Eliminate the draw

kick asner · Post by **kick asner** » 15 Dec 2006, 18:18

Their was a fight that NBC aired back in the eighties where if the fight was ruled a draw they would keep boxing untill it was decided. Forget who it was between. That is the only time I have seen this rule so I don't know if it has been tried since. I wonder why it has never caught on because I think it would be a good rule. I never liked to see a draw in anything.

AndreWardFan2006 · Post by **AndreWardFan2006** » 16 Dec 2006, 10:56

Doesn't K-1 fighting do that? I've seen it happen in some tournament that was even so they made the two fight another round.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 16 Dec 2006, 11:23

That was Doug DeWitt and Tony Thornton. where they went to a 13th round.

AndreWardFan2006 · Post by **AndreWardFan2006** » 16 Dec 2006, 11:34

That's incredible, I couldn't imagine the exhaustion they must have suffered.

kick asner · Post by **kick asner** » 16 Dec 2006, 14:38

AndreWardFan2006 wrote:That's incredible, I couldn't imagine the exhaustion they must have suffered.

Especially if you are only plannig for 12 rounds. You figure it's a close fight so you have to go all out in the 12th only to find out you have another round to go. Usually though it takes time to tally the score cards so you figure to get a break. That would make for an exciting overtime round because you figure now it's do or die, you would have to pull out all the stops and give it your all. This seems like it would be a good thing for boxing if they made it a permament rule.

el tigre del sur · Post by **el tigre del sur** » 17 Dec 2006, 09:53

Here's an idea to eliminate any draws.

The referee always scores a bout and if a draw eventuates between the judges then the deciding vote goes to the referee. Of course if the referee scores a draw then perhaps a draw is the fairest outcome.

Referee's used to score bouts in the old days and I always thought he would make the best judge seeing as he was closest to the action.

el tigre del sur · Post by **el tigre del sur** » 18 Dec 2006, 11:25

Decagon wrote:Most referees aren't competent enough to do both jobs. Anyway, what's the point in eliminating draws? Some of the best fights of all time have been even at the end of the fight. I sure as hell would've rather seen a draw at the end of Barrera-Morales I than Morales getting the decision.

I tend to agree with you about referees. I also don't really have a problem with draws myself - I was just offering up a possible solution to eliminating them.

Scoring fights remains one of the biggest problems with boxing today.

kick asner · Post by **kick asner** » 18 Dec 2006, 11:34

Decagon wrote:
el tigre del sur wrote:Here's an idea to eliminate any draws.

The referee always scores a bout and if a draw eventuates between the judges then the deciding vote goes to the referee. Of course if the referee scores a draw then perhaps a draw is the fairest outcome.

Referee's used to score bouts in the old days and I always thought he would make the best judge seeing as he was closest to the action.
Most referees aren't competent enough to do both jobs. Anyway, what's the point in eliminating draws? Some of the best fights of all time have been even at the end of the fight. I sure as hell would've rather seen a draw at the end of Barrera-Morales I than Morales getting the decision.

For me it's just that I don't like them. I was a highschool wrestler, the rule has changed now but back then unless it was a tounament you could have a draw. Through my four years I had one draw and it felt just like a loss. Left a very bitter taste. Would much rather have settled it. I like the idea of going an extra round or two rather than bringing in an extra judge. I supose it boils down to wheather you like the draw or not. I just never have.

Ambling Alp · Post by **Ambling Alp** » 18 Dec 2006, 13:17

You could have an overtime round. The question would be if you wipe the slates clean form the previous rounds.
For example, if judge A has the fight score 116-112 for one guy, he would probably have the fight scored for that guy even if he thought he lost the overtime round.

I would be in favor of wiping the previous rounds clean and scoring the overtime rounds completely seperate.

An overtime round could add some excitement to the sport. The overtime round would probably be an exciting round because both guys would know they would have to win it.

I believe it was either the NABF or USBA that used to have overtime rounds in their "title" fights.