Calzaghe's February barnburner!

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 08 Nov 2006, 09:29

http://www.secondsout.com/uk/lukl.cfm?ccs=471&cs=20695

WHAT A FIGHT!

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 08 Nov 2006, 09:35

Good move by the Calzaghe team to be honest. Minimal risk but big rewards. Manfredo is well known in the States. If Joe destroys him as would be expected, it would go down very well with HBO and his reputation amongst casual fans. Definitely a good way to go about getting better name recognition.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Nov 2006, 09:37

If this is true what a crock of shit.

"The next fight will be a megafight" is what we hear all the time. Bika was accepted as the next one was big, now I suppose the next one after this is a "megafight"?

Codswallop.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 08 Nov 2006, 09:39

johnswan1 wrote:Good move by the Calzaghe team to be honest. Minimal risk but big rewards. Manfredo is well known in the States. If Joe destroys him as would be expected, it would go down very well with HBO and his reputation amongst casual fans. Definitely a good way to go about getting better name recognition.

i couldn't agree more. Calzaghe at this point in his career MUST take a few biding time fights to keep busy and work his way towards megafight 2010. At 34, he has plenty of time to work his way up the rankings, get a bit of HBO exposure to get his name out there. No point, say calling anyone out or trying to make fights happen, like proper P4P fighters would.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 08 Nov 2006, 09:47

Minimal risk...

Says it all

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 08 Nov 2006, 09:48

Well obviously it's complete bullsh1t for those who know it's a complete mismatch, but money talks. Would you take on any sort of job that could make you incapable of working again at the same level if you had the option of doing a much easier job, but for more money?

liamlion · Post by **liamlion** » 08 Nov 2006, 09:49

johnswan1 wrote:Good move by the Calzaghe team to be honest. Minimal risk but big rewards. Manfredo is well known in the States. If Joe destroys him as would be expected, it would go down very well with HBO and his reputation amongst casual fans. Definitely a good way to go about getting better name recognition.

Are you joking? There's fuk all good about fighting a second-rate, blown-up middleweight, reality TV star.

At this juncture in his career Calzaghe should not be pandering to any TV company, or casual fans - because the kunt hasnt done it at any stage in his career up to date, so why do it now with the end of his career in sight.

Calzaghe should take a meaningful fight...and there has to be a more meaningful fight than Peter Manfredo.

Joe Calzaghe's career is a joke. If this fight happens, then this would just go to underline the fact.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 08 Nov 2006, 09:50

Well it's only rumours and most of you say how shite Seconds Out is.

Maybe they needed something to write, hence why they put rumour.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 08 Nov 2006, 09:53

If I was Calzaghe John i'd be quite keen to leave some sort of legacy in my final few years. He has picked up enough paydays for easy defences surely and Kessler or Taylor are the only names people should except. It's getting beyond a joke now, take a look at the BBC archives and see how many "Frank promises next Calzaghe fight to be the big one" there have been over the years. Said at the time a Lacy win would have been far better for boxing.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 08 Nov 2006, 09:57

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/sho ... post920036

Incase you can;t see the post.

According to danish media, Mogens Palle - promotor of Mikkel Kessler - has made Calzaghe an offer of 20 mill. dkr. (1,8 mill. £) for a fight in Denmark.

It is obviously a pointless exercise, since Calzaghe has made it clear he won't go to Denmark and the amount offered won't impress him much either.

apparently the offer is made from frustations that Palle can get no indication as to what Warren might be prepared to offer Kessler to go to the UK.
It seems Warren is once again showing no interest in making a fight with Kessler. Their eyes are on Taylor i guess.

Recent news that Kessler has a rib-injury, that most likely keeps him out of the game untill march won't make things any easier.

Chances of that fight ever happening are - as always - very slim.

It sucks

Can Palle afford that much?

Anyway at least Catlley didn't get his ribs inijured by Beyer when he KO'ed him.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 08 Nov 2006, 09:58

Kessler's ribs were injured in training for Beyer

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 08 Nov 2006, 09:59

Max Molyneux wrote:
Anyway at least Catlley didn't get his ribs inijured by Beyer when he KO'ed him.

Does anyone know where I can find the puking emoticon?

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 08 Nov 2006, 10:01

viciousmaussa wrote:Kessler's ribs were injured in training for Beyer

Thought it was Beyer's bodyshots?

He sure wasn't missing with those bodyshots anyway.

Does anyone know where I can find the puking emoticon?

Puking at what exactly?

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 08 Nov 2006, 10:05

Your inablilty to find anything at fault with Calzaghe and his career choices.

and now you're trying to discredit Kessler saying Catley never got busted up by Beyer.

states · Post by **states** » 08 Nov 2006, 10:10

Now, I try and ignore anything that comes from Eastside boxing at any cost, but if Palle really has offered Calzaghe £1.8 million, Joe should be getting himself to Denmark sharpish.

Manfredo would be an absolute joke. I don't give a fornicate if he's improved recently or not.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 08 Nov 2006, 10:11

Ermm I do say his faults, most just ignore them.

Any fights that he should of had but didn't is most likely 50/50 blame from both sides.

He's hurts his hands because of the way he hits.

That enough for ye?

:P

I discredited Lacy too.

No one complains when the Danish discredit Calzaghe.

At least they do with Pundit.

But I do say that Joe needs the Kessler fight.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 08 Nov 2006, 10:41

Terence wrote:I hear they have Gareth Gates lined-up as his defining 'legacy' fight.

Like his song says it could be anyone of us.

T.M.K · Post by **T.M.K** » 08 Nov 2006, 10:48

nickd wrote:If this is true what a crock of shit.

"The next fight will be a megafight" is what we hear all the time. Bika was accepted as the next one was big, now I suppose the next one after this is a "megafight"?

Well said my old friend......

I can only sigh, say "oh you must be joking" - and then roll my eyes....... which is exactly what I did when I read the news.

"T.M.K"

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 08 Nov 2006, 10:49

Come on, it's seconds out who you guys say is shite.

Wait till it's confirmed by Warren.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 08 Nov 2006, 10:52

Manfredo is OK as a tune up IF this leads to Kessler later in 2007. At least a top 10-15 super-middleweight.

If it doesn't lead to Kessler it's not OK though.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 08 Nov 2006, 10:55

Max Molyneux wrote:Come on, it's seconds out who you guys say is shite.

Wait till it's confirmed by Warren.

Do you really think Warren would be a more reliable source?

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 08 Nov 2006, 11:02

pundit wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Come on, it's seconds out who you guys say is shite.

Wait till it's confirmed by Warren.
Do you really think Warren would be a more reliable source?

Yes as he is Calzaghe's PROMOTER.

I like your before post though.

Hopefully it will lead to Kessler afterwards.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 08 Nov 2006, 11:07

Max Molyneux wrote:
pundit wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Come on, it's seconds out who you guys say is shite.

Wait till it's confirmed by Warren.
Do you really think Warren would be a more reliable source?
Yes as he is Calzaghe's PROMOTER.

Seems you haven't learned much from the previous 10 years with Warren as Calzaghe's promoter... Here is how you extract the maximum of correct forecasts from Warren's statemetns:

Warren says "A" -- assume "NOT A".

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 08 Nov 2006, 11:27

And it seems that you havent learned that if Warren confirms an average fighter for Calzaghe it's awwwwn!

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 08 Nov 2006, 11:33

This is a poor fight. Wasn't Bika really meant to be a tune up? Calzaghe is a great fighter and is wasted fighting some who, as stated in the seconds out article, has lost 3 of his last 8 fights. Real legacy building stuff this.

This is bullshit low risk maximum reward. Why won't he go to Denmark? The payday if true looks good and this is a fight most fans want. What happened to listening to the fans? After all they generate alot of the money and a fight will surely generate more if its being demanded by most boxing fans?

Bollocks. Anyone else sick of knowing the winner of a fight when it's just been announced.