unnecessary trilogy doesn't he. In the rematch, he only out landed Usyk in one round.

[joshj909]

Oleksandr Usyk's camp say he's not Tyson Fury's 'back-up plan'

Tyson Fury's claim that he has turned his attention to a third fight with Oleksandr Usyk has been called rubbish by the Ukrainian's managers.

Negotiations are still ongoing for a heavyweight clash between Fury and Anthony Joshua in November, but Fury insists his fellow Briton is seeking ways to back out of the deal.

Fury has issued a series of messages on social media to Usyk, who beat him in May and December 2024, proposing the unbeaten 39-year-old steps in to turn their rivalry into a trilogy.

But in a statement to Sky Sports News, Usyk's manager, Sergey Lapin, said: "Usyk is not Tyson's back-up plan.

"If Fury needs an opponent, he should visit the Ready to Fight platform. They can help him find a worthy opponent there.

"Oleksandr is always open to big challenges. But serious intentions are backed by a concrete offer, not statements in the press."

Usyk vacated his three heavyweight belts in June shortly after beating former kickboxer Rico Verhoeven in Cairo. But he has made no indication of retirement.

Fury insisted Sunday that he had given up on facing Joshua, who "would never fight the Gypsy King," and announced that he was looking for a new opponent.

Fury and Joshua have already signed individual contracts for the fight but negotiations have stalled over the venue, with Joshua reportedly insisting it takes place in London, while other options including New York's Madison Square Garden are also being considered.

Fury loves an unnecessary trilogy doesn't he. In the rematch, he only out landed Usyk in one round.

I'd honestly rather see Usyk rematch Verhoeven and Fury get another trilogy against 46 year old McDermott than watch a Usyk Vs Fury trilogy, and I certainly don't want to see either of those fights.

Fury should be calling out the champion that he shares a promoter with and doesn't have a scheduled opponent...

[Boxerbeetle]

Fat Dan saying might take place In Cardiff now. Maybe I’ll get a ticket after all…

BREAKING: Per sources involved, there is a strong chance #JoshuaFury will indeed take place in the UK at Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales, on Nov. 28. Capacity 80k+ & has retractable roof. Asked if Netflix was now OK with the move one source said, “I think they’re OK.” Whatever happens was told it would be resolved next couple of days. #boxing

[keithmoonhangover]

Fat Dan saying might take place In Cardiff now. Maybe I’ll get a ticket after all…

BREAKING: Per sources involved, there is a strong chance #JoshuaFury will indeed take place in the UK at Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales, on Nov. 28. Capacity 80k+ & has retractable roof. Asked if Netflix was now OK with the move one source said, “I think they’re OK.” Whatever happens was told it would be resolved next couple of days. #boxing

If it happens in the UK, AJ deserves a lot of credit.

[coneye]

Yaaaaawwwwnnn , HONESTLY COULD'NT CARE LESS , all this hullabaloo , and bollocks , back and forth forth and back , Just, well too start with , made me pay a bit of attention , then the more attention i paid the more i came to relize its a complete piss take , two older EX champs getting a massive payday for a fight they should of had 8-10 years ago , but did'nt have the balls to take , now its just a money grab with the excuse i was past my best to be coming years later ,

[joshj909]

Fat Dan saying might take place In Cardiff now. Maybe I’ll get a ticket after all…

BREAKING: Per sources involved, there is a strong chance #JoshuaFury will indeed take place in the UK at Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales, on Nov. 28. Capacity 80k+ & has retractable roof. Asked if Netflix was now OK with the move one source said, “I think they’re OK.” Whatever happens was told it would be resolved next couple of days. #boxing

It will still be at silly o clock though I imagine

[KiwiRider]

Yaaaaawwwwnnn , HONESTLY COULD'NT CARE LESS , all this hullabaloo , and bollocks , back and forth forth and back , Just, well too start with , made me pay a bit of attention , then the more attention i paid the more i came to relize its a complete piss take , two older EX champs getting a massive payday for a fight they should of had 8-10 years ago , but did'nt have the balls to take , now its just a money grab with the excuse i was past my best to be coming years later ,

Ten long years. And they want our PPV money for their cash out.
Nope.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Fat Dan saying might take place In Cardiff now. Maybe I’ll get a ticket after all…

BREAKING: Per sources involved, there is a strong chance #JoshuaFury will indeed take place in the UK at Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales, on Nov. 28. Capacity 80k+ & has retractable roof. Asked if Netflix was now OK with the move one source said, “I think they’re OK.” Whatever happens was told it would be resolved next couple of days. #boxing

It will still be at silly o clock though I imagine

Yh to accommodate the US.

Probably the middle line.

Probably why it’s Cardiff with a roof.

No Wembley UK time, no USA American time.

So Cardiff, this ways it’s UK, but US time.

Sorted.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Yaaaaawwwwnnn , HONESTLY COULD'NT CARE LESS , all this hullabaloo , and bollocks , back and forth forth and back , Just, well too start with , made me pay a bit of attention , then the more attention i paid the more i came to relize its a complete piss take , two older EX champs getting a massive payday for a fight they should of had 8-10 years ago , but did'nt have the balls to take , now its just a money grab with the excuse i was past my best to be coming years later ,

Ten long years. And they want our PPV money for their cash out.
Nope.

Was gonna say.. it would defo be PPV for you wouldn’t it?

[KiwiRider]

Yaaaaawwwwnnn , HONESTLY COULD'NT CARE LESS , all this hullabaloo , and bollocks , back and forth forth and back , Just, well too start with , made me pay a bit of attention , then the more attention i paid the more i came to relize its a complete piss take , two older EX champs getting a massive payday for a fight they should of had 8-10 years ago , but did'nt have the balls to take , now its just a money grab with the excuse i was past my best to be coming years later ,

Ten long years. And they want our PPV money for their cash out.
Nope.

Was gonna say.. it would defo be PPV for you wouldn’t it?

I think there was some talk of a Netflix premium?
I don't have that subscription and even though it's not that expensive this fight isn't enough to tempt me to sign up.

[joshj909]

Fat Dan saying might take place In Cardiff now. Maybe I’ll get a ticket after all…

BREAKING: Per sources involved, there is a strong chance #JoshuaFury will indeed take place in the UK at Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales, on Nov. 28. Capacity 80k+ & has retractable roof. Asked if Netflix was now OK with the move one source said, “I think they’re OK.” Whatever happens was told it would be resolved next couple of days. #boxing

It will still be at silly o clock though I imagine

Yh to accommodate the US.

Probably the middle line.

Probably why it’s Cardiff with a roof.

No Wembley UK time, no USA American time.

So Cardiff, this ways it’s UK, but US time.

Sorted.

Still a nightmare for people attending and people watching at home if it's still going to be well past midnight for the main event. Obviously easy enough to watch at home at 1am but 3am is a slightly different story. Leaving Cardiff at that time will be a nightmare as the trains stop running well before that.

[Ruthless-RKO]

It will still be at silly o clock though I imagine

Yh to accommodate the US.

Probably the middle line.

Probably why it’s Cardiff with a roof.

No Wembley UK time, no USA American time.

So Cardiff, this ways it’s UK, but US time.

Sorted.

Still a nightmare for people attending and people watching at home if it's still going to be well past midnight for the main event. Obviously easy enough to watch at home at 1am but 3am is a slightly different story. Leaving Cardiff at that time will be a nightmare as the trains stop running well before that.

I’m sure the councils can accomodate or do something about that.

[Boxerbeetle]

Yh to accommodate the US.

Probably the middle line.

Probably why it’s Cardiff with a roof.

No Wembley UK time, no USA American time.

So Cardiff, this ways it’s UK, but US time.

Sorted.

Still a nightmare for people attending and people watching at home if it's still going to be well past midnight for the main event. Obviously easy enough to watch at home at 1am but 3am is a slightly different story. Leaving Cardiff at that time will be a nightmare as the trains stop running well before that.

I’m sure the councils can accomodate or do something about that.

Cardiff council are fvcking useless, I wouldn’t be relying on them to sort anything out.