Tony Dodson - Are you good value to win at 11/2?

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 08 Nov 2006, 17:56

It is a while since I've had a decent bet on the boxing. Been burnt a couple of times (had Rahman to beat Maskaev and worst of all Juarez to beat Barrera in the rematch...) but still doing ok for the year after I backed Winky and Taylor for the draw at 20/1.

Based on the best price offered by the bookies, a bet of £180 on Dodson to win will earn profit of £1,000.

What do you lads think, is it worth a punt? Bare in mind the same size bet on Froch would earn profit of £15.

I'll wait until closer to the fight before deciding what sort of size bet to have but will definitely have something on him.

Still two weeks away I know but come on Dodson - I'm sure a few of us here will be counting on you. Best of luck with the training & hope you can shut him up!

E · Post by E » 08 Nov 2006, 19:16

johnswan1 wrote:It is a while since I've had a decent bet on the boxing. Been burnt a couple of times (had Rahman to beat Maskaev and worst of all Juarez to beat Barrera in the rematch...) but still doing ok for the year after I backed Winky and Taylor for the draw at 20/1.

Based on the best price offered by the bookies, a bet of £180 on Dodson to win will earn profit of £1,000.

What do you lads think, is it worth a punt? Bare in mind the same size bet on Froch would earn profit of £15.

I'll wait until closer to the fight before deciding what sort of size bet to have but will definitely have something on him.

Still two weeks away I know but come on Dodson - I'm sure a few of us here will be counting on you. Best of luck with the training & hope you can shut him up!

Im gonna put a few quid on Dodson....but not as much as that.

Good luck to you though - Dodson has a better than 11-2 chance

states · Post by **states** » 08 Nov 2006, 21:23

Dodson has to be worth a few quid. I think Froch is favourite, don't get me wrong. But 11/2 in a two horse race seems more than reasonable. Especially as Dodson seems more than up for it.

markinmiddy · Post by **markinmiddy** » 09 Nov 2006, 06:30

tony gonna do him.Froch will underestimate him resulting in him running out of steam in later rounds.Dodson to win.............shock everyone!

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 09 Nov 2006, 06:41

I still favour Froch in this one, despite his many flaws, he has always come through and got the result - Although he wont get away with that at world level.

The question I dont know the answer to is can Dodson exploit Froch's carelessness? - If he can, then imo he'll win.

Dodson is certainly talking himself up for this one, and credit to him for 'wanting' the fight - Should be a good un!

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 09 Nov 2006, 06:56

Good odds, I was gonna stick 20 quid on but might put a bit more down.

Of course Tony is going to say he's a good bet!

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 09 Nov 2006, 07:01

I wouldn't bet against Froch in this one, think he'll prove too hard hitting for Tony.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 09 Nov 2006, 07:49

Is everyone beating around the bush just because Tony posts here now?

Froch will destroy him, smoke his boots. But I know tony will try and prove me wrong.

Christ, I'm at it now

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 09 Nov 2006, 07:57

No I seriously think Froch is overrated and has zero defence.

dookus · Post by **dookus** » 09 Nov 2006, 08:02

Froch by (possibly controversial) decision for me - but those odds are far overpriced, Dodson has a great chance of stopping Froch if he can make enough of Froch's wide open defence, or outworking him down the stretch.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 09 Nov 2006, 08:03

Does anybody here know of any links to a full fight report of either of Tonys TKO losses?

dookus · Post by **dookus** » 09 Nov 2006, 08:17

well, out of Tony's mouth during an eastsideboxing interview:

Moreno, he only beat me on a cut. I pounded him for every round, was seven points clear when the fight was stopped. Rybacki, I pounded him, he only beat me on a body shot. He hit me with a body shot that winded me, it never hurt me though. I was 4 points clear going into the last round and he just hit me with one of those shots that I wasn’t expecting, and it winded me. I got my breath back, and my pride and inexperience took over, and I tried to slug it out with him. Instead of just bouncing away and using my boxing ability, I got involved. You see in most of my fights I love a scrap, and he just caught me off guards. Even his manager Krzysztof, the fella that works for Barry Hearn, said to me it shouldn’t have been stopped and that I should have been given the benefit of the doubt as I was the champion and well ahead on the cards. There was ten seconds on the clock before the end of the round and I wished they’d have given me the benefit of the doubt, but it’s just one of those things, and it goes to show I’ve had some tough early fights in my career. The guy was 12 fights unbeaten, 7 knockouts, he was a decent fighter, and I pounded him for 7, 8 rounds before getting tired due to old stamina problems I had.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 09 Nov 2006, 08:37

Froch wins this by KO IMO, but 11-2 is very good odds

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 09 Nov 2006, 08:56

That's interesting stuff. Would still like to read an independent view of it but taking what he said into consideration:

Rybacki was a bit of an unknown quantity at 11-0 (when he fought Dodson in 2002), but only fought twice since then, winning both, so it's difficult to tell how good he was, but if Dodson was four points ahead going into the last round, he was probably the better fighter and Rybacki possibly got lucky.

As for Moreno, again Dodson was miles ahead on the cards - seven points & was stopped by a cut. Prior to fighting Dodson, Moreno was stopped by Erland Betare (24-7-2). Morrade Hakkar (21-2) and Javier Castillejo (52-5). All TKO stoppages so the guy probably had an ok chin.

Going by what Dodson says, these losses are potentially excusable in some form, but as I already said, I'd like to read an independent view of them. The time away that Dodson has had may also come into it. He has had four warm up fights between September 05 and June 06, but the longest any of these have gone is four rounds - so he has fought 15 rounds in total. In comparison, Froch has been in with better opposition and between July 05 and May 06, has also stayed busy and fought four times, but the big difference is in round boxed where Froch has been in 37 rounds during those fights, plus was already a busy fighter before they began.

Should be a good scrap anyway, I'm looking forward to it.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 09 Nov 2006, 09:02

nickd wrote:No I seriously think Froch is overrated and has zero defence.

I maybe a Scouser but I'd listen to this anyway.

Judging by Tony's size, I don't think Froch will be able to overpower him.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 22 Nov 2006, 05:36

Thought it would be worth reviving this one.

Dodson now best price 6/1.

E · Post by E » 22 Nov 2006, 05:47

johnswan1 wrote:Thought it would be worth reviving this one.

Dodson now best price 6/1.

You can even get 13/2 at Bet1128.....

Stegsie · Post by **Stegsie** » 22 Nov 2006, 08:27

Any of you lads having a flutter on the Dodson -V- Froch fight on Friday? If so, what are the best prices you are getting? I initally had 6/1 for a Dodson win, but cant get higher that 9/2 for that now.

Anyone any better prices?

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 22 Nov 2006, 08:35

Stegsie wrote:Any of you lads having a flutter on the Dodson -V- Froch fight on Friday? If so, what are the best prices you are getting? I initally had 6/1 for a Dodson win, but cant get higher that 9/2 for that now.

Anyone any better prices?

6/1 with Ladbrokes.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 22 Nov 2006, 09:23

With Tony D being as up for this fight as he's ever been, you'd expect him to make it a very tough night for Froch - could be a war in fact.

But outside injury or cuts, I think Carl has the edge in class, plus the get out of jail punch as well. Late stoppage for Froch...or a fired up Dodson might take it to points.

Either way Carl should come through a testing night on Friday.

lurkyshaka · Post by **lurkyshaka** » 24 Nov 2006, 10:01

MightyWarrior wrote:With Tony D being as up for this fight as he's ever been, you'd expect him to make it a very tough night for Froch - could be a war in fact.

But outside injury or cuts, I think Carl has the edge in class, plus the get out of jail punch as well. Late stoppage for Froch...or a fired up Dodson might take it to points.

Either way Carl should come through a testing night on Friday.

I think the fact that Dodson is so up for this fight means he's likely to walk into something big. For as long as it lasts its going to be an action fight but i think we'll see Dodson get caught and taken out between 4-6.

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 24 Nov 2006, 10:10

http://www.betfair.com

Dodson = £7.20 currently (approx 13/2)

You could lay an amount for higher though and hope to have it accepted.

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 24 Nov 2006, 14:46

nickd wrote:No I seriously think Froch is overrated and has zero defence.

Words out of my mouth, couldnt agree more - Not sure if Dodson is the man to do it but somebody soon will exploit the Froch lack of defence and have him on his arse - Really hope Tony can though.

SJELONNI · Post by **SJELONNI** » 24 Nov 2006, 15:31

I wouldn't do Tony at any price, he might give it a goodshot, but i can 100% only see one winner here, FROCH!!!

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