Kessler-Andrade Purse Bids

Axe · Post by **Axe** » 20 Oct 2006, 12:35

viciousmaussa wrote:
Floyd wrote:
viciousmaussa wrote:Kessler was making plans to fight Andrade before he beat Beyer.
Kessler sparred with Andrade when he was in California. I dont think he has any worries about making this fight.
Was it Andrade who said, "He has an AWESOME jab"?

Yep. And Librado was out of shape to boot, so mentally he's going to have a bit of a hill to climb (as Kessler whooped him pretty good).

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 20 Oct 2006, 13:25

Max Molyneux wrote: I thought mandatories were supposed to be considered useless?

Plus it wasn't so long since he's fought his last mandatory even if it was Veit.

Does Stieglitz want the fight though?

What's the WBO mandatory got to do with the IBF mandatory

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 20 Oct 2006, 13:54

Mattyp151 wrote:Andrade is a lesser version of Jeff Lacy. A lot of pop, but limited skills. I'm sure if Mikkel has already sparred with him, he would've avoided that stipulation all together if he saw something in Andrade that worried him.

Maybe Lacy and Andrade are very good fighters who are just going to look poor vs the likes of Calzaghe and Kessler. I don't know. I've only seen one round of Andrade, but I was impressed. Maybe if I saw the Otis Grant fight I wouldn't like the man.

Personally, I never could stand Lacy and always used to laugh at my US colleagues who said he was the top super middle. I always used to reply with "No, he's garbage!" Until the Reid and the Pemberton fights, where he showed nice variety and body punching.

But I don't have that in built prejudice against Andrade. He did some subtle little things against the other Grant, Richard. & he does pack a real punch.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 20 Oct 2006, 18:07

Smit wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote: I thought mandatories were supposed to be considered useless?

Plus it wasn't so long since he's fought his last mandatory even if it was Veit.

Does Stieglitz want the fight though?
What's the WBO mandatory got to do with the IBF mandatory

Well when you have the No 1 spot that doesn't usually make you mandatory does it?

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 23 Oct 2006, 06:13

Max Molyneux wrote:
Smit wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote: I thought mandatories were supposed to be considered useless?

Plus it wasn't so long since he's fought his last mandatory even if it was Veit.

Does Stieglitz want the fight though?
What's the WBO mandatory got to do with the IBF mandatory
Well when you have the No 1 spot that doesn't usually make you mandatory does it?

No but the fact you said that "Plus it wasn't so long since he's fought his last mandatory even if it was Veit." is completely irrelevant to any IBF mandatory

Maxime · Post by **Maxime** » 23 Oct 2006, 06:37

Not that I want to side with the WBC on this but.... the last WBC mandatory defense was Beyer-Green II back in march of 2005.

This mandatory defense has been on hold for too long.

Andrade accepted to step aside for the Kessler-Beyer fight but now it's time for him to get his shot.

Beside, Kessler-Andrade on HBO in Febuary/March could help make Calzaghe-Kessler in june 2007.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 23 Oct 2006, 06:43

We all know that HBO like building stars. Probably makes sense for them to maybe showcase Calzaghe up at light heavy vs someone like Johnson. & have Kessler defending against Andrade, which is a solid matchup that they would doubtless approve.

This situation, with Calzaghe owing two mandatories and with HBO NO WAY IN HELL EVER approving them...makes me wonder. I see Joe dropping a title or maybe just moving up. If the HBO money is right.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 23 Oct 2006, 06:59

Smit wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:
Smit wrote: What's the WBO mandatory got to do with the IBF mandatory
Well when you have the No 1 spot that doesn't usually make you mandatory does it?
No but the fact you said that "Plus it wasn't so long since he's fought his last mandatory even if it was Veit." is completely irrelevant to any IBF mandatory

Yeah but how could this other guy on the WBO be Joe's mandatory since he;s fought no eliminators?

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 23 Oct 2006, 08:29

Max Molyneux wrote:
Smit wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote: Well when you have the No 1 spot that doesn't usually make you mandatory does it?
No but the fact you said that "Plus it wasn't so long since he's fought his last mandatory even if it was Veit." is completely irrelevant to any IBF mandatory
Yeah but how could this other guy on the WBO be Joe's mandatory since he;s fought no eliminators?

Tatevosyan stopped Calzaghe's mandatory (or maybe just #1) Markussen on the 14th Oct.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 23 Oct 2006, 10:38

Did Markussen fight an eliminator before that though?

fried bread · Post by **fried bread** » 23 Oct 2006, 10:53

Max Molyneux wrote:Did Markussen fight an eliminator before that though?

Don't know. The last mandatory was Mario Veit, because he held the interim crown. Markussen was probably next in line. He's not had any significant wins of recent

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 23 Oct 2006, 11:50

Ain't seen no eliminators on his record so Veit must of been the only mandatory for ages.