Capital of British boxing?

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 01 Dec 2006, 05:13

I know we've argued (sorry, discussed) this before.

Now that Sheffield is home to the ABA, does this strengthen its claim to be the capital of British boxing?

Where would you say is the best boxing place to be in the UK at the moment?

nickcat0 · Post by **nickcat0** » 01 Dec 2006, 05:22

I wouldn't like to comment on small venues , but if you're talking about somewhere to stage a big fight you can't beat Manchester .

Similarly , I suspect their talent pool of fighters is possibly the best outside of London .

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 01 Dec 2006, 05:31

My heart says Birmingham.

My head says Manchester.

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 01 Dec 2006, 06:15

In Amateur Boxing they like to think Liverpool is.

glittermonkey · Post by **glittermonkey** » 01 Dec 2006, 06:22

I'd go with Nick. In terms of the sports popularity within the city, the amount of decent prospects, and the amount of more established names (both domestically, and internationally) that come from the city (or the immidiate surrounding area) then it's hard to go against Manchester.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 01 Dec 2006, 06:40

Let's think about champions though.

Sheffield has Woods and Witter - two world champs.

Hatton doesn't box in Manchester anymore, does he?

Just playing Devil's advocate... 8)

glittermonkey · Post by **glittermonkey** » 01 Dec 2006, 06:46

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Just playing Devil's advocate... 8)

You're not supposed to say that. Just throw your controversial statement out there and wait for someone to bite.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 01 Dec 2006, 06:46

ABA Boxing wrote:In Amateur Boxing they like to think Liverpool is.

To be fair,in recent years they have produced a lot of champs.
Think they have 8 fighters in tonights ABA finals,which is some going.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 01 Dec 2006, 06:50

Why did they decide to move the ABA's?

You cannot beat the York Hall.

I'd still like to see London as the Capital of British boxing, cause venues like Ally Pally, York Hall etc (I love it when boxing takes place at the Albert Hall) really do have the best atmosphere.

I'm sure the Amateurs would much rather the fights in the York Hall, with all its traditions.

Now its been done up, it seems odd that they have moved it.... unless I have missed something.

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 01 Dec 2006, 06:51

yiddo14 wrote:
ABA Boxing wrote:In Amateur Boxing they like to think Liverpool is.
To be fair,in recent years they have produced a lot of champs.
Think they have 8 fighters in tonights ABA finals,which is some going.

I dont dissagree with you. It Would make sense to hold the Tournament there instead of London. You would probaly get a much bigger crowd.

The European Championships will be held there.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 01 Dec 2006, 06:53

stujones wrote:Why did they decide to move the ABA's?

You cannot beat the York Hall.

I'd still like to see London as the Capital of British boxing, cause venues like Ally Pally, York Hall etc (I love it when boxing takes place at the Albert Hall) really do have the best atmosphere.

I'm sure the Amateurs would much rather the fights in the York Hall, with all its traditions.

Now its been done up, it seems odd that they have moved it.... unless I have missed something.

It's in a terrible state, that's probably why.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 01 Dec 2006, 06:58

stujones wrote:Why did they decide to move the ABA's?

You cannot beat the York Hall.

I'd still like to see London as the Capital of British boxing, cause venues like Ally Pally, York Hall etc (I love it when boxing takes place at the Albert Hall) really do have the best atmosphere.

I'm sure the Amateurs would much rather the fights in the York Hall, with all its traditions.

Now its been done up, it seems odd that they have moved it.... unless I have missed something.

They are at York hall tonight mate.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 01 Dec 2006, 07:02

Indeed they are, I shall be attending.

Never really followed the amateur scene, will be interesting to see what sort of crowd is there. I suspect the majority will be friends, family and affiliates of the local ABC's and ABA grandees. Hey, that rhymes.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 01 Dec 2006, 07:04

Excuse me for being ignorant, but whats with Ian's initial post about the ABA shifting to Sheffield then?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 01 Dec 2006, 07:09

I think Ian is referring to the administrative centre of the ABA, rather than the finals themselves.

Theire phone number now begins with 0114, which is I think not in London

They were based at Crystal palace before.

The truth of the matter is, that London, for a city of it's size, has very few boxers compared to Sheffield, Manchester, and probably Birmingham.

We're soft mollycoddled pansies down here, dining from life's big table, we've no need to be socking one another in the gob when we can enjoy and life of idle hedonism.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 01 Dec 2006, 07:14

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Indeed they are, I shall be attending.

Never really followed the amateur scene, will be interesting to see what sort of crowd is there. I suspect the majority will be friends, family and affiliates of the local ABC's and ABA grandees. Hey, that rhymes.

Me too

Supporting the super heavy from the club I been training at lately,he got a BIG ask though!!!!

Apparently it's gonna be very busy tonight.
All the top ams have done something very strange this year and ENTERED!
Should be good night.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 01 Dec 2006, 07:15

Your based in kent I presume, or is kent England's Orchard?

glittermonkey · Post by **glittermonkey** » 01 Dec 2006, 07:16

jamesmcdonnell wrote:We're soft mollycoddled pansies down here

Ah, a realist.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 01 Dec 2006, 07:22

Yep,I'am a man of Kent.
Quite a few of us coming up tonight to cheer our fella on.

Am I right in saying it's the first year back at York Hall?Were'nt last years at wembley?

glittermonkey · Post by **glittermonkey** » 01 Dec 2006, 07:26

yiddo14 wrote:Yep,I'am a man of Kent.
Quite a few of us coming up tonight to cheer our fella on.

Am I right in saying it's the first year back at York Hall?Were'nt last years at wembley?

Not a Kentish man then?

Where in Kent are you based?

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 01 Dec 2006, 07:35

Yes, the ABA is now based at the English Institute of Sport in Sheffield - not just the admin but training camps and development, I believe.

I didn't mean the finals.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 01 Dec 2006, 07:35

glittermonkey wrote:
yiddo14 wrote:Yep,I'am a man of Kent.
Quite a few of us coming up tonight to cheer our fella on.

Am I right in saying it's the first year back at York Hall?Were'nt last years at wembley?
Not a Kentish man then?

Where in Kent are you based?

I dunno to be honest.
I have had people say are you a Kentish man or man of Kent,and I ain't got the slightest!!
Is it something to do with being born in Kent as opposed to moving to Kent or is it something to with the river medway and on which side you live on it?

I live in Medway,south of the river.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 01 Dec 2006, 07:43

http://www.bbc.co.uk/kent/places/featur ... hman.shtml

You're a man of kent.

I find the quaint traditions and ground in internicine friction of our country cousins most amusing, I almost spat my champagne and truffles out I laughed so much.

glittermonkey · Post by **glittermonkey** » 01 Dec 2006, 07:45

yiddo14 wrote:
glittermonkey wrote:
yiddo14 wrote:Yep,I'am a man of Kent.
Quite a few of us coming up tonight to cheer our fella on.

Am I right in saying it's the first year back at York Hall?Were'nt last years at wembley?
Not a Kentish man then?

Where in Kent are you based?
I dunno to be honest.
I have had people say are you a Kentish man or man of Kent,and I ain't got the slightest!!
Is it something to do with being born in Kent as opposed to moving to Kent or is it something to with the river medway and on which side you live on it?

I live in Medway,south of the river.

I don't think anyone really knows what the difference is. I've heard people say that it's a state of mind. It's crap anyway, whatever the difference.

I just wondered who you were cheering on, but if you're north Kent it's odds on I won't know him. I lived right in the south east corner just outside England's arsehole. Or Dover as most know it.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 01 Dec 2006, 07:59

glittermonkey wrote:
yiddo14 wrote:
glittermonkey wrote: Not a Kentish man then?

Where in Kent are you based?
I dunno to be honest.
I have had people say are you a Kentish man or man of Kent,and I ain't got the slightest!!
Is it something to do with being born in Kent as opposed to moving to Kent or is it something to with the river medway and on which side you live on it?

I live in Medway,south of the river.
I don't think anyone really knows what the difference is. I've heard people say that it's a state of mind. It's crap anyway, whatever the difference.

I just wondered who you were cheering on, but if you're north Kent it's odds on I won't know him. I lived right in the south east corner just outside England's arsehole. Or Dover as most know it.

Cheering on a fella called Tom Dallas.
He got to the final last year but got beat.He is fighting British number 1 David Price.
He fights out of St Marys,Chatham.

Dover eh?I know it better as little Kosovo