Islam. A growing problem? What can or should be done?

[Perkin Warbeck]

No you don't. Otherwise you would have displayed videos from both sides. I started displaying videos from the other side to balance it out because no one else was.

If some wealthy powerful country killed 80,000 impoverished Jews including 22,000 children and completely destroyed all their homes putting them in horrible miserable conditions, I would want to display videos of the Jewish suffering, to express my outrage at such evil acts.

But this is 2026, not 1943 in Warsaw. Now, the poor people of Gaza are the victims.

The videos you posted were from the Kach group. They are the far-right group who want to kill all the Palestinians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kach

[gilgamesh]

Why is everyone arguing over who's side you oughta be on in this?

The answer is nobody's side. F*ck Israel. F*ck Palestine.

These countries want a never ending Holy War. Good for them. Let em have it.

[greg]

Why is everyone arguing over who's side you oughta be on in this?

The answer is nobody's side. F*ck Israel. F*ck Palestine.

These countries want a never ending Holy War. Good for them. Let em have it.

Looks like both sides are working hard to secure a cozy spot in the afterlife...

[giacomino]

Why is everyone arguing over who's side you oughta be on in this?

The answer is nobody's side. F*ck Israel. F*ck Palestine.

These countries want a never ending Holy War. Good for them. Let em have it.

I am old enough to remember the headlines in 1972 about Middle East War. I remember rolling my eyes when Jimmy Carter got his “peace agreement.” It does seem to be never ending and I don’t expect anything to change in my lifetime

[Perkin Warbeck]

Events of the past couple of years have me thinking peace in the Middle East is not only impossible in my own lifetime (which may not be long since I am old), but unlikely in the 21st century.

When Bill Clinton was president of the USA and Yitzhak Rabin was Prime Minister of Israel, there was some hope for peace, but there is none when men like Trump and Netanyahu are in power. And with Sunni extremists like the Wahhabi splinter Al Qaeda group in power in Syria and militants like Hamas having power in Palestine, there will be future wars, even after the current ones have ended.

[gilgamesh]

Events of the past couple of years have me thinking peace in the Middle East is not only impossible in my own lifetime (which may not be long since I am old), but unlikely in the 21st century.

When Bill Clinton was president of the USA and Yitzhak Rabin was Prime Minister of Israel, there was some hope for peace, but there is none when men like Trump and Netanyahu are in power. And with Sunni extremists like the Wahhabi splinter Al Qaeda group in power in Syria and militants like Hamas having power in Palestine, there will be future wars, even after the current ones have ended.

There'll always be Wars over there because War is how you take power and everyone is power hungry over there. All these groups like Hamas or Al Queda or whatever they call 'em next week see unstable Countries that they can take over and rape and pillage as they please once they do, and Israeli's see people that will never stop trying to kill them so now they've decided that they'll do the same.

I honestly suspect even if Muslims took over Britain and America, if they weren't allowed to just rape Women and children as they pleased then there'd still be these Terrorist groups like Hamas around like "Ahhhhh we can't rape? This isn't a free country!!! Why are women respected. We must take down the Government HA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA"

[Baby Face Finster]

Some Muslims think their Prophet led the most exemplary life so they therefore defend and rationalize the fact that he had sex with a 9 year old kid. That's how brainwashed some of these people are that they even defend paedophilia. Never mind that their Prophet also killed a good many prisoners. What a role model!

[Perkin Warbeck]

Some Muslims think their Prophet led the most exemplary life so they therefore defend and rationalize the fact that he had sex with a 9 year old kid. That's how brainwashed some of these people are that they even defend paedophilia. Never mind that their Prophet also killed a good many prisoners. What a role model!

Most Sunni Muslims, especially in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan, do believe in the Hadith about Mohammad marrying a child and consummating the marriage when she was age 9.

And yes, Mohammad killed prisoners - he was a warlord, not peaceful and loving like Jesus. Hannibal, Richard I, Saladin, Tamerlane, and many other historical leaders killed prisoners.

According to the Torah, Lot (Abraham's nephew) had sex with his daughters.

Under Joshua’s leadership, during the conquest of Canaan, Israel is described as killing all the inhabitants of multiple towns and cities, often leaving “no survivors” or “nothing that breathed”:

Jericho (Joshua 6:21): They “devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys” (only Rahab’s household was spared).⁠

Ai (Joshua 8:25–26): All the people of Ai (about 12,000 men and women) were killed; the city was burned.⁠

Southern cities (Joshua 10): Makkedah, Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron, Debir, and others. The text repeatedly states that Joshua and Israel “left no survivors,” “totally destroyed everyone in it,” and put them to the sword. Joshua 10:40 summarizes: “He left no survivors. He totally destroyed all who breathed, just as the Lord, the God of Israel, had commanded.”⁠

Hazor and northern cities (Joshua 11): Everyone in Hazor was put to the sword with “no one left who breathed”; the city was burned. Similar treatment is described for other royal cities.⁠

These actions are framed as carrying out commands given through Moses (Deuteronomy 7:1–2; 20:16–17) against the listed Canaanite peoples.

Cities of Sihon (king of Heshbon) and related Amorite towns (Deuteronomy 2:34; Numbers 21): “We captured all his cities at that time and devoted to destruction every city, men, women, and children. We left no survivors.” Similar language is used for Og’s territory (Deuteronomy 3:6).⁠

Midianites (Numbers 31): The Israelites killed the men; later, on Moses’ order, they also killed the boys and the women who had known a man, while sparing the virgin girls.

God (supposedly) commanded Saul through Samuel to attack the Amalekites and “totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys” (1 Samuel 15:2–3). Saul killed most of the population but spared King Agag and the best livestock, which the narrative treats as disobedience.⁠

Simeon and Levi (Genesis 34:25): They killed all the males of the city of Shechem (while the men were recovering from circumcision).

[Perkin Warbeck]

And in more recent times:

During the 1947–1949 Palestine war (the civil war phase followed by the Arab-Israeli War, known to Palestinians as the Nakba), these forces captured and depopulated roughly 400–500 Palestinian Arab towns and villages. In a substantial number of cases, this involved the killing of many or most of the civilians who remained - including women and children in several documented incidents.

Israeli historians (e.g., Benny Morris) and archival research have documented dozens of such incidents involving indiscriminate killing of non-combatants, execution of prisoners, or house-to-house violence once villages were overrun. Palestinian researchers (e.g., Saleh Abdel Jawad) list higher numbers of sites with civilian killings. Not every depopulated village involved the total slaughter of all residents—many people fled in advance, were expelled after capture, or left amid the fighting—but the pattern of violence and deliberate clearance is well-established in the historical record from both Israeli and Arab sources.⁠

Deir Yassin (9 April 1948, near Jerusalem): Irgun and Lehi forces (with Haganah support) attacked the village. Estimates of deaths range from about 100–140 (including women and children); many were shot in houses or after surrender, with reports of executions and other atrocities. This event is widely cited as a catalyst that accelerated Palestinian flight elsewhere. (source: ⁠Wikipedia)

Later IDF operations (after Israel’s declaration of independence):

During campaigns such as Operation Hiram (northern Galilee) and Operation Yoav (south), IDF units committed multiple massacres. Examples include:
Safsaf: Dozens of men tied and shot into a pit; reports of rapes.
Saliha: 60–80 people killed by blowing up a building where they had sheltered.
Al-Dawayima: Estimates of 80–100+ (some higher) men, women, and children killed, including in a mosque and cave.
Eilabun
Lydda
Tantura Israeli historian Ilan Pappé wrote that in addition to executions, a number of villagers were killed in "a killing spree inside the houses and in the streets. Females, including girls as young as 14, were reportedly treated at a Nablus hospital, having been raped during the massacre." Soldiers involved in the massacre were known to routinely brag about the heinous methods they deployed during their pillage. Weapons such as flamethrowers were used against the villagers.
(source: Wikipedia)

[Ricky]

[damage]

Some Muslims think their Prophet led the most exemplary life so they therefore defend and rationalize the fact that he had sex with a 9 year old kid. That's how brainwashed some of these people are that they even defend paedophilia. Never mind that their Prophet also killed a good many prisoners. What a role model!

Most Sunni Muslims, especially in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan, do believe in the Hadith about Mohammad marrying a child and consummating the marriage when she was age 9.

And yes, Mohammad killed prisoners - he was a warlord, not peaceful and loving like Jesus. Hannibal, Richard I, Saladin, Tamerlane, and many other historical leaders killed prisoners.

According to the Torah, Lot (Abraham's nephew) had sex with his daughters.

Under Joshua’s leadership, during the conquest of Canaan, Israel is described as killing all the inhabitants of multiple towns and cities, often leaving “no survivors” or “nothing that breathed”:

Jericho (Joshua 6:21): They “devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys” (only Rahab’s household was spared).⁠

Ai (Joshua 8:25–26): All the people of Ai (about 12,000 men and women) were killed; the city was burned.⁠

Southern cities (Joshua 10): Makkedah, Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron, Debir, and others. The text repeatedly states that Joshua and Israel “left no survivors,” “totally destroyed everyone in it,” and put them to the sword. Joshua 10:40 summarizes: “He left no survivors. He totally destroyed all who breathed, just as the Lord, the God of Israel, had commanded.”⁠

Hazor and northern cities (Joshua 11): Everyone in Hazor was put to the sword with “no one left who breathed”; the city was burned. Similar treatment is described for other royal cities.⁠

These actions are framed as carrying out commands given through Moses (Deuteronomy 7:1–2; 20:16–17) against the listed Canaanite peoples.

Cities of Sihon (king of Heshbon) and related Amorite towns (Deuteronomy 2:34; Numbers 21): “We captured all his cities at that time and devoted to destruction every city, men, women, and children. We left no survivors.” Similar language is used for Og’s territory (Deuteronomy 3:6).⁠

Midianites (Numbers 31): The Israelites killed the men; later, on Moses’ order, they also killed the boys and the women who had known a man, while sparing the virgin girls.

God (supposedly) commanded Saul through Samuel to attack the Amalekites and “totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys” (1 Samuel 15:2–3). Saul killed most of the population but spared King Agag and the best livestock, which the narrative treats as disobedience.⁠

Simeon and Levi (Genesis 34:25): They killed all the males of the city of Shechem (while the men were recovering from circumcision).

Just admit you hate Jews!

[evrenb]

I know there will never ever be peace while Israel is where it is.

[NazNaci1]

Just admit you hate Jews!

No Brain Damaged.

He hates apartheid, racist, genocide supporting Zionist nutters, as I do.

All that 'You hate Jews' crap has ended. No one believes that sh*t anymore, except brain dead people like you (and I am pretty sure I know the reasons why, as your past equally brain dead posts indicate).

That bullsh*t troupe is over.

[SticknMove]

Just admit you hate Jews!

No Brain Damaged.

He hates apartheid, racist, genocide supporting Zionist nutters, as I do.

All that 'You hate Jews' crap has ended. No one believes that sh*t anymore, except brain dead people like you (and I am pretty sure I know the reasons why, as your past equally brain dead posts indicate).

That bullsh*t troupe is over.

What apartheid? What racism? What genocide?

The projection from the islamo-socialists is supported by a radical progressive’ insane group of ideologies that infected young people’s minds. Exactly as Bezmenov suggested when he explained how subversion works.

There are no Jews in Gaza. If there were they would be unalived very quickly. Was the October 7th incursion/pogrom a action of genocidal intent (especially given that Hamas said they would do it again and again)?

Why are all the states around Israel subject to the totalitarian diktaks and submission of Islam? Those nations are more apartheid given their history.

The only racism is toward a non-colonising people to have a homeland for their relatively small worldwide population. A state that is democratic, assimilates Arabs, has a vibrant LBGTQ community (cough).

An asymmetric war against an Islamist organisation backed up by the mullahs in Iran doesn’t care about the Palestinian ‘struggle’. They care less about the loss of any woman or child other than the propaganda it will generate with the ‘hand wringing’ in the West.

Billions upon billions have been given to Hamas over their ‘democratic’ tenure. What did they do with it. Build an extraordinary network of tunnels under schools and hospitals in which to attack Israel, whilst their leaders sit safely in Qatar.

[NazNaci1]

Just admit you hate Jews!

No Brain Damaged.

He hates apartheid, racist, genocide supporting Zionist nutters, as I do.

All that 'You hate Jews' crap has ended. No one believes that sh*t anymore, except brain dead people like you (and I am pretty sure I know the reasons why, as your past equally brain dead posts indicate).

That bullsh*t troupe is over.

What apartheid? What racism? What genocide?

The projection from the islamo-socialists is supported by a radical progressive’ insane group of ideologies that infected young people’s minds. Exactly as Bezmenov suggested when he explained how subversion works.

There are no Jews in Gaza. If there were they would be unalived very quickly. Was the October 7th incursion/pogrom a action of genocidal intent (especially given that Hamas said they would do it again and again)?

Why are all the states around Israel subject to the totalitarian diktaks and submission of Islam? Those nations are more apartheid given their history.

The only racism is toward a non-colonising people to have a homeland for their relatively small worldwide population. A state that is democratic, assimilates Arabs, has a vibrant LBGTQ community (cough).

An asymmetric war against an Islamist organisation backed up by the mullahs in Iran doesn’t care about the Palestinian ‘struggle’. They care less about the loss of any woman or child other than the propaganda it will generate with the ‘hand wringing’ in the West.

Billions upon billions have been given to Hamas over their ‘democratic’ tenure. What did they do with it. Build an extraordinary network of tunnels under schools and hospitals in which to attack Israel.

Your disingenuous attempts at misdirection and denials are always entertaining.

I treat them as such.

These points you think you make, I can and have refuted each and everyone on various threads in the past and I cannot bothered again.

You ignore history, you ignore the present and parrot the same, flawed corrupted nonsense. Too late. Its over. Billions, not millions know the truth and history will eventually record it as such.

There is no going back now as much as you hate that. That ship has sailed.

[SticknMove]

No Brain Damaged.

He hates apartheid, racist, genocide supporting Zionist nutters, as I do.

All that 'You hate Jews' crap has ended. No one believes that sh*t anymore, except brain dead people like you (and I am pretty sure I know the reasons why, as your past equally brain dead posts indicate).

That bullsh*t troupe is over.

What apartheid? What racism? What genocide?

The projection from the islamo-socialists is supported by a radical progressive’ insane group of ideologies that infected young people’s minds. Exactly as Bezmenov suggested when he explained how subversion works.

There are no Jews in Gaza. If there were they would be unalived very quickly. Was the October 7th incursion/pogrom a action of genocidal intent (especially given that Hamas said they would do it again and again)?

Why are all the states around Israel subject to the totalitarian diktaks and submission of Islam? Those nations are more apartheid given their history.

The only racism is toward a non-colonising people to have a homeland for their relatively small worldwide population. A state that is democratic, assimilates Arabs, has a vibrant LBGTQ community (cough).

An asymmetric war against an Islamist organisation backed up by the mullahs in Iran doesn’t care about the Palestinian ‘struggle’. They care less about the loss of any woman or child other than the propaganda it will generate with the ‘hand wringing’ in the West.

Billions upon billions have been given to Hamas over their ‘democratic’ tenure. What did they do with it. Build an extraordinary network of tunnels under schools and hospitals in which to attack Israel.

Your disingenuous attempts at misdirection and denials are always entertaining.

I treat them as such.

These points you think you make, I can and have refuted each and everyone on various threads in the past and I cannot bothered again.

You ignore history, you ignore the present and parrot the same, flawed corrupted nonsense. Too late. Its over. Billions, not millions know the truth and history will eventually record it as such.

There is no going back now as much as you hate that. That ship has sailed.

Spoken in the convinced wordy vibe articulated vernacular. Well done.

[NazNaci1]

What apartheid? What racism? What genocide?

The projection from the islamo-socialists is supported by a radical progressive’ insane group of ideologies that infected young people’s minds. Exactly as Bezmenov suggested when he explained how subversion works.

There are no Jews in Gaza. If there were they would be unalived very quickly. Was the October 7th incursion/pogrom a action of genocidal intent (especially given that Hamas said they would do it again and again)?

Why are all the states around Israel subject to the totalitarian diktaks and submission of Islam? Those nations are more apartheid given their history.

The only racism is toward a non-colonising people to have a homeland for their relatively small worldwide population. A state that is democratic, assimilates Arabs, has a vibrant LBGTQ community (cough).

An asymmetric war against an Islamist organisation backed up by the mullahs in Iran doesn’t care about the Palestinian ‘struggle’. They care less about the loss of any woman or child other than the propaganda it will generate with the ‘hand wringing’ in the West.

Billions upon billions have been given to Hamas over their ‘democratic’ tenure. What did they do with it. Build an extraordinary network of tunnels under schools and hospitals in which to attack Israel.

Your disingenuous attempts at misdirection and denials are always entertaining.

I treat them as such.

These points you think you make, I can and have refuted each and everyone on various threads in the past and I cannot bothered again.

You ignore history, you ignore the present and parrot the same, flawed corrupted nonsense. Too late. Its over. Billions, not millions know the truth and history will eventually record it as such.

There is no going back now as much as you hate that. That ship has sailed.

Spoken in the convinced wordy vibe articulated vernacular. Well done.

As opposed to what? A tone of confused desperation, swimming against the tide of reality.

As I said, what you say changes nothing. The majority of population now know and that is a reality you can never change.

Stay in your space. There you are 'safe' and 'validated'

It's over.

[SticknMove]

Your disingenuous attempts at misdirection and denials are always entertaining.

I treat them as such.

These points you think you make, I can and have refuted each and everyone on various threads in the past and I cannot bothered again.

You ignore history, you ignore the present and parrot the same, flawed corrupted nonsense. Too late. Its over. Billions, not millions know the truth and history will eventually record it as such.

There is no going back now as much as you hate that. That ship has sailed.

Spoken in the convinced wordy vibe articulated vernacular. Well done.

As opposed to what? A tone of confused desperation, swimming against the tide of reality.

As I said, what you say changes nothing. The majority of population now know and that is a reality you can never change.

Stay in your space. There you are 'safe' and 'validated'

It's over.

What reality are you talking about? A post Modern world where there no objective truth.

Are you an anarcho-communist?

You got a nose ring and a multicoloured hair rinse?

[NazNaci1]

No. I’m not an anarcho-communist.

You asked what reality I mean. The reality that civilians’ deaths, displacement, starvation and destruction are not made acceptable by pointing at Hamas, Iran, or the failures of other states.

I don’t need to accept a label from you to say that; and I’m not going to keep trading slogans with you.

[SticknMove]

No. I’m not an anarcho-communist.

You asked what reality I mean. The reality that civilians’ deaths, displacement, starvation and destruction are not made acceptable by pointing at Hamas, Iran, or the failures of other states.

I don’t need to accept a label from you to say that; and I’m not going to keep trading slogans with you.

There have been civilian deaths, controlled migrations from failed states, starvation and destruction throughout our history and the history of human existence.

But you, the sixth form student, have the answer like any other sixth form student that came before and decide it’s over. Like I say well done. You have been well indoctrinated.

[NazNaci1]

Yes, suffering has existed throughout history. That has never been an argument for accepting it when it is happening now.

You can keep trying to make this about me. I’ll leave you to it.

[SticknMove]

Yes, suffering has existed throughout history. That has never been an argument for accepting it when it is happening now.

You can keep trying to make this about me. I’ll leave you to it.

Human suffering will always exist. More likely to be more real in Islamic countries than the virtual signalling attention seeking bollocks in the west.

[NazNaci1]

Ok buddy.

[SticknMove]

Ok buddy.

No problem pal.

Shall we open up the sacrosanct nature of Islam? And the attempted sacrosanct nature of Critical Theory along Race, Feminism, Sexuality, Social justice, Trans, Queer and onto Third Worldism?

[Tony1244]

Ok buddy.

No problem pal.

Shall we open up the sacrosanct nature of Islam? And the attempted sacrosanct nature of Critical Theory along Race, Feminism, Sexuality, Social justice, Trans, Queer and onto Third Worldism?

I just looked up how any Muslim countries there are. There are about 50 countries that have a Muslim population of 50% or more. If you want to live in any of them you are verifiably insane.