Most Bouts Without Ever Being KO'd

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 02 Dec 2006, 19:18

Here's a start

1.Panama Al Brown 170
2.Joe Lynch 158
3.Nel Tarleton 144
4.Kid Gavilan 143
5.Gorilla Jones 140
6.Mike Gibbons 133
7.Billy Graham 126
8.Duilio Loi 126
9.Pete Sanstol 112
10.Pancho Villa 109
11.Al Gainer 107
12.Santos Laciar 101
13.Carlos Monzon 100

I've got to be missing some names.

Martin Sosa Cameron · Post by **Martin Sosa Cameron** » 02 Dec 2006, 19:35

Hi, Seamus! How a good idea!

Here a great boy:

Nicolino Locche 128

Martin Sosa Cameron · Post by **Martin Sosa Cameron** » 02 Dec 2006, 19:36

As I remember, too over 100 fights,

Ray Sugar Robinson

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 02 Dec 2006, 19:42

Well Archie Strung together 72 in a row before a KO and then strung together another 63 run that's two pretty impressive streaks.....they were interrupted by some ko's along the way of course.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 02 Dec 2006, 20:00

Locche and Robinson each have a KO loss though. I was speaking of fighters who have never been stopped in there pro career. Jack Britton got KO'd in his 2nd fight, and then went 347 fights and the rest of his career without a stoppage loss. Funny how most of these guys are seldom mentioned as having some of the best chins in boxing history.

Ric · Post by **Ric** » 02 Dec 2006, 20:13

See list here:
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/cbzforum ... php?t=3575

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 02 Dec 2006, 21:11

Ric wrote:See list here:
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/cbzforum ... php?t=3575

Is each name on this a "KO free" pugilist?

DoubleM · Post by **DoubleM** » 02 Dec 2006, 21:13

Is this 'most fights without being knocked out' as in just streaks, or records altogether? Fighters who weren't knocked out at all (Panama Al Brown, Kid Gavilan etc.) or fighters who went a long time without being knocked out (like Jack Britton and Benny Leonard)?

Ric · Post by **Ric** » 02 Dec 2006, 21:14

BoxBuzz wrote:
Ric wrote:See list here:
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/cbzforum ... php?t=3575
Is each name on this a "KO free" pugilist?

Yep, no KO or TKO loss in their record.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 02 Dec 2006, 21:29

Couple of guys Ive known who could be on that list:
Randy Smith Chicago super middleweight from the eighties and nineties 63 fights never stopped.
Milwaukees Danny Blake same number.
These guys had sub 500 hundred records.
Maybe that makes it more impressive I dont know.
Smiths record is worth looking at , quite a resume.
We used to talk about it all the time how he would go fight out of town and get robbed.
Course I used to take it with a grain of salt as fighters do their share of fussin about decision losses but looking at his record Im sure some of those fights should have gone his way.
And Blake had a chin made of cast iron.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 03 Dec 2006, 03:08

..seamus is correct...a fighter who has been "stopped" has been KNOCKED OUT. i just explained this on the current scene. i will get a lot of disagreements about this and they will all be wrong.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 03 Dec 2006, 10:21

Jaclem wrote:..seamus is correct...a fighter who has been "stopped" has been KNOCKED OUT. i just explained this on the current scene. i will get a lot of disagreements about this and they will all be wrong.

This works for me "Knocked Out" can be used in more than one way in context with the sport...the very technical act of being sent into limboland by an overt act of your opponent is of course one. But for the purposes of this discussion I think we have agreed on the broader more generic meaning. If you didnt' finish the bout...for whatever reason and the other opponent gained a "W" on their record you have been "knocked out" of the game so to speak. I would assume that would include TKO RTD and any other imaginitive descriptors that bring about an early end to a given fight.

Please correct me if I am in error.

JC · Post by JC » 03 Dec 2006, 13:01

BoxBuzz wrote:If you didnt' finish the bout...for whatever reason and the other opponent gained a "W" on their record you have been "knocked out" of the game so to speak. I would assume that would include TKO RTD and any other imaginitive descriptors that bring about an early end to a given fight.

Should that include DQs?

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 03 Dec 2006, 13:08

J-C wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:If you didnt' finish the bout...for whatever reason and the other opponent gained a "W" on their record you have been "knocked out" of the game so to speak. I would assume that would include TKO RTD and any other imaginitive descriptors that bring about an early end to a given fight.
Should that include DQs?

My gut reaction would be yes. as long as the qualifying fighter did not recieve an "L" on his record. NC being a neutral outcome.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 03 Dec 2006, 15:53

..i exempted disq on my post on the current scene.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 03 Dec 2006, 22:26

Oops I'm having a senior moment...dq/nc.....probably both should not be in the mix

enrique · Post by **enrique** » 04 Dec 2006, 06:42

Here's a name not many remember.

Ignacio Ara, who was Spanish and European middleweight champion was never stopped in 174 fights and he faced some tough opposition.

Ric · Post by **Ric** » 04 Dec 2006, 12:57

Decagon wrote:An ND or NC, yes, but why not a DQ? In gaming, a DQ is equivalent with a KO or TKO.

Because one can be DQ'd for an accidental low blow (at least it happened in the old days), for example. That's not the same as getting your ass kicked.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 04 Dec 2006, 18:14

I say allow me to chair a blue ribbon panel of experts to take up the subject and come up with an answer, I want, Decagon barry, and Collins and I will apply for federal funding. I'm pretty sure we won't come to a concensus which is a good thing because we will insure funding for our panel for decades to come.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 05 Dec 2006, 03:03

..shove your panel.....i've already explained all that needs to be known about this subject.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 05 Dec 2006, 08:21

...shoving panels? refusing to spend the peoples money? already have the answer? fellow libertarian perhaps......

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 05 Dec 2006, 11:29

Back to the original topic. Johnny Dundee started his career by going 161 bouts without being stopped. Then, after a 1st round KO loss to Willie Jackson he went another 174 bouts before he was stopped again. That and Jack Britton's streak seem to be the most impressive.