Burnham has just committed electoral suicide!

[giacomino]

Reducing pension age to 65 would be a vote winner

Can you take a lesser pension earlier, like 60 or 62? In the US system, the full public pension is at 67 but you can start collecting anytime between 62-67, you just get 8% less per year you took it early. I started at 65 because of the lower cost-of-living here, but if I’d stayed in the US, I would have waited until 67

[Lenny Cravats]

It's not a benefit, benefits are for folk who have never worked, they have already paid into the system
Most of us have been paying into the system for 20, 30, even 40 years, yet we should want to have that taken away from us??
And then when we are too expensive, then it's assisted suicide!

They paid into a different system, though.

I'm paying into the system for them now. There's no chance mine, or my kids generation, get anywhere near what they have had... I've got a mortgage until I'm 71. fornicate knows what happens to me, and likely millions like me.
And my kids? They've got no fornicating chance.

You've been stiffed big time on your mortgage, mine was paid off 3 years ago and I'm only 43.

Aye. Bought first house at in 2013 for £178k, sold after 4 years for £198k and Bought second for £450k. Sold this year at £555,000.
Put down an £80k deposit on a house for £268k.

It's the divorce that fucked me, I reckon.

Needed the mortgage to be less than £950 a month. Hence the longer term.

[Coco]

Reducing pension age to 65 would be a vote winner

Can you take a lesser pension earlier, like 60 or 62? In the US system, the full public pension is at 67 but you can start collecting anytime between 62-67, you just get 8% less per year you took it early. I started at 65 because of the lower cost-of-living here, but if I’d stayed in the US, I would have waited until 67

Don't think so

[Nightmare Roy]

Reducing pension age to 65 would be a vote winner

Can you take a lesser pension earlier, like 60 or 62? In the US system, the full public pension is at 67 but you can start collecting anytime between 62-67, you just get 8% less per year you took it early. I started at 65 because of the lower cost-of-living here, but if I’d stayed in the US, I would have waited until 67

Don't think so

You can't but you can take it later and get more money, i know a guy who did it but died before he ever got any.

[Coco]

Can you take a lesser pension earlier, like 60 or 62? In the US system, the full public pension is at 67 but you can start collecting anytime between 62-67, you just get 8% less per year you took it early. I started at 65 because of the lower cost-of-living here, but if I’d stayed in the US, I would have waited until 67

Don't think so

You can't but you can take it later and get more money, i know a guy who did it but died before he ever got any.

And I'm sure you can take private pensions early, at a reduced rate

[Boxerbeetle]

Don't think so

You can't but you can take it later and get more money, i know a guy who did it but died before he ever got any.

And I'm sure you can take private pensions early, at a reduced rate

You can take 25% as a tax-free lump sum when you reach 55 (although think that’s increasing to 57 soon). That’s definitely my plan.

[Nightmare Roy]

You can't but you can take it later and get more money, i know a guy who did it but died before he ever got any.

And I'm sure you can take private pensions early, at a reduced rate

You can take 25% as a tax-free lump sum when you reach 55 (although think that’s increasing to 57 soon). That’s definitely my plan.

Yep that's right

[SticknMove]

I wouldn’t say it’s penalising them at all, they still have a far far better life than someone relying on the state pension, and often spend a lot of time abroad in one of their holiday homes and are getting additional income from their UK rental property (also both mortgage free).

Why are we giving benefits to people who clearly don’t need them? Should we start giving job seekers allowance to people on £60k salary per year?

Just a silly sweeping generalisation. People paid their national insurance contributions to finance the NHS and statutory basic pension at the outset of their working lives many decades ago when our country was very different. People putting into the system after 40 to 50 years of working 40+ hours a week, paying tax and NICs, are getting something back for their service.

I have used the NHS 4 times in my lifetime. I didn’t pay into a system to finance migrants from the Third World who seem to have priority over generational citizens.

So I will be taking that pension, will never need it, and pass it on to my kids along with everything else that the ‘state’ will conspire to steal to finance their excessive waste.

You say it’s a “sweeping generalisation” and then immediately confirm you’re in the exact same position as the people I talk about in my post

But thanks for confirming you want state handouts for no reason

Confirm what?

You made a sweeping generalisation that people who grafted their whole lives and paid into the system, taking very little out, live far better lives are taking from the state. They are getting what they are statutorily entitled to.

I would happily forego my statutory entitlement if I thought this country was run properly with their priorities in order.

It isn’t and hasn’t for far too long.

[banjo]

The thing is, the money we pay in now isn't going into a pot with our name on it, it's paying for the current pensioners, so when we're retired, the workers are paying our state pensions.

[IRONFIST]

The Burnham Bungs are coming back to bite Burnham, freebies from the UAE, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c83vq9vpwwr1o More is being discovered every day...

[Nightmare Roy]

The Burnham Bungs are coming back to bite Burnham, freebies from the UAE, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c83vq9vpwwr1o More is being discovered every day...

he had two dinners which he declared, imagine if they gave him £5m cash to do what ever he wanted with? To spend on ferraris or security and he didn’t mention it.

[IRONFIST]

The Burnham Bungs are coming back to bite Burnham, freebies from the UAE, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c83vq9vpwwr1o More is being discovered every day...

he had two dinners which he declared, imagine if they gave him £5m cash to do what ever he wanted with? To spend on ferraris or security and he didn’t mention it.

Seems old Bung'em Burnham has been telling yet more porkies, he's met the Man Shifty bosses at least six times...

[Nightmare Roy]

The Burnham Bungs are coming back to bite Burnham, freebies from the UAE, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c83vq9vpwwr1o More is being discovered every day...

he had two dinners which he declared, imagine if they gave him £5m cash to do what ever he wanted with? To spend on ferraris or security and he didn’t mention it.

Seems old Bung'em Burnham has been telling yet more porkies, he's met the Man Shifty bosses at least six times...

Did he trouser £5m?

[IRONFIST]

he had two dinners which he declared, imagine if they gave him £5m cash to do what ever he wanted with? To spend on ferraris or security and he didn’t mention it.

Seems old Bung'em Burnham has been telling yet more porkies, he's met the Man Shifty bosses at least six times...

Did he trouser £5m?

Keep 'em peeled, as the great Shaw Taylor used to say. A £55 million pound bung to his UAE mates and you don't expect him to trouser a few in return, just like his missus getting those dodgy EV contracts..., he's a lazy thieving scouse so and so as Alf Garnett would say.

[IRONFIST]

I see old Kinnock's son on Question Time didn't like when that audience member rightly called out him and his family making a fortune from the EU gravy train, (at UK taxpayers expense.)

[IRONFIST]

The Burnham Bungs to be investigated https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ck5yn70v2yp8o

[banjo]

In positive news he has given the go ahead to drill for gas.

[IRONFIST]

In positive news he has given the go ahead to drill for gas.

Well positive but too little too late, energy bills will still be through the roof thanks to Ed Millipede and Liebour stifling production, Burnham will also now have Pothead Polanski and the Nut Zero loons targetting him, saw protests on the news earlier...

[Ricky]

In positive news he has given the go ahead to drill for gas.

But maybe it means the Palestinian crowds will go back to glueing themselves to the roads?

[IRONFIST]

In positive news he has given the go ahead to drill for gas.

But maybe it means the Palestinian crowds will go back to glueing themselves to the roads?

I used to enjoy seeing the public chuck them out the way and lorries pushing through them...

[banjo]

In positive news he has given the go ahead to drill for gas.

But maybe it means the Palestinian crowds will go back to glueing themselves to the roads?

I used to enjoy seeing the public chuck them out the way and lorries pushing through them...

Don't forget the bloke in Panama who shot a couple of them.

[IRONFIST]

But maybe it means the Palestinian crowds will go back to glueing themselves to the roads?

I used to enjoy seeing the public chuck them out the way and lorries pushing through them...

Don't forget the bloke in Panama who shot a couple of them.

Did he? Don't think I've heard of that one

[IRONFIST]

Now turns out Liebour will not be drilling for oil, to please the Just Stop Oil loons

[IRONFIST]

Burnham the berk to appear on Gogglebox, whilst the country burns he's on the fiddle.

[Nightmare Roy]

Burnham the berk to appear on Gogglebox, whilst the country burns he's on the fiddle.

Is the country on fire now?