Billy Smith, is he on the gear?

theguru · Post by **theguru** » 09 Dec 2006, 10:35

I doubt Billy Smith would bother taking steroids,his Twin Ernie has the same build albeit at a different weight division.They are both covered in Acne and have been for a longtime.Acne affects the facial,shoulder and back regions the most.Only really heavy doses of Testosterone would cause this, like it does on todays bodybuilders.If this were the case both fighters would be fighting way above there current weight class due to the massive weight gain the drugs would promote.More than likely the ACNE is a family trait, it is wrong to accuse either of those fighters of performance enhacing drugs.
He made John Murray look very poor and aftrewards Murray looked really banged up.Personally I dont think this kid is going anywhere.

PS Although Acne is more common in the young it still affects adults
http://www.niams.nih.gov/hi/topics/acne/acne.htm#acne_d

ciscokid · Post by **ciscokid** » 09 Dec 2006, 12:07

SIMPSONS - I'm guessing that you're not a friend of Smith then??

SIMPSONS · Post by **SIMPSONS** » 09 Dec 2006, 12:35

ciscokid wrote:SIMPSONS - I'm guessing that you're not a friend of Smith then??

Nar mate, them Wendsbury & Kidderminster boys are a bit backwards for me.

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 09 Dec 2006, 12:41

theguru wrote:I doubt Billy Smith would bother taking steroids,his Twin Ernie has the same build albeit at a different weight division.They are both covered in Acne and have been for a longtime.Acne affects the facial,shoulder and back regions the most.Only really heavy doses of Testosterone would cause this, like it does on todays bodybuilders.If this were the case both fighters would be fighting way above there current weight class due to the massive weight gain the drugs would promote.More than likely the ACNE is a family trait, it is wrong to accuse either of those fighters of performance enhacing drugs.
He made John Murray look very poor and aftrewards Murray looked really banged up.Personally I dont think this kid is going anywhere.

PS Although Acne is more common in the young it still affects adults
http://www.niams.nih.gov/hi/topics/acne/acne.htm#acne_d

ciscokid · Post by **ciscokid** » 09 Dec 2006, 12:53

SIMPSONS wrote:
ciscokid wrote:SIMPSONS - I'm guessing that you're not a friend of Smith then??
Nar mate, them Wendsbury & Kidderminster boys are a bit backwards for me.

I'm guessing that you box as you seemed to want to duff Terrible Terry...

If you do box, it appears from this thread that Smith fights un-liceinced, so why don't you fight him...?

Boxingmad · Post by **Boxingmad** » 09 Dec 2006, 13:05

SIMPSONS - My back in covered in spots and I have never taken steroids in my life. Come round here and say that, fuckface and i'll rip your fornicating bollox off.

U sayin I'm a drugtaker? Coz it sounds that way to me. I've got serious acne problems on my back and some little jumped-up pudendum assumes it's due to steriods.

Get a life pudendum.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 09 Dec 2006, 14:37

People should remember that Acne was around long before Steroids...

and Billy isn't exactly burstling with muscles is he?.... lets give him some credit for exposing Murray as being rather ordinary...

SIMPSONS · Post by **SIMPSONS** » 09 Dec 2006, 14:44

Boxingmad wrote:SIMPSONS - My back in covered in spots and I have never taken steroids in my life. Come round here and say that, fuckface and i'll rip your effing bollox off.

U sayin I'm a drugtaker? Coz it sounds that way to me. I've got serious acne problems on my back and some little jumped-up pudendum assumes it's due to steriods.

Get a life pudendum.

U can't knock the skin off a rice pudding so you won't be ripping anything mate.

Before i go on say exactly who u are.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 09 Dec 2006, 14:44

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Fighters I suspect of juicing - Holyfield (look at who helped him muscle up for HW), Pacquaio (his skin is very thin - a side effect of the juice and bodyfat just seem far too low), Golota (back), Klitchkos

Interestingly when some steroids were legal there was a possibility taking food supplements that were produced in the same labs could trigger a positive drug test. I remember a few Maximuscle sponsored athletes getting bans. And of course some dumber athletes would assume if a product was legal it wouldn't fail a test

Just because Paq has 'thin skin' doesnt mean he's a drug cheat?.... he may just have thin skin... I think its far less likely that a lighter weight fighter like Paq would take steroids... he's always had the same style etc and shown no sudden improvement, also I dont believe that Freddie Roach would ever be involved with drugs or any fighters involved with performance enhancing drugs...

ebeneezer · Post by **ebeneezer** » 09 Dec 2006, 14:51

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Fighters I suspect of juicing - Holyfield (look at who helped him muscle up for HW), Pacquaio (his skin is very thin - a side effect of the juice and bodyfat just seem far too low), Golota (back), Klitchkos

If you want to accuse a boxer of being on the gear look no futher than Shannon Briggs.

Mosley may have been on the gear due to his close association with the BALCO labs who were supplying athletes with performance enhancers.

And due to the fact that after he testified at the trial of it's owner Victor Conte he looked a shell of his former self.

Some people accuse Lennox of roiding due to the ammount of bulking up his did from his days as a beanpole in the late 80s- early 90s but I don't buy it.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 09 Dec 2006, 14:55

Roy Jones is one who I think got up to mo good and his sudden loss of form is very mysterious....

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 09 Dec 2006, 16:19

silkov wrote:Roy Jones is one who I think got up to mo good and his sudden loss of form is very mysterious....

The guy is 37! Not mysterious, Hamed's reflexes were gone at 27.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 09 Dec 2006, 16:49

SIMPSONS wrote: Ok Terry lets see how terrible you are, come down my gym on Sunday and we'll se how big your mouth is after that.

If you realy wanna come and feel my muscles simpsons I will be down my gym at a kickboxing tournament all day on sunday.

Warwick Rd, (opposite Zorbas), Birmingham.

I will be there all day.

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 09 Dec 2006, 17:03

TerribleTerry wrote:
SIMPSONS wrote: Ok Terry lets see how terrible you are, come down my gym on Sunday and we'll se how big your mouth is after that.
If you realy wanna come and feel my muscles simpsons I will be down my gym at a kickboxing tournament all day on sunday.

Warwick Rd, (opposite Zorbas), Birmingham.

I will be there all day.

You will notice Simpsons as the one in the Pink Gimp Suit with an apple in his mouth and pole up his arse.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 10 Dec 2006, 10:36

stujones wrote:
silkov wrote:Roy Jones is one who I think got up to mo good and his sudden loss of form is very mysterious....
The guy is 37! Not mysterious, Hamed's reflexes were gone at 27.

I've never seen someone lose their reflexes and speed and chin overnight like Jones did... usually fighters reflexes fade away rather than disapear overnight.... there was definately something unnatural about Jones sudden loss of ability...

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 10 Dec 2006, 11:45

A slowing Roy just got knocked out then lost all confidence in himself, thats what happened. He used to fight with supreme confidence.

el_grande_mauro_mina · Post by **el_grande_mauro_mina** » 10 Dec 2006, 12:09

SIMPSONS wrote:
Boxingmad wrote:SIMPSONS - My back in covered in spots and I have never taken steroids in my life. Come round here and say that, fuckface and i'll rip your effing bollox off.

U sayin I'm a drugtaker? Coz it sounds that way to me. I've got serious acne problems on my back and some little jumped-up pudendum assumes it's due to steriods.

Get a life pudendum.
U can't knock the skin off a rice pudding so you won't be ripping anything mate.

Before i go on say exactly who u are.

Simpsons... you are a wanker!

I gave you my real address and you said you wer going to come down to Cardiff 'on business' and sort me out. If the offer is still on I still live at the same address. The one you got pm'ed 35 times. The one that got verified off the people who had sent me boxing DVDs that it was where I lived and thus genuine.

I don't want to fight you simpsons, but if you come to my house to beat me up for something I have said on a forum you are in for a nasty shock when I open that door so if the offer is open come and do it. If you don't want to know then STFU.

Just don't talk about a thousand pound side bets or meet ups in the
car parks of various midlands moteorways... no one is hiding from you