Aftermath wrote:Of course Richard Steele made the right call. Taylor was out on his feet within the scheduled rounds of the fight. It happens. Chavez deservedly won in the Most Dramatic Finish of All Time.
I agree. Steele did the right thing and should be applauded for it rather than people claiming he did it because he'd been paid to make sure Chavez won.
2nd most dramatic finish of all time might be Weaver vs Tate.
Decagon wrote:Watch the fight again, noob. There were at least 10 seconds left when Taylor got back up. Steele, by the rules, should have either stopped it when he got to eight, or let it go. He did neither, and took extra time to check out Taylor. If Steele'd let the fight go at the count of eight, as he was supposed to, Chavez would've had enough time to knock Taylor out for good.
...if there was 2:58 left when Steele called it, Noob...and Taylor got up at 5, Noob, How much time would be left, Noob, if Taylor stays down until 8 or 9...instead of getting up at 5...can you count, Noob?...and don't forget, Noob, Steele is taking 'extra time' to check him out...
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walshb wrote:Silkov, you wil be blue in the face trying to get your point across. These are not fight fans, all they want is blood, guts, pain and unnecessary hurt.
All I wanted was for the last 2 seconds to run out...the blood, guts, pain and unnecessary hurt came earlier...
Sweet Scientist wrote: ...if there was 2:58 left when Steele called it, Noob...and Taylor got up at 5, Noob, How much time would be left, Noob, if Taylor stays down until 8 or 9...instead of getting up at 5...can you count, Noob?...and don't forget, Noob, Steele is taking 'extra time' to check him out...
Dumbass, it doesn't work that way. If Taylor had gotten up at 8 or 9, totally unresponsive, Steele would've stopped it right away instead of waiting 10 minutes.
Steele didn't stop it right away when he got up at 5, Noob...and he wouldn't stop it right away at 8 or 9, Noob..which pushes it closer and closer to the 3:00 mark, Noob...even you, Noob, could probably avoid getting hit for a couple of seconds...this was a controversial ending, not just my idea, Noob...
7 seconds left: The standing eight-count is finished, and Steele has to either let the fight continue or stop it. He's leaning towards stopping it, but instead, he spends an extra five seconds making sure he was making the right decision.
Your conjecture is falsely based on the assumption that Steele would take another five seconds.
Fight ended at 2:58, Noob...Steele asked him if he's alright at 2:54.6, Noob...Steele stops the fight with a couple seconds left, Noob...controversy continues, Noob...not enough time left, Noob
bollox wrote:I see Decagon Rubio is insulting people at Boxrec too (he can't help himself, take pity on him )
Pity he cant go elsewhere though and take his bad mouth with him. Why call someone a 'noob' just because they dont agree with you??... also I think if you're going to call someone a bad name you should at least have the class to spell it correctly... ie NOOB should really be NOB!...
I am the spelldoctor... please call me with all spelling and grammatical grievences on this thread!... 8)
bollox wrote:I see Decagon Rubio is insulting people at Boxrec too (he can't help himself, take pity on him )
Pity he cant go elsewhere though and take his bad mouth with him. Why call someone a 'noob' just because they dont agree with you??... also I think if you're going to call someone a bad name you should at least have the class to spell it correctly... ie NOOB should really be NOB!...
I am the spelldoctor... please call me with all spelling and grammatical grievences on this thread!... 8)
It's good to see that some people still know how to spell
An aspect of this fight I seldom here mentioned is the scoring. Those who believe Steele was wrong for stopping it with 2 seconds left, make the argument that without the stoppage Taylor clearly wins a split decision, something that in there eyes he truly deserved for enduring a horrible beating. While obviously that's what the outcome would have been, I think the scoring was ridiculous. Two judges had Taylor ahead by 5 and 7 pts ! In that case I see the scoring as an injustice to Chavez, who clearly had made it a much closer fight.
Seamus wrote:An aspect of this fight I seldom here mentioned is the scoring. Those who believe Steele was wrong for stopping it with 2 seconds left, make the argument that without the stoppage Taylor clearly wins a split decision, something that in there eyes he truly deserved for enduring a horrible beating. While obviously that's what the outcome would have been, I think the scoring was ridiculous. Two judges had Taylor ahead by 5 and 7 pts ! In that case I see the scoring as an injustice to Chavez, who clearly had made it a much closer fight.
I agree, points wise it was a very close fight for me... Taylor landed more and out-boxed Chavez for periods but Chavez landed with the more powerful and damaging blows... personally I'd have it anyones fight going into the last round as Chavez had closed the points gap in the last couple of rounds.... thing is from about the 10th on you could see that Taylor was on the edge of being stopped or koed as his injuries were appalling...
bollox wrote:Steele did what he was supposed to do - he protected the fighter after the fighter couldn't / wouldn't / didn't respond to his prompts
at first i saw it as taylor got screwed, but when reality settles, youre 100% right. one think every fighter needs to remember...ANSWER THE REF WHEN QUESTIONED!!!....
OK...one final question for a weary thread...IF Steele lets the last seconds run out, and Taylor gets the split decision...is it controversial? Anybody going to say it should have been stopped? I doubt it...
Only controversial in the scoring, since a 10-8 round would still leave Taylor ahead by 3 and 5 pts on 2 cards. Bottom line, Steele didn't break any rules by stopping the fight.
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