after seing his name come up on the "oldest living fighter" thread and then remembering another thread with respect to Jake's popularity "pre & post" the film the Raging Bull. It occured to me which Jake was 'tougher'...in other words "who was the real LaMotta?"
which also poses the question "were fighters from the past really that 'hard' or was it the magic of the Pen & Legend before the days of televised fights!"