CALZAGHES QUOTES ON JONES & HOPKINS
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overhand_right
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CALZAGHES QUOTES ON JONES & HOPKINS
To date, Calzaghe only has one defence of a real world title (by my reckoning). That doensn't compare well to B-Hops 20.
Funny about Calzaghe saying Hopkins and Jones are just talk, pot calling the kettle black!! You've been fighting Bika and now Manfredo you pudendum!! Ever heard of Mikkel Kessler..?
Calzaghe aims at Hopkins' record!
WBO super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe says he plans to surpass former middleweight champion Bernard Hopkins' record of twenty successful title defenses. Calzaghe will equal 'The Executioner's' mark if he defeats Peter Manfredo on March 3, a feat Hopkins has indicated an interest in trying to prevent. "If Bernard Hopkins doesn't want me to break his title defense record, then he should have fought me when he had the chance years ago. Breaking his record? When it comes to fighting me, Bernard Hopkins, like Roy Jones, is a BROKEN record. Just talk, talk, talk. There are a lot of great and exciting fights out there for me, but the only one that means anything to me right now is Peter Manfredo, Jr., because there are no other fights without beating him. But I will say this, I intend to break Bernard's record, with or without him."
Funny about Calzaghe saying Hopkins and Jones are just talk, pot calling the kettle black!! You've been fighting Bika and now Manfredo you pudendum!! Ever heard of Mikkel Kessler..?
Calzaghe aims at Hopkins' record!
WBO super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe says he plans to surpass former middleweight champion Bernard Hopkins' record of twenty successful title defenses. Calzaghe will equal 'The Executioner's' mark if he defeats Peter Manfredo on March 3, a feat Hopkins has indicated an interest in trying to prevent. "If Bernard Hopkins doesn't want me to break his title defense record, then he should have fought me when he had the chance years ago. Breaking his record? When it comes to fighting me, Bernard Hopkins, like Roy Jones, is a BROKEN record. Just talk, talk, talk. There are a lot of great and exciting fights out there for me, but the only one that means anything to me right now is Peter Manfredo, Jr., because there are no other fights without beating him. But I will say this, I intend to break Bernard's record, with or without him."
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MightyWarrior
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Re: CALZAGHES QUOTES ON JONES & HOPKINS
And how many of Hopkin's 20 would you reckon to be real world title fights?overhand_right wrote:To date, Calzaghe only has one defence of a real world title (by my reckoning). That doensn't compare well to B-Hops 20.
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More than Joe's 19.MightyWarrior wrote:And how many of Hopkin's 20 would you reckon to be real world title fights?overhand_right wrote:To date, Calzaghe only has one defence of a real world title (by my reckoning). That doensn't compare well to B-Hops 20.
It's funny to see Joe sit there and complain of those two talking big...isn't Joe the same guy who promised a megafight in November, claimed he wouldn't be ready, ended up taking another tuneup in October, claimed Megafight in February, and now we get Manfredo...captain bait and switch over there should be quiet.
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MightyWarrior
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How many though? C'mon, let's hear it...Mattyp151 wrote:More than Joe's 19.MightyWarrior wrote:And how many of Hopkin's 20 would you reckon to be real world title fights?overhand_right wrote:To date, Calzaghe only has one defence of a real world title (by my reckoning). That doensn't compare well to B-Hops 20.
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pundit
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Re: CALZAGHES QUOTES ON JONES & HOPKINS
Yes, it's easy to assemble a record number of "defenses" if your manager selects all your opponents....overhand_right wrote:To date, Calzaghe only has one defence of a real world title (by my reckoning). That doensn't compare well to B-Hops 20.
Funny about Calzaghe saying Hopkins and Jones are just talk, pot calling the kettle black!! You've been fighting Bika and now Manfredo you pudendum!! Ever heard of Mikkel Kessler..?
Calzaghe aims at Hopkins' record!
WBO super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe says he plans to surpass former middleweight champion Bernard Hopkins' record of twenty successful title defenses. Calzaghe will equal 'The Executioner's' mark if he defeats Peter Manfredo on March 3, a feat Hopkins has indicated an interest in trying to prevent. "If Bernard Hopkins doesn't want me to break his title defense record, then he should have fought me when he had the chance years ago. Breaking his record? When it comes to fighting me, Bernard Hopkins, like Roy Jones, is a BROKEN record. Just talk, talk, talk. There are a lot of great and exciting fights out there for me, but the only one that means anything to me right now is Peter Manfredo, Jr., because there are no other fights without beating him. But I will say this, I intend to break Bernard's record, with or without him."
Calzaghe's defenses obvioulsy don't have the same weight as Hopkins'. They don't have the same weight as Ottke's, as a matter of fact.
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jamesmcdonnell
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Re: CALZAGHES QUOTES ON JONES & HOPKINS
Fact is MW, Hopkins cleaned out his decision, there was simply nobody left around with any credentials at MW when Hopkins had finished. Ignore the belts for a moment, and consider he took on the guy most reckoned was the unstoppable force in Tito, and bitch slapped him. He also took on all his other leading contenders over a very long period of time.MightyWarrior wrote:How many though? C'mon, let's hear it...Mattyp151 wrote:More than Joe's 19.MightyWarrior wrote: And how many of Hopkin's 20 would you reckon to be real world title fights?
Calzaghe, sadly, has never done that. There's so many fighters he never faced, or faced near the ends of their careers. Larsen, Markussen, Green, Mundine, Ottke, the list goes on and on.
Joe is in no position to criticise Hopkins, Bernard is a sure fire all time great, Calzaghe will probably get in there too under todays criteria, but there's no comparing the two men's resumes in my book. Post Trinidad, his record's patchy, but prior to that, he beat down everyone in the division who mattered, and took on Taylor, a young, unbeaten and hungry fighter looking to off him, and that at an age when most fighters are long retired.
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overhand_right
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Re: CALZAGHES QUOTES ON JONES & HOPKINS
All of Hopkins were real world title fights, and before he won it he fought Roy Jones.MightyWarrior wrote:And how many of Hopkin's 20 would you reckon to be real world title fights?overhand_right wrote:To date, Calzaghe only has one defence of a real world title (by my reckoning). That doensn't compare well to B-Hops 20.
B-Hop has 7 defences of the undisputed title, 7 more than Calzaghe.
B-Hop also made 13 defences of his own world title, doing a good job clearing out the division and collecting some very nice scalps like Keith Holmes, Felix Trinidad, and Glencoffee Johnson.
And then there's Joe Calzaghe with his, erm, Chris Eubank win, and then his defences against, erm....
Nah I thought it was a fine match-up, Bika put up a decent challange.Mattyp151 wrote:He did, but he's still yet to win at 168, and was never a challenger at 160. Typical WBO defense material.fist wrote:I thought Bika put up a hard challange, strong bloke, tho very dirty.
As for manfredo, not many others to fight at the moment, and I think its a fantastic move in terms of publicity.
Atleast Calzaghe only took Bika after his draw against Beyer for the WBC title. Before that Bika wasn't even on the radar, and he got the better of Beyer too.Mattyp151 wrote:He did, but he's still yet to win at 168, and was never a challenger at 160. Typical WBO defense material.fist wrote:I thought Bika put up a hard challange, strong bloke, tho very dirty.
Calzaghe should change his name to James Toney.
I can't really put too much weight into a draw with a notoriously slow starter after 4 rounds.lvlarc_uk wrote:Atleast Calzaghe only took Bika after his draw against Beyer for the WBC title. Before that Bika wasn't even on the radar, and he got the better of Beyer too.Mattyp151 wrote:He did, but he's still yet to win at 168, and was never a challenger at 160. Typical WBO defense material.fist wrote:I thought Bika put up a hard challange, strong bloke, tho very dirty.
Calzaghe should change his name to James Toney.
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MightyWarrior
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Re: CALZAGHES QUOTES ON JONES & HOPKINS
But why was Hop winning a watered down, vacant title any more REAL than the other 3 versions of the MW world title, held at the same time?overhand_right wrote: All of Hopkins were real world title fights, and before he won it he fought Roy Jones.
B-Hop has 7 defences of the undisputed title, 7 more than Calzaghe.
Or were they all real as well?
And let's face it, he was defending that title against a real asortment of bums & hobos in the early days - Steve Frank anyone??
Joe Calzaghe is talking bulls***t yes, but so is Hop when he compares his record to Monzon & Hagler IMO.
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Well every last one of Hopkins' defences however bad you think they are would be several notches above Pudwill, McIntyre, Jimenez they are absolute garbage.MightyWarrior wrote:But why was Hop winning a watered down, vacant title any more REAL than the other 3 versions of the MW world title, held at the same time?overhand_right wrote: All of Hopkins were real world title fights, and before he won it he fought Roy Jones.
B-Hop has 7 defences of the undisputed title, 7 more than Calzaghe.
Or were they all real as well?
And let's face it, he was defending that title against a real asortment of bums & hobos in the early days - Steve Frank anyone??
Joe Calzaghe is talking bulls***t yes, but so is Hop when he compares his record to Monzon & Hagler IMO.
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glittermonkey
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Re: CALZAGHES QUOTES ON JONES & HOPKINS
Not sure about this. First part is dead on, but Hopkins has earnt the right to compare his record with those greats. Over the course of his reign he fought the best opposition possible. This may not be the best middle weight era, but Hopkins' record is legit. At least in my eyes.MightyWarrior wrote:Joe Calzaghe is talking bulls***t yes, but so is Hop when he compares his record to Monzon & Hagler IMO.
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overhand_right wrote:To date, Calzaghe only has one defence of a real world title (by my reckoning). That doensn't compare well to B-Hops 20.
Funny about Calzaghe saying Hopkins and Jones are just talk, pot calling the kettle black!! You've been fighting Bika and now Manfredo you pudendum!! Ever heard of Mikkel Kessler..?
Or Calzaghe will fight the winner of contender 2.but that the hell, it is a step up for Calzaghe,he`s now fighting the runner-up from contender 1
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Who was beaten in the first fight by Welterweight Alfonso Gomez.jangeorg wrote:overhand_right wrote:To date, Calzaghe only has one defence of a real world title (by my reckoning). That doensn't compare well to B-Hops 20.
Funny about Calzaghe saying Hopkins and Jones are just talk, pot calling the kettle black!! You've been fighting Bika and now Manfredo you pudendum!! Ever heard of Mikkel Kessler..?
Or Calzaghe will fight the winner of contender 2.but that the hell, it is a step up for Calzaghe,he`s now fighting the runner-up from contender 1