Hunter Spanked!

Razor · Post by **Razor** » 11 Nov 2006, 09:03

Not Michael's night, hopefully he can learn from this. To the guy who said Molitor was boo'ed so FVCK he's from canada and in my town its a rough town with not many passionate boxing fans just some punch ready knuckle heads, what did you expect a nice warm welcome and blowing him kisses, we wanted to get into his head and make it difficult as we could, Micky was just a kid of the streets like all of us up here with not much education or nothing, and for him to come this far is AMAZING and a dream come true. Full RESPECT to the lad

slapbangwhallop · Post by **slapbangwhallop** » 11 Nov 2006, 09:18

Razor wrote:Not Michael's night, hopefully he can learn from this. To the guy who said Molitor was boo'ed so FVCK he's from canada and in my town its a rough town with not many passionate boxing fans just some punch ready knuckle heads, what did you expect a nice warm welcome and blowing him kisses, we wanted to get into his head and make it difficult as we could, Micky was just a kid of the streets like all of us up here with not much education or nothing, and for him to come this far is AMAZING and a dream come true. Full RESPECT to the lad

Passionate doesnt have to equate to being disresptful. Most boxers come from "rough" areas - its no excuse. I've noticed it at Hatton fights also - where you get a lot of football fans who think its acceptable, its not its embrassing and disgusts me. I remember as a kid I booed a guy going into to the ring to fight my brother and my father hit me a punch in the back of the head and told me to always respect a boxer and either be quiet of a respectful quiet clap - I've never booed a man getting int othe ring again.

Anyway back to Hunter - what I learnt about him is that he has no plan B - when he got tagged and knew the other guy was quick and as strong then he quit! poor!

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 11 Nov 2006, 09:35

i never boo a fighter into the ring but i think its a home crowds duty to make it tough for the other guy as much as poss. so no worries about that.
i'm old enough to know that regretting what you do when p...ed is pointless, so james i dont think i'll be ashamed of it especially as molitor was better than even i expected, the work they have put in on upping his power has certainly paid off.
great balance, great accuracy, cool head, every punch in the book, nice defence and now a decent dig - he's getting there

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 11 Nov 2006, 10:02

harrygreb wrote:i never boo a fighter into the ring but i think its a home crowds duty to make it tough for the other guy as much as poss. so no worries about that.
i'm old enough to know that regretting what you do when p...ed is pointless, so james i dont think i'll be ashamed of it especially as molitor was better than even i expected, the work they have put in on upping his power has certainly paid off.
great balance, great accuracy, cool head, every punch in the book, nice defence and now a decent dig - he's getting there

I was only ribbing ya guy, or should that be family guy?

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 11 Nov 2006, 12:45

sligobhoy67 wrote:
Razor wrote:Not Michael's night, hopefully he can learn from this. To the guy who said Molitor was boo'ed so FVCK he's from canada and in my town its a rough town with not many passionate boxing fans just some punch ready knuckle heads, what did you expect a nice warm welcome and blowing him kisses, we wanted to get into his head and make it difficult as we could, Micky was just a kid of the streets like all of us up here with not much education or nothing, and for him to come this far is AMAZING and a dream come true. Full RESPECT to the lad
Passionate doesnt have to equate to being disresptful. Most boxers come from "rough" areas - its no excuse. I've noticed it at Hatton fights also - where you get a lot of football fans who think its acceptable, its not its embrassing and disgusts me. I remember as a kid I booed a guy going into to the ring to fight my brother and my father hit me a punch in the back of the head and told me to always respect a boxer and either be quiet of a respectful quiet clap - I've never booed a man getting int othe ring again.

Anyway back to Hunter - what I learnt about him is that he has no plan B - when he got tagged and knew the other guy was quick and as strong then he quit! poor!

I agree, the booing was very disrespectful, glad it ended inside the distance as I dont see Molitor being given the decision in such an atmosphere. I think 'fans' that behave like that arent real boxing fans, nothing less than soccer hooligan mentality and we can do without that element in boxing, unfortunately it seems to be becoming the norm.
As for Hunter I was rather disapointed in him, I suspected he would be exposed by Molitor, but once he was tagged cleanly he didnt want to know... I dont normally criticise a fighter for 'quitting' but with his hell for leather rep I expected Mike to give a bit more of a fight back before folding completely... as it is Molitor showed that Hunter hasnt the chin or defence to mix it in world class...

JC · Post by JC » 11 Nov 2006, 13:49

The booing is the worst part of going to a live boxing show for me. I think most of the people who do it arn't actually boxing fans, they've just turned up to see the local fighter.

It's not that they show disrespect to the opponent it's that they show no respect at all partly because they've probably never heard of him before the fight was announced and partly because they don't really care that much about boxing anyway.

It particularly turned my stomach to see the way the crown at the MEN treated Tsyu, not that I think for a second it bothered a consimate pro like him.

That's why going to watch an international Rugby match is so much fun, you see fanatical supporters mixed in together abel to support their team and show respect to the opponents.

states · Post by **states** » 11 Nov 2006, 15:19

Whilst I don't encourage booing any fighter on his way to the ring, what do people really expect? Unsavoury it may be, but it's always gone on, and always will do.

And whilst I enjoy international Rugby, let's not pretend they're all angels. You'll hear plenty of booing when an away team's kicker lines up a penalty. Sport thrives on rivalry and intimidation, and no sport would be the same without it.

JC · Post by JC » 11 Nov 2006, 15:57

states wrote:And whilst I enjoy international Rugby, let's not pretend they're all angels. You'll hear plenty of booing when an away team's kicker lines up a penalty. Sport thrives on rivalry and intimidation, and no sport would be the same without it.

Yeah probably got a bit carried away with my own example there, if I'm honest.

states · Post by **states** » 11 Nov 2006, 17:06

Don't get me wrong, I hate 'fans' booing someone they've never heard of. But the crowd that gave Molitor shit on the way into the ring (which, let's face it, he clearly expected, choosing 'Hate Me Now' as his entrance song) also applauded him when he left the arena. I'm sure that fact wasn't lost on Molitor.

Fair play to the 'Canadian Kid', he was class all night long last night.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 11 Nov 2006, 19:52

yeah, did you see how he consoled the young lad dressed in combat gear like team hunter?
true class in and out the ring.

to james i sing a few bars of "je ne regret rein" hic

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 11 Nov 2006, 20:08

harrygreb wrote:yeah, did you see how he consoled the young lad dressed in combat gear like team hunter?
true class in and out the ring.

Yep noticed that, like you say, real class as a fighter & a person too. He looks the real mccoy - brushed aside everyone he's met while hardly breaking a sweat. Be very interesting to see him take on the top guns from south america - but you get the feeling he'll handle it one way or another.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 12 Nov 2006, 20:03

agreed

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 12 Nov 2006, 20:11

harrygreb wrote:yeah, did you see how he consoled the young lad dressed in combat gear like team hunter?
true class in and out the ring.

to james i sing a few bars of "je ne regret rein" hic

Yeah I noticed that too, he bent over and sort of kissed him on the cheek didn't he, nice touch. Molitor seems a class act.

I can remember going to John Humphries fight James Hare (who I've not heard anything of for a long while), and I was sat next to his younger brother, who was beaming with pride and telling me how great his brother was.

When Hare gave him a spanking, the poor lad was crying his eyes out, tears, snot, the lot, I felt terrible for the lad, didn't know what to say to him. His little face was a right sight every time his brother got whacked one.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 13 Nov 2006, 09:48

the first time i heard of the same situation was when joe frazier defended his world title against george foreman. joe made the mistake of providing a ringside seat to his then very young son, marvis.
i imagine marvis's countenance was in a similar condition to that of young humphreys.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 13 Nov 2006, 09:57

Joe wasn't the best dad ever was he..a few years later he chucked poor Marvis in with Larry Holmes, then Mike Tyson. Both fights lasted about a minute each and Marv took about 5 minutes to wake up.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 13 Nov 2006, 10:35

The crazy thing about that was that Marvis was a decent fighter and had he been handled better he could have had a much longer and more successful career... he probably should have started as a Cruiserweight and would have done well in the division I think...

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 13 Nov 2006, 18:44

the ko from larry was a good one i remember

ebeneezer · Post by **ebeneezer** » 14 Nov 2006, 09:54

silkov wrote:The crazy thing about that was that Marvis was a decent fighter and had he been handled better he could have had a much longer and more successful career... he probably should have started as a Cruiserweight and would have done well in the division I think...

Marvis was a very slick speedy boxer who looked good against Bonecrusher Smith and Joe Bugner.

Eddie Futch said that Joe ruined Marvis's career by trying to turn him into a come forward pressure fighter instead of letting him fight the smooth technical style that he was good at.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 14 Nov 2006, 10:34

Joe just wanted his son to be his simulacrum, it was pure ego.

Air Rodney · Post by **Air Rodney** » 18 Nov 2006, 18:57

what was that song Hunter made his entrance to... it was like something off of saturday morning cartoons!! absolutely hilarious!

TheGoods · Post by **TheGoods** » 20 Nov 2006, 12:01

The Piranahs 1980s classic Tom Hark.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 20 Nov 2006, 15:37

michael wasnt much of a pyranah that night

Jacko11 · Post by **Jacko11** » 21 Nov 2006, 04:19

Hunter wont box Dunne he is moving up tp featherweight

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 21 Nov 2006, 07:32

TheGoods wrote:The Piranahs 1980s classic Tom Hark.

Thought it was them, same band who did that tune Zambizi.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 21 Nov 2006, 08:55

livingstone cole wrote:
sligobhoy67 wrote: Passionate doesnt have to equate to being disresptful. Most boxers come from "rough" areas - its no excuse. I've noticed it at Hatton fights also - where you get a lot of football fans who think its acceptable, its not its embrassing and disgusts me. I remember as a kid I booed a guy going into to the ring to fight my brother and my father hit me a punch in the back of the head and told me to always respect a boxer and either be quiet of a respectful quiet clap - I've never booed a man getting int othe ring again.

Anyway back to Hunter - what I learnt about him is that he has no plan B - when he got tagged and knew the other guy was quick and as strong then he quit! poor!
When I went to see Hatton Vs Maussa I applauded Maussa as he made his entrance. I certainly got some real stares and a couple of abusive comments from the guys sat below us. Funnily enough we'd been talking to them before the main event, they were football fans from Salford.

It's ridiculous, they are so used to having segregation of fans in football that if they go to a boxing event and somebody shouts for the opposition they start losing it. Unfortunately boxing seems to always draw a crowd which contains a few guys like this. In Ireland at Gaelic football games, there is no crowd segregation and a game can be watched among 80,000 fans without incident. I think at boxing in particular you get a lot of casual fans who consider themselves hard and are getting wound up more and more from what they're seeing happening in the ring.