Trinidad Calls Out Calzaghe/JC-Kessler negotiations begin

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 16 Oct 2006, 12:13

Calzaghe-Kessler negotiations have started for an HBO date next year. Live HBO, that is.

The main three are 1) Kessler, 2) Hopkins, 3) Taylor. I have a feeling 2 is retired and 3 has his hands full with Wright!

Trinidad expressed interest in a fight, also.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 16 Oct 2006, 12:45

Whats the link for Trinidad wanting Calazage? Would be interesting although trinidad would look tiny next too Calazage.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 16 Oct 2006, 12:48

It may have been entertaning pre-Hopkins but i wouldn't want to see a ring rusty, bloated version of Trinidad rumbling with Calzaghe...no thanks. Calzaghe V Kessler is the only fight that interests me at the moment and i am glad HBO are interested too, casting their net wider than an exclusive American based output.

pasty_spud · Post by **pasty_spud** » 17 Oct 2006, 11:03

i vote trinidad

well all know what FW/JC are like for taking the easy option

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 17 Oct 2006, 11:16

Yep. If Titos serious, allegedly will probably bite his hand off.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 Oct 2006, 16:15

Calzaghe would destroy Tito, no question.

Lets hope Calzaghe v Kessler happens on HBO. Or I'd settle for Calzaghe v Hopkins.

Taki... · Post by **Taki...** » 17 Oct 2006, 17:38

I think Hopkins is a tougher fight than Kessler. Either fight would be great though.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 Oct 2006, 17:42

Lets hope they get made, and no more low key fights from here on in.

vargas · Post by **vargas** » 17 Oct 2006, 17:58

No way he should fight Trinidad. Both Winky Wright and Hopkins schooled him, so obviously Calzaghe should be fighting one of those two. Tito's name would look good on Joe's record, but a win over Kessler would gain him so much more credibility.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 17 Oct 2006, 18:38

vargas wrote:No way he should fight Trinidad. Both Winky Wright and Hopkins schooled him, so obviously Calzaghe should be fighting one of those two. Tito's name would look good on Joe's record, but a win over Kessler would gain him so much more credibility.

Blame Larkin, he's filling Warren's head with all this tripe, particularly the Tito bit. Everyone - from Warren to Larkin & Sugar Ray - are whispering "America, America, Hopkins, Tarver, Johnson" in his ear every time. If Kessler gets overlooked I'll be sickened.

Calzaghe should go to America when he decides to make a mark on light heavyweight. No one's going to demand he fights over there after beating Bika on HBO B.A.D. Reason he was on B.A.D is because they wouldn't approve his opponent but still maybe want a piece of him.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 18 Oct 2006, 08:01

I still think Glen Johnson for the interim IBF Light Heavy title is a possibility.

Woods injured, Johnson appears to have a legitimate case for an immediate rematch. The IBF going down the interim route more and more (Julio Diaz is the interim champion).

Not sure I would be that pleased, but I can definately see it happening.

JC · Post by JC » 18 Oct 2006, 08:09

Kessler is the only fight I want to see, why anyone wouid spend 9 years making 20 odd defences of the WBO belt and then not want to take the opportunity to unify all the titles is beyond me.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 18 Oct 2006, 08:11

Do the IBF have interim titles? I don't recall any interim IBF title fights, then again my memory is not what it once was!

glahn · Post by **glahn** » 18 Oct 2006, 12:16

I also want to see him fight Kessler, but I have to laugh at people who accuse Joe of "ducking" him in order to fight Hopkins, as though Kessler is the harder fight.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 18 Oct 2006, 12:18

nickd wrote:Do the IBF have interim titles? I don't recall any interim IBF title fights, then again my memory is not what it once was!

Yep, Julio Diaz is the current interim champion at Lightweight.

Sharmba Mitchell was the interim champion before Tszyu bashed him around for a second time. Stewart vs Mitchell was for the interim title.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 18 Oct 2006, 12:23

glahn wrote:I also want to see him fight Kessler, but I have to laugh at people who accuse Joe of "ducking" him in order to fight Kessler, as though Kessler is the harder fight.

what's so funny about it? Kessler is a young, strong and hungry fighter in his prime. Glen is an old warhorse with more miles on the clock than the space shuttle. Sure, Glen's a good technical fighter, but he's definetly not what you would call fresh, and has already shown he can be beaten at LHW. I think Joe would have a hard time with Glen, and might even Favour Johnson to win, but Kessler could prove to be every bit as hard, and in terms of legacy is the more important win than a belt hopping exericse.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 18 Oct 2006, 12:58

Come on Kessler is a far better opponent than Glen Johnson. In fact Kessler would beat Johnson easily.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 18 Oct 2006, 13:06

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
glahn wrote:I also want to see him fight Kessler, but I have to laugh at people who accuse Joe of "ducking" him in order to fight Kessler, as though Kessler is the harder fight.
what's so funny about it? Kessler is a young, strong and hungry fighter in his prime. Glen is an old warhorse with more miles on the clock than the space shuttle. Sure, Glen's a good technical fighter, but he's definetly not what you would call fresh, and has already shown he can be beaten at LHW. I think Joe would have a hard time with Glen, and might even Favour Johnson to win, but Kessler could prove to be every bit as hard, and in terms of legacy is the more important win than a belt hopping exericse.

Fighting Glen isn't even about belt hopping...it's taking on a guy who's on the downswing (yet again...Mitchell, Eubank, Brewer) and claiming it to be the biggest fight of his career. Glen I feel beat Woods again, but even so, Clinton wouldn't even compete with Adamek, Erdei, Briggs, Dawson or Tarver at this point.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 18 Oct 2006, 13:16

Woods could beat Tarver, I agree with the rest you listed though I wouldn't fancy Woods' chances much against them.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 18 Oct 2006, 13:30

Wouldn't "compete" is way overtop.

He would beat Tarver & Briggs. Dawson is still unproven.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 18 Oct 2006, 13:38

ITV & FW have an article on their site about Cal-Kess

They also have a headline. "Wright gets Reid" Soon as I seen it I was stunned, but ofcourse it's Nigel V Gary

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 18 Oct 2006, 13:51

lvlarc_uk wrote:Wouldn't "compete" is way overtop.

He would beat Tarver & Briggs. Dawson is still unproven.

He wouldn't beat Briggs, Briggs brings similar things, but is younger and just better. That would be the best fight of the bunch. Dawson would just put on a boxing lesson, just like RJJ did without the flair and the TKO.

glahn · Post by **glahn** » 18 Oct 2006, 13:52

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
glahn wrote:I also want to see him fight Kessler, but I have to laugh at people who accuse Joe of "ducking" him in order to fight Kessler, as though Kessler is the harder fight.
what's so funny about it? Kessler is a young, strong and hungry fighter in his prime. Glen is an old warhorse with more miles on the clock than the space shuttle. Sure, Glen's a good technical fighter, but he's definetly not what you would call fresh, and has already shown he can be beaten at LHW. I think Joe would have a hard time with Glen, and might even Favour Johnson to win, but Kessler could prove to be every bit as hard, and in terms of legacy is the more important win than a belt hopping exericse.

I meant Hopkins, not Johnson. I don't think anyone in their right mind would want to see Calzaghe against Johnson.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 18 Oct 2006, 14:07

glahn wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
glahn wrote:I also want to see him fight Kessler, but I have to laugh at people who accuse Joe of "ducking" him in order to fight Kessler, as though Kessler is the harder fight.
what's so funny about it? Kessler is a young, strong and hungry fighter in his prime. Glen is an old warhorse with more miles on the clock than the space shuttle. Sure, Glen's a good technical fighter, but he's definetly not what you would call fresh, and has already shown he can be beaten at LHW. I think Joe would have a hard time with Glen, and might even Favour Johnson to win, but Kessler could prove to be every bit as hard, and in terms of legacy is the more important win than a belt hopping exericse.

I meant Hopkins, not Johnson. I don't think anyone in their right mind would want to see Calzaghe against Johnson.

Apart from Johnson himself! He looked pretty shot to me against Woods last time. Very near the end of the road.

Calzaghe v Hopkins would be a great fight I'd still like to see that is the Kessler fight can't be made.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 18 Oct 2006, 14:12

nickd wrote:
glahn wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote: what's so funny about it? Kessler is a young, strong and hungry fighter in his prime. Glen is an old warhorse with more miles on the clock than the space shuttle. Sure, Glen's a good technical fighter, but he's definetly not what you would call fresh, and has already shown he can be beaten at LHW. I think Joe would have a hard time with Glen, and might even Favour Johnson to win, but Kessler could prove to be every bit as hard, and in terms of legacy is the more important win than a belt hopping exericse.
November 11th I understand the WBC is forcing a purse bid for Kessler/Andrade....he gets that out of the way, Mundine fights for the JR WBA belt, there is no reason for this fight no to come off.

I meant Hopkins, not Johnson. I don't think anyone in their right mind would want to see Calzaghe against Johnson.
Apart from Johnson himself! He looked pretty shot to me against Woods last time. Very near the end of the road.

Calzaghe v Hopkins would be a great fight I'd still like to see that is the Kessler fight can't be made.