Current US Super Heavys

[B-FAT]

Which ones do you expect to do well as a pro?

[ABA Boxing]

Wilson is your best bet,

Although he just got stopped by Roberto Cammarelle (ITA) in the Worlds!

[Ambox]

I would say Wilson as well. He has greatly improved lately, and was successful until he ran into the much more experienced Cammarelle.

What would help the American boxers out a lot would be getting more experience, domestically and internationally...they don't seem to get in as many tournaments lately. Of course, this is also the first year after the Olympics, but some more continuity wouldn't hurt. Notice Warren at 51kg is the only returning Olympic boxer and he is also one of the two that has gone on to the medal round. He made it at a young age, which helps. To have the experience to medal in the Olympics usually means being older, and by then they don't want to hang around until the next Olympics and end up going pro. Melson was something of a surprise as he doesn't have a lot of experience (in total bouts) but did very well until he faced the Cuban. I think Melson was one of the older boxers.

[B-FAT]

what about Kauffman I have heard good things about him

[pound per pound]

The best potential is Isaiah Thomas, the 17 year old who won the world jr championships.

As for now, Wilson is likely the best. He won two matches at the senior world amateur championships, but was easily outclassed by Italy’s Camerelle.

[holeymoley99]

I would go with Alfred White,dropped a close 1 point decision to Wilson (18-17) at the U.S. Championships semis and is coming on strong. I would expect him to bring his punch with him.

[ogii3]

The best potential is Isaiah Thomas, the 17 year old who won the world jr championships.

As for now, Wilson is likely the best. He won two matches at the senior world amateur championships, but was easily outclassed by Italy’s Camerelle.

Right pick:))))

[locoxelbox]

Hopefully Isiah Thomas will be something. Mike Wilson was badly outclassed by Cammarelle, if he is the best out there the US heavys have really fallen behind.

[holeymoley99]

Wilson is solid but doesnt have a real amateur style with the brawl at all costs he employs. Cammarelle is an Olympic vet and was expected to beat Mike easily.

[Chauncy]

I fought Wilson 3 times as an amatuer, and he's good, and I'm sure got much better.
I hope he waits for 2008 to turn pro. I hear he wants to go pro, but Mike, a word of advice, WAIT. The pros arent all that cool.

[BigTex]

I'd say Eugene....

[locoxelbox]

Wilson is solid but doesnt have a real amateur style

It's not about the style. If they fought as pros Cammarelle would stop Wilson anyway. He looke scare in there.

[pound per pound]

I fought Wilson 3 times as an amatuer, and he's good, and I'm sure got much better.
I hope he waits for 2008 to turn pro. I hear he wants to go pro, but Mike, a word of advice, WAIT. The pros arent all that cool.

Interesting. What did you think of Wilson then? Mike must have been very young.

The best time too go pro is a mix of age and experience. If you will be under 26 before the next Olympics, maybe it’s a smart idea to remain an amateur and hone your skills for an Olympic box off before you turn professional. The pro's are not for everyone. Not all amateurs’ skills translate well into the professional ring. I think all top amateur need to be realistic of their chances before rolling the dice and turning pro. Most can get to 10-0, make some money and such, but to make the big $, you need to beat some good journeyman and gate keepers first, and then vault into the top ranks. It’s a three year process. Idealy, a promoter will give you a fair contract with a singing bonus. I suggest getting a seasoned manager He might take 30% of the cut, but he can help you get to the real money. Not getting a good manager is a mistake many fighters make early on.

USA boxing is at an all time low. Wilson might be the best heavy for now, but come 2008 he will have to fend off Thomas, unless Thomas goes for heavyweight, not super heavyweight.

I saw Greg Corbin once in the national golden gloves. He's a skilled big man. Probably more so than Wilson. He just lacks the killer instinct in the ring to be a real force, but vs international competition; I tend to believe Corbin is our best option due to his size and skills.

Should Wislon go pro now? Hard to say. Maybe ge should wait another year. If he Wilsonn hold his own vs Pro's in the gym, and has a back up plan in case boxing doesn't work out, why not!

[Chauncy]

I thought Mike was a very good amatuer, but that means nothing in the pros. I think Mike could hold his own as a pro, but he would have to change his style.
It was a long time ago when me and Mike fought, once in '98, once at the semifinals at national in '99, and at the end of '99.
He through very straight punches, and was smart, but had no power, and not much speed. He was only a kid then though, so maybe he has more now, I haven't seen him.
If I knew Mike better, I would tell him to wait for the Olympics, as he has the most potental of going in 2008. He is far more experienced than anybody else from the US, and sounds like he's the best of the bunch.
If I could go back, I wish I could have waited to turn pro and tried for the 2004 and 2008 Olympics, and maybe you guys could be saying I'm the best SH amatuer in the US??? Hate to look back, but I do wish I could still be an amatuer.

[Wales]

so what are the long term plans, youve had a helluva lot of fights for a 22yr old. Dont you want to try and settle down a little and move up the rankings to become a young contender? or are you happy with the travelling and busy schedule. You may have a tough tough fight coming up against the Russian by the way, platov is a bit of a banger, especially as your taking the fight only 2 weeks after your previous fight.

Good luck mind.

[Chauncy]

I plan on fighting in Febuary, as the Platov fight is a no go. My Febuary fight will be in New Zealand, and should be on television.
I plan on staying busy this year, because if I'm not ready for a fight with one of the big boys by the end of 2006, I'm going to retire. I'm will only be 23 and have enough time to make another profession a success.
I plan on fighting about 7 or 8 times this next year, and hope to travel in those fights, but some will have to be at home.

[holeymoley99]

Alfred scored his 5th first round ko in 7 pro fights last night. He has moved up to #143 already.

Johnnie White
Sex Male
Nationality US American
Alias Lethal
Birth Name Alfred Johnnie White
Global ID US-LA-312853
Federal ID LA071804
Hometown St. Martinsville, LA, USA
Rated at Heavyweight
World Rank 143 / 1091
Date of Birth 1984-06-26
Age 21
Stance Orthodox
Trainer Phil Daily
Manager Phil Daily
W 7 (6 ko's) | L 0 | D 0 | Total 7








2005-12-17 240 Gary Butler 240 12-27-0
Galliano Centroplex, Galliano, LA, USA W TKO 1 4

2005-11-26 Michael Hamilton 2-2-1
Paragon Casino, Marksville, LA, USA W MD 4 4
~ Referee: Russell Naquin | Judge: Bruce McDaniel 39-37 | Judge: Rick Exe 39-37 | Judge: Kenny Saintes 38-38 ~

2005-08-13 234 Charles Daughtry 199 9-34-2
Youth Center, Cut Off, LA, USA W KO 1 4

2005-06-17 225 Yul Witherspoon 231 1-1-0
Blackham Coliseum, Lafayette, LA, USA W TKO 2 4
~ Time: 2:14 | Referee: Bruce McDaniel | Judge: Kenny Saintes | Judge: Kenny Licata | Judge: Rick Exe ~

2005-06-02 236 Bradley Moss 267 0-0-0
Family Arena, St. Charles, MO, USA W TKO 1 4
~ Time: 0:36 | Referee: Mike England | Judge: Marty Bickle | Judge: Jerry Griffin | Judge: Chuck Zelsman ~

2005-05-14 237 Jermich Smith 274 0-0-0
Mississippi Coliseum, Jackson, MS, USA W TKO 1 4
~ Time: 2:00 | Judge: Richard Handy | Judge: Gerald Adams | Judge: Jamie Arrington ~

2005-04-30 237 Derrick Cotlong 249½ 0-0-0
Bayou Centroplex, Galliano, LA, USA W TKO 1 4
~ Time: 1:23 | Referee: Russell Naquin | Judge: Kenny Licata | Judge: Keith Thibodeaux | Judge: Sal Cerino ~





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[Justin]

Isiah Thomas is already the best hope of them all. He's already getting trained by the Kronk big boys and has them behind him... If he keeps his mind straight, he'll do big things both in the Amateur world and the pro world.

[Stephen]

I plan on fighting in Febuary, as the Platov fight is a no go. My Febuary fight will be in New Zealand, and should be on television.
I plan on staying busy this year, because if I'm not ready for a fight with one of the big boys by the end of 2006, I'm going to retire. I'm will only be 23 and have enough time to make another profession a success.
I plan on fighting about 7 or 8 times this next year, and hope to travel in those fights, but some will have to be at home.

You can scout Platov a bit on the download page of Allboxing.ru. Platov has a bit of a Dempsey-like style. He likes to crouch down and bang a right hook to the body from his orthodox stance so be ready to bend your knees and stand him up with an uppercut. Good luck, may the force be with you and all that good shit.

[damien590]

This thread is a joke. Eugene Hill easliy, this guy could knock you out
with either hand at the drop of a dime. None of these fighters stands
a chance with a motivated Eugene at the pro level, the guy's a fuckin
monster!

This whole post is one big joke.

[yiddo14]

pretty sure d.price(uk) has beat up on most of these names anyway thats not even bringing up the eastern european fighters!! i dont expect any of the names mentioned(except thomas)to make much of an impact in the higher levels of the pro game.

[damien590]

Nobody beats Eugene under the pro ranks & if ya'll were impressed with
prime Tyson...you'd definitely like this guy. Short, quick, athletic, &
powerful. Eugene is the truth! I just hope he doesn't waste his talent by
not turning pro.

[ctill]

The list is incomplete and out of date. You need to include Jonte Wills,Clarence Tillman,Micheal Hunter and Kasim Howard.

[emile]

Well, sure its out of date, it hadn't been updated in 9 months. Kauffman is perhaps the farthest along as a pro right now, although I haven't heard anyone rave about him at all.

But you've got the first hand experience Clarence. So tell me, not counting yourself, who do you think is the toughest of the current amateur super heavies? Who is the most overrated? Who will be the best pro?

[GRfan]

You should also add Felix Stewart since he won the 2006 National Golden Gloves and defeated Hunter in the finals. He also defeated Ashanti Jordan during the tournament. He isn't huge, probably around 210, but he is better than some others on the list.